hi,
my name is vaqas.yesterday i had an argument with a friend about music .he said that music is allowed in islam.I replied that
its not true for many reasons.
well the first basic reason is that people hear to music they start reacting with it like for example if a person likes a perticular music he starts singing that tone and starts dancing with it,which usually distracts his consentration while he is doing his work e.t.c.
Can anyone give me some suggestions?
its not allowed in Islam
already been discussed several times.
nope.. NOT allowed
Howzzaaaaaaaaat !!!
Muzic is a kalima of DAJAJ, thats haram in islam,
Also some people read Quran like "gun guna ke" thats also haram
but I have heared that in some situation like wedding or other thing we can play "daff" dunno what is called in english sorry....
This is a scholar’s response to a question…
For your convenience the article has provided below the link…
http://www.understanding-islam.com/rs/s-018.htm
Another response on the ame subject is here…
http://www.understanding-islam.com/rs/s-079.htm
Question
Are songs and musical instruments allowed in Islam? If not, what’s the reason?
Reply
Songs or music per se are not prohibited in Islam. It has been reported that the Prophet (pbuh) stopped Abu Bakr (ra) when he tried to stop girls from singing and playing a tambourine, on a day of celebration. The Prophet (pbuh) told Abu Bakr (ra) to let the girls celebrate and enjoy. On the other hand, the Prophet (pbuh) is also reported to have condemned the singers and musicians. If seen in the proper context, these two directives of the Prophet (pbuh) are not contradictory.
History tells us that the Arabs were very fond of holding musical gatherings where they used to drink alcohol and their slave girls used to sing and dance for them. Such gatherings obviously had a bad effect on the morals of the audience. It was because of this reason that the Prophet (pbuh), whose basic message was to remind the people of the day when they shall face their Creator and shall be made to answer for all their deeds, condemned such gatherings. On the other hand, where music and singing were just an occasional show of the festive spirit of the people, they were not disallowed by the Prophet (pbuh).
On the basis of the above explanation, it may be said that any activity which has a bad effect on the morals of a person must be refrained from. It was actually because of this reason that the Prophet (pbuh) condemned such gatherings and the activities that were commonly held there. Therefore, listening to songs and music that do not negatively effect the morals of a person, are not disallowed in Islam.
My dear brother, Islam does not prohibit any entertainment as long as it does not have a bad effect on the desired ethical and moral standards of the individuals. Man, it must be remembered, is being tested in the life of this world. Only those individuals who try to cleanse their souls from all sin shall succeed in the ultimate life. The process and method of cleansing our souls is to fill our hearts and souls with the remembrance of our Creator and our Lord. A person who has fully understood this fact cannot let any entertainment take hold of him to the extent that it makes him negligent and unmindful of his Lord and Creator. Music and all other entertainments are not disallowed in Islam, but a true Muslim never lets any of these activities make him unmindful of his duties towards his Lord as well as his fellow human beings.
The Learner
I hope this helps…
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thanks MR PARTYPOOPER, this might help me allot.well you have editted in the reply that islam allows music but only such kind which wont effect our minds (-ve)vely.but the music which includes abusive languages ,well is it allowed or not?
Maybe those who rush to give opinions on topics such as this should research them properly, then display the evidence as partypooper has.
Not just say "yes it is" or "no it isnt". This just shows their ignorance of their religion.
Thanks to Mr PartyPooper a lot of misconceptions that we guys held about music is gone. I have also heard the hadeeth about out Prophet(pbuh) not stopping the people from celebrating music. If it was forbidden he would have stopped it.
You question about music containing bad language such as in rap and hip hop music- I think that can be considered haram, since Islam does not allow anything evil or negative.
Sorry viky… I gave the wrong link in the post…
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I have now included the original link now…
The other link was another response on the same subject by the same scholar… it is included for completeness.
Viky, your question is, I think, answered by the article… simply an extension of the response.
Mariah and Shakir75, thanx ppl…
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so i suppose metal is too shakir. wouldnt the responsibility of bringing up the child mean anything???? the parents are also responsible for showing whts right and wrong to the sibling eh?
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Originally posted by Shakir75:
*Thanks to Mr PartyPooper a lot of misconceptions that we guys held about music is gone. I have also heard the hadeeth about out Prophet(pbuh) not stopping the people from celebrating music. If it was forbidden he would have stopped it.
You question about music containing bad language such as in rap and hip hop music- I think that can be considered haram, since Islam does not allow anything evil or negative. *
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[This message has been edited by usmansalim (edited November 08, 2000).]
You are right. Parents are ofcourse responsible for teaching their kids, what is right and what is not, but that's not the issue here. We are not talking about parent's resposibilities.
If metal contains vulgar or abusive language, then yes it would not be allowed. I know that not all metal bands are like that.
