Is Khilafah really an alternative?

Is Khilafah really an alternative

Since Musharraf came to power there has been an increase in propaganda against Islam. Some of this has been subtle and some less so. One of the claims has been that the implementation of shariah is impractical. For example, at the time of the ‘riba judgement’ Pakistan’s government argued that the prohibition of interest was “not practical or feasible and if attempted would pose a high risk to the economic stability and security of Pakistan”. The view that Islam is inapplicable is not a new one; rather the enemies of Allah have always said this. For example the Quraysh would mock the prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) by saying, “Here is the man who wants to topple the Caesar”.

We have a right to ask what exactly do our leaders think is practical. For example, on August 24 it was revealed that Pakistan is actually more indebted than it has ever been. The claims by Shaukat Aziz that debt has decreased are actually untrue because accounts have simply been moved to local banks. This allows the State Bank of Pakistan to deny liability while the debt remains and is increasing dramatically. The fact is that the ordinary people of Pakistan have already paid back over 12 dollars for every dollar borrowed. These debts, with their harsh conditions, have caused immense suffering with no end in sight. In the west also, due to interest-based loans, hardly anyone owns anything.

Now there is a drive to ‘modernise’ our view towards women. This, by changing the censorship laws and encouraging the idea that there is no difference between the sexes. We have seen how the West views women and its terrible effects. In the UK alone 1 in 20 women have been raped. Also, there has been a tremendous push to ‘improve’ our education system. With this in mind the State Department Spokesman, Richard Boucher, announced American support for “moving Pakistan toward a more modern and moderate course where education plays a very key role.” Indeed, on August 9, America’s US Agency for International Development (USAID) pledged $100 million to support reforms in Pakistan’s education sector over the next five years. Their stated objectives are to indoctrinate the Muslim youth with Western culture and values. All this is what Musharraf thinks is practical..

The capitalist system is based upon taking from the poor to give to the rich. Under Islam, the wealth is circulated and interest, hoarding and monopoly are prohibited. There are no oppressive taxes like GST (General Sales Tax) and foreign companies are not allowed to control local resources. Under Islam, the woman is viewed with honour and has rights and responsibilities according to her nature as does the man. These are defined by shar’iah and not by the minds of men. Our education system is based upon generating strong Islamic personalities with the knowledge they need to help themselves and their ummah. This is backed up by infrastructure to give productive employment to our people instead of either becoming unemployed or teaching our youth skills that they will never use. Furthermore, our failure is not just an issue of bad policy. Rather, the Western systems are themselves unable to solve man’s problems. This is why, in their countries, we see progress only in the technological spheres but not in any other area of life.

Also, no system can work unless it belongs to the people. The system in Pakistan has nothing to do with the people’s history, values and aspirations. Rather, it is purely from the West and hence they feel no attachment to it. Instead we have the implementation of a foreign system for the benefit of our enemies. Only under Khilafah can the Muslims progress because it is the only system that cares for them. Thus, this is not a question of alternatives - Khilafah is all we have.

Our noble prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) and his companions were never defeated by circumstances. Rather, Islam defined for them what was possible and they worked to achieve it. They knew that the victory would come because Allah does not give a duty that cannot be achieved. And indeed the victory did come and Islam ruled for over 1000 years proving, if proof were needed, that there is nothing more ‘practical’ than the rules of the Creator. Currently, we are in exactly the same position that the prophet and Sahabah were faced with in Makkah. The only difference is that now we have a massive population and most of the earth’s resources are in our lands.

Those who say Khilafah cannot return deny the signs of change. The power in any state is with the people and as the ummah becomes increasingly aware of her potential and her goal, it is only a matter of time before she resumes her role as the leading nation on earth. Our people are sick of the corrupt kufr systems and they love Islam. All that is required is for the sincere leadership to meet with the people of nussrah and establish a state. This ummah will not rebel against the Khalifah and as for the kuffar who currently dominate us, they are only a temporary hindrance. No external power can control a people indefinitely and Allah is able to change all things.

It is only the unaware who do not expect the return of the Islamic state and the kuffar are not unaware. Think tanks and institutions monitor the world and they sense a great rise in the want for Islam and a drive for change. No one can miss the protests all over the Islamic land and they are increasing in frequency, intensity and focus. Why do the Americans attack those who call for ‘a stone age Caliphate?’ It is for the same reason that the Pentagon has a library full of Islamic books and experts informing the President which verses of the Qur’an to quote in order to back his Islamic friendly image. This is why the prisons throughout the Islamic land have become full of pious people and the Muslims are suffering wherever they are. The kuffar know what Islam is and are desperate to prevent its return.