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The reason the responses were yes music is haram is because Prophet Muhammad said that in a Hadith. The Hadith is as clear, and has no negations.
However, Madih (or Na^t, Anasheed, Islamic Chants) Using the tamberine or the drum is absolutely not forbiden, in fact it’s very beneficial to remind Muslims about the word of Allah.
If you want to listen to Islamic Media, the best website to visit is the Muslim Community Radio:
www.2mcr.com
It has the best praises of Allah and Rasulullah.
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Sherazz sir,
I think Mariah was saying that you should not have to wait for a person’s permission to provide proof. The proof should be given anyway… unless of course everybody knows the proof already. But in this case the person who asked about this issue didn’t know - thats why they asked in the first place!
This is a religous forum which many people come to visit and therefore it is always a good idea to provide proof and sources to back up what you are saying. In fact, the reason why there are so many disagreements in this forum is because people are not prepared to supply the proof in the first instance.
Furthermore, there is no question of judging your beliefs so fast. You have been long enough on this forum for people to understand that you have a great deal of knowledge on Islam. What Mariah was saying was that giving closed “yes” and “no” answers simply gives the wrong idea of yourself and is not fair on other people who want to understand why the Islamic injunction is so…
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Sorry to bore you like this…
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Originally posted by Mariah:
**Maybe those who rush to give opinions on topics such as this should research them properly, then display the evidence as partypooper has.
Not just say "yes it is" or "no it isnt". This just shows their ignorance of their religion.
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Hi Mariah
I dont think that I really have to do any research to find out if its allowed or not. But for me to do my work in office, I need two things:
1) Coffee
2) Music (FM 100)
take care
bye
Mr. Partypooper u are exactly right sir..but i think mariah is still pissed off from the last time, thats why she was picking on me
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i always try to give proofs, if occasionally i get lazy doesnt mean people can make such conclusions
Sheraz,could u read this explanation& tell me is this proof enough that even if we knew it was hram ,like nonpurdah in women,b/c of living in non muslim country ,how can you stop music filtering through to your ear in the eleveter,restaurants,cars,etc.??
Assalam au alikum wa rahmatulahi wa baraakatuhu,
I came accross this. It shows how arabic words have been mistranslated to
mean ‘music’ and ‘singing’ when in fact they mean something completely
different.
And may Allah the Almighty have mercy and guide us all, ameen.
From : http://www.mostmerciful.com/editing.htm
“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to
mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the
Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur’an) by way of mockery. For such
there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell fire)”.
[Surah Luqman (31) : 6]
The ARABIC phrase translated by the Editors as “idle tales” is “lahw
al-Hadeethi”, please see the Arabic text above.
In the Dictionary and Glossary of the Qur’an the word “lahw” is translated
as “ludicrous (ridiculous)” and the word “al-Hadeethi” is translated as “the
narrative, the story, the tale, the event, the discourse, the saying, etc.”
In the literal sense the Verse tells us not to purchase (patronize)
“ludicrous (ridiculous) Hadeeths” and mislead men from the Path of Allah,
without knowledge of the real facts.
Note: It is a normal practice with the majority of the translators to leave
the commonly used proper nouns such as; “Allah”, “Rasul”, “Nabi”, “Qur’an”,
“Hajj” and so forth, untranslated. Any attempt to translate such words may
not convey their honestly intended accurate meanings. “Hadeeth” is also one
such word that if left untranslated would convey the intended meaning. To
indicate that the word “Hadeeth” means “music or singing” is leading the
readers away from the truth. I did not find the word “music” or “singing”
mentioned in the Arabic Dictionary.
this is a controversial issue and i wish i had more time to talk about it. As far as i understand, music and singing are forbidden. However,there are certain occasions, when we're praising Allah or emphasizing a moral issue, when its ok....the Arabs used to chant and beat the duff (the instance where Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) went to Medina and the crowd sang to welcome him)
A good example, i think, would be Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens)He gave up the music business since its obviously haram (drugs, drinking, fornication) He now makes music for various causes...and mind you, the only musical instrument used in his albums is the duff/drum....and the human voice, ofcourse, is primary.
Hello friends !
i am here for the very first time so you might not know me by now. I just stopped to check this topic while passing by 'cause it has been on my mind for a very long time. no doubt that Partypooper analysed the whole problem in a great manner but i am still not satisfied. I just want to ask one question.
how can one know that a kind of music could have bad effect on him? furthermore if it depends upon its type then which type is harmful and which is considered to be harmless? I don't think that one could classify the music in this way. Another point of confusion is that how could we know the truth of a hadith? that it has had no ammendments travelling from person to person over the ages?
I would like to thank all the poeple who shared their knowledge with me, those also who tried to convey their beliefs to others without giving any reasons. I hope they would try to do a little better next time.
Bye :)