However, their efforts will work against them; the more they push us the more we rise. The shocks that this ummah is suffering are forcing her to think and come to the inevitable conclusion that we need a system, a leader to take care of us as opposed to the interests of the kuffar. Though our Ummah is suffering immense hardship it is also increasing in it’s hatred for the West and the agent rulers who want only to destroy us and keep us away from our deen. This ummah is coming to know what the non-Muslims knew all along; unity is a political idea and for the Muslims, that means Khilafah.

It is not an exaggeration to say that there is currently a battle going on to remove all traces of our deen. The kuffar, headed by America, have realised the threat Islam poses since the demise of Communism and they wish to ensure that we can never arise to bring justice again to the world. The earth is screaming. It is as if the Muslims are living in a jungle where the strong devour the weak and there is no security or tranquillity anywhere. All with eyes to see and hearts to feel can sense the depths to which humanity has sunk.

Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) mentioned:

“Verily, we created man in the best stature. Then we reduced him to the lowest of the low. Except those who believe and do righteous deeds. They shall have a reward without end.” (TMQ 95:4-6)

When we realise the seriousness of the situation and that the purpose of our lives is only to worship our Lord and to make His word the highest, who amongst us would leave the duty to struggle in Allah’s path? Who amongst us would not work to re-establish Khilafah?

We do need a khalifah for all Muslims, and the only one is going to be Al-Mahdiy al-Muntathar. He will be the khalifa for all Muslims.

And that's when the world .. changes!

Absolutely Correct!! :)

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Re: Is Khilafah really an alternative?

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*Originally posted by clubber lang: *
Is Khilafah really an alternative

Since Musharraf came to power there has been an increase in propaganda against Islam. Some of this has been subtle and some less so. One of the claims has been that the implementation of shariah is impractical. For example, at the time of the ‘riba judgement’ Pakistan’s government argued that the prohibition of interest was “not practical or feasible and if attempted would pose a high risk to the economic stability and security of Pakistan”.

** The riba judgement never said Shria was impractical.. Judgement actually stated : "there were at least three kinds of Riba, and with the exception of one form, the remaining two were undesirable but not prohibited. The three forms of Riba were Riba Uddain (debt); Ribaul Qarz (Loan) and Ribaul Fazal, the counsel said and added that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) prohibited Riba Uddain through a decree but did not enforce it on the two forms which were declared undesirable but not haram... Holy Quran prohibited only such Riba which included the element of exploitation.... incorrect meanings of the Hadith had changed the whole complexion of the judgement "
So people who just take word riba and try to say Islam forbids all kinds of riba are not well learned in Islamic jurispudence and try to create confusion in society.. how can property value be static .. just picking things from Prophet Muhammad's time without context will deliver no good.. riba that have explotation element was haram.. we have no Ijtihad for centuries about new economic system of changing times.. what about global economy..is it haram too? smuggling? quota system in imports and exports? **

We have a right to ask what exactly do our leaders think is practical. For example, on August 24 it was revealed that Pakistan is actually more indebted than it has ever been. The claims by Shaukat Aziz that debt has decreased are actually untrue because accounts have simply been moved to local banks. This allows the State Bank of Pakistan to deny liability while the debt remains and is increasing dramatically. The fact is that the ordinary people of Pakistan have already paid back over 12 dollars for every dollar borrowed. These debts, with their harsh conditions, have caused immense suffering with no end in sight. In the west also, due to interest-based loans, hardly anyone owns anything.

** Now thats a valid question..we as muslims are debted and borrow money for our survival and are not ashamed at all but celebrate with pomp with every new loan making sure that our future generations are more buried in loans! **

Now there is a drive to ‘modernise’ our view towards women. This, by changing the censorship laws and encouraging the idea that there is no difference between the sexes. We have seen how the West views women and its terrible effects.

** We have also witnessed terrible effects caused by the idiots Talibans! Islam teaches us the middle and rational path..Islam makes it mandatory for every man and woman in Islam to acquire both religious and wordly knowledge.. without knowing both one cant have knowlwdge of Islam . Best example can be found in Malaysia where almost all muslim woman wear hijabs but there is also hundred percent literacy in women and they work side by side withmen.. I been there few times and was amazed how pious that society is with total respect for minorities unlikes what is happening in Pakistan where religious fanatics are killing non-muslims.. In ur article there is no mention of any rights of minorities at all! **

Also, no system can work unless it belongs to the people. The system in Pakistan has nothing to do with the people’s history, values and aspirations. Rather, it is purely from the West and hence they feel no attachment to it. Instead we have the implementation of a foreign system for the benefit of our enemies. Only under Khilafah can the Muslims progress because it is the only system that cares for them. Thus, this is not a question of alternatives - Khilafah is all we have.

** I guess ur suggesting Khalifa as head of state here.. Islam gives guidlines for a leader but absolutely no fixed or rigid structure..reason is simple..Islam had to spread all over the world where people live in tribes, communes, territories and regions. Even in times of first four Caliphs each had an entirely different form of Government.. as needs and requirements arose different sections of establishment were created.. a leader call it caliphs should have minimum guidelines as established by Islam .. and the method of choosing the person can vary and woman can vote too! Khalifa as mentioned in this article seems someone coming down from mountain or clouds! **

And indeed the victory did come and Islam ruled for over 1000 years proving, if proof were needed, that there is nothing more ‘practical’ than the rules of the Creator.

** Not all that rule was ideal one.. with some magneficient mulim rulers there were despotic kings and tyrant rulers who though got decrees and sanctions from greedy mullahs.. were those kings were Khalifas! **

Those who say Khilafah cannot return deny the signs of change. The power in any state is with the people and as the ummah becomes increasingly aware of her potential and her goal, it is only a matter of time before she resumes her role as the leading nation on earth.

** our goal should be Allah's ibadat and social justice as told by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) than waiting for some Khalifa! **

Though our Ummah is suffering immense hardship it is also increasing in it's hatred for the West and the agent rulers who want only to destroy us and keep us away from our deen. This ummah is coming to know what the non-Muslims knew all along; unity is a political idea and for the Muslims, that means Khilafah.

** No religion in the world including Islam teaches hatred! Why should we hate west? there are millions of muslims who are westerners.. many western countries have populations that are increasingly becoming muslims.. this preaching of blind hate is causing great disservice to Islam ..wheres a lot of non-muslims were leaning towards Islam due to its peace and equality message now how can we tell peopel about Islam before telling them we hate west and their population! **

When we realise the seriousness of the situation and that the purpose of our lives is only to worship our Lord and to make His word the highest, who amongst us would leave the duty to struggle in Allah’s path? Who amongst us would not work to re-establish Khilafah?

** and with re-establishing so-called Khalifa all our troubles would be solved? it would only make another kingdom.. I would first see that all poor are fed and social justice prevail that see anybody becoming so-called Khalifa! I would see Islam taking hold in Pakistan the day poor hungry people living in slums just outside the door of our marble and gold plated mosques that are air-conditiones invite them to come in for shelter! **

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Who is planning to be the next khalifah? Osama?

Fancy speeches are all very well but reality needs to be taken into account. If Khilafah is capable of doing so much better then those who call for it should get on with it and show us how it's done instead of picking faults with everyone else.

ok, while you are busy inviting though, the world has to get on with real life. Do you think that the Khilafah would ever have got round to inventing a tv for example?

so in this system of yours, will we have a Shiite Khalifa?? and what if he legislates slandering some companions from the pulpit?? Not unlikely cuz the non-Shiite Khilafa did that once....

Groups like HT almouhaajriroun who call for a khalifa are like those people who try to build the roof of a house first, and then the foundations.

Without a nation of pious muslims, there will never be a Khalifah. We all know that Allah will never change the condition of a nation until the nations changes itself.

Look at Afghanistan, the only reason the Khalifah was destroyed was that the people themselves shaved off their beards, and abandoned the hijab etc as soon as the Taliban left. If they were upon true iman, then I am sure that we would still have a Khalifah there.

Focus your energies on education muslims, bring them upon the Qur'an and sunnah, and then go and get yourself a khalifah.

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Groups like HT almouhaajriroun who call for a khalifa are like those people who try to build the roof of a house first, and then the foundations.

Without a nation of pious muslims, there will never be a Khalifah. We all know that Allah will never change the condition of a nation until the nations changes itself.

Look at Afghanistan, the only reason the Khalifah was destroyed was that the people themselves shaved off their beards, and abandoned the hijab etc as soon as the Taliban left. If they were upon true iman, then I am sure that we would still have a Khalifah there.

Focus your energies on education muslims, bring them upon the Qur'an and sunnah, and then go and get yourself a khalifah.
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Salaam Alikum

Aplha1, intresting.

But why have the muslims gone away from islam?

The reason why muslims are drifting away from islam, is that they are not in their natural environment. The ideas and thoughts that make up society's norms and culture are alien to islam and not from islam (i.e concepts such as nationlism, patriotisim, democarcy, freedoms, integration, the list is endless).

Point is that these corrupt concepts are pushed by the system they live under, and naturally whatever the society holds as beliefs the individuals will hold the same beliefs. What some people misudnerstand is that society is not just a group of individual but rather consists group of individuals who have common thoughts and emotions, who are binded under a specfic system. E.G in the West, groups of individuals are agreed upon the ideas of freedom and live under a specfic system(captilism).

Now today the muslims are like a fish out its environment, it's dying and unless you take it back to its natural envirnoment it will carry on suffering.

Conclusion is that society is not just composed of individuals, so hence to change society you need to change the public opinion for islam and seek the material support(nusrah) to establish these ideas upon society(i.e the Khilafah).

Also human beings are not angel so they will never be perfect rather we are human's who should strive to seek perfection. Last point if the Muhammed(saw) sat around and just concentrated on individauls then he Muhammed(saw) would have never migrated to medina and establish Islam.

And finally Afgahinstan was not a Khilafah.

You missed the most important point. Would the Khilafah have led to the invention of tv's or not?

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You missed the most important point. Would the Khilafah have led to the invention of tv's or not?
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Mr X i suggest you read the history books agian, because even the West acknowledge the fact that it was the muslims who weere masters of scienctific and techonolgy discoveries and inventions.

No doubt the impending Khilafah will invest in tech and science and IshaAllah will be the leading nation once agian in all aspects of life.

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*Originally posted by clubber lang: *

Mr X i suggest you read the history books agian, because even the West acknowledge the fact that it was the muslims who weere masters of scienctific and techonolgy discoveries and inventions.

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.. they were masters but what happened next! they tried to stop the clock by eliminating ijtihad! hating other civilizations and instead of praeching love for all mankind starting thinking themselves far superior than people of other faiths .. those knowledge was made mandatory by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) for every man and woman but myopic view nad fear of knowledge led to our decline..so its time to seek knowledge both wordly and religious than singing praises of the past only..

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*Originally posted by clubber lang: *

No doubt the impending Khilafah will invest in tech and science and IshaAllah will be the leading nation once agian in all aspects of life.
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Well what would motivate them to invest in tv's, cd players and other such luxury items?

have you given that any thought?

Godfather, you think the khalifah will love your nickname? Hypocrisy...

To all those debating with these fundos, since the khalifah will never be a reality, and no matter how much these guys go 'the khalifah will be a PHD in electroncs engineering and will spearhead modern education', whats the point in discussing something that will never happen?

This khalifah thing reminds me of Taliban courts where during any judicial proceedings they tried to create entire sorroundings of old khalifah times by carrying actual rusted swords and daggers :D They were thinking shariat meant actual that time and not in essence.. that was the reason eduvcation was srtressed so much by Holy Prophet (PBUH) so that these kinds of jahaliat could be get rid off! We should derive our source from Quran and sunnah but apply it by ijmah and ijtihad to all new problems and keep in mind basic reason for shariat : betterment of society and social justice.

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*Originally posted by clubber lang: *

The reason why muslims are drifting away from islam, is that they are not in their natural environment. The ideas and thoughts that make up society's norms and culture are alien to islam and not from islam (i.e concepts such as nationlism, patriotisim, democarcy, freedoms, integration, the list is endless).

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I could think of stronger words but with respect I'll just say that this is plain nonsense ! Yes societal pressures do count but there is no substitute for individual accountability. Nobody can claim to be a better Muslim by virtue of just living in an Islamic country or the 'natural environment'. There are plenty of good Muslims in the West doing a tremendous and difficult job of educating people (muslim and non-muslim) of the virtues of Islam. Unfortunately , it seems to be the same people who are obsessed with 'Khalifa' that do the name of Islam the most damage. They sit on a platform of 'anything Western is anti-Islamic'. CL's above statement is typical, i.e rubbish all so called 'western' concepts. Actually, I would argue that the concepts of nationalism, patriotism, democracy, freedoms, integration...etc are in fact congruent with Islam and are not necessarily of 'western' origin.

Somebody metioned Malaysia in an earlier post and I agree - it has all of the above characteristics and is a great model for a Muslim state. Pakistan should hire Mohathir for ten years when he resigns his post next year !

This is really funny, muslims are BARKING on about the need for a muslim state when the fundementals are not in place.

Imam Hamza has a brilliant talk on this issue, I ask you brothers and sisters to go and hear what this learned man is saying. You cannot have an Islamic state until you have an Islamic state of mind across the majority of the muslim ummah, this must be coupled with a comparatively similar economic system and currencey (look at Europe, it is installing all the criteria for it to later unite as a federal Super-state) and a unified foreign and social policy. This empty talk of "a khalifa" is stupid, you show your ignorance of the realities in the muslim mind and the muslim nations. failing to realize tha the small issues must be taen care of first is one of the great diseases of the muslims at this time.

Khalifat is the ultimate aim for the ummah but we are a long way of tjis and to suggest it now is insanity. The muslim world is moving closer and closer to the complete submission to the dajjalic world system and yet you jesters mention Khalifa. There is no one here to take note. get out of this idealic world and into the reality facing us.

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I could think of stronger words but with respect I'll just say that this is plain nonsense ! Yes societal pressures do count but there is no substitute for individual accountability. Nobody can claim to be a better Muslim by virtue of just living in an Islamic country or the 'natural environment'. There are plenty of good Muslims in the West doing a tremendous and difficult job of educating people (muslim and non-muslim) of the virtues of Islam. Unfortunately , it seems to be the same people who are obsessed with 'Khalifa' that do the name of Islam the most damage. They sit on a platform of 'anything Western is anti-Islamic'. CL's above statement is typical, i.e rubbish all so called 'western' concepts. Actually, I would argue that the concepts of nationalism, patriotism, democracy, freedoms, integration...etc are in fact congruent with Islam and are not necessarily of 'western' origin.

Somebody metioned Malaysia in an earlier post and I agree - it has all of the above characteristics and is a great model for a Muslim state. Pakistan should hire Mohathir for ten years when he resigns his post next year !
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Salaam Alikum

Yes i agree there is no subsitute for individual accounabilty, my post was in reference to someone asking why are muslims not adhering to islam. Some people generalise the whole problem and say the muslims don't adhere to the quran and sunnah(which in reality is ambigous and undefined). Naturally the next question to this concept is, WHY muslims don't adhere to the quran and sunnah? and the reason for that is all to clear to see (see my last post).

No one is saying that a muslim would be a good muslim by simple living in a Islamic state and no doubt there are thousands and thousands of good muslims living in the West, who are showing Islam as a correct and alternative ideology to Capitalism.

Malaysia, as far as i know, does not protect the honour and diginty of muslims who are being murdered,raped,tortured,arrested by the enemies of islam in Afghanistan,Palestine,Checyna,Kashmir, Uzbekistan. So HOW can that be a global state for all muslims to follow?

One of the obligations of the Khilafah or infact any state is to look after the intrests of its citizen, so hence Malaysia should protect (or at least even tryto protect) the honour of muslims in the islamic lands.

As for ideas such as nationlism, etc these clearly contradict islam and go against islam. One of the evidence for this is:

"the muslims ummah are one, the land is one and their peace is one"

As for saying that a group working for Khilafah is wrong, then i suggest the following transcript delivered before a second state security court in Adanah .

As for the second charge that is the labelling of Hizb ut-Tahrir as a terrorist organization, Hizb ut-Tahrir is definitely not a terrorist organization! It is rather a political party whose ideology is Islam.

He (subhana wa ta’ala) said

‘Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining the good and forbidding the evil. And it is they who are successful.’ [3:104]. In response to this noble ayah, Hizb ut-Tahrir was founded as a political party. Hizb ut-Tahrir has followed the path of the Messenger (sallalahu alaihi wa sallam) step by step in accordance with the saying of Allah:

’Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad sallalahu alaihi wa sallam) you have a good example to follow.’[33:21]

The aim of Hizb ut-Tahrir is to resume the Islamic way of life by establishing the Righteous Khilafah via the intellectual and political struggle. Ever since its establishment and to this day, Hizb ut-Tahrir has not undertaken any actions of violence. This is not because it fears the regimes that stand in its way, but because the Messenger of Allah (sallalahu alaihi wa sallam) did not undertake any actions of violence before the establishment of the State.

Members of the court,

Hizb ut-Tahrir is an Islamic movement that builds its viewpoint on Islam and adheres to the rules of Islam. If you look at the world around you, you will not find a single place ruled by Islam. In order to implement completely the orders and prohibitions of Allah, it is stipulated that there be a Khilafah state and the evidences for this are many. For example He (subhana wa ta’ala) said:

‘And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the Kaafirun (disbelievers).’ [5:44] ‘And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the Zaalimun (unjust, oppressors).’ [5:45] ‘And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the Faasiqun (transgressors).’ [5:47]

In these three ayahs Allah (subhana wa ta’ala) describes to Muhammad (sallalahu alaihi wa sallam) those who do not rule by what Allah has revealed as Kaafirun (disbelievers), Zaalimun (wrongdoers) and faasiqun (transgressors).

All of this unambiguously and definitely shows that it is obligatory on the Muslims as individuals, groups and states to apply the rules of Allah (subhana wa ta’ala) completely according to the manner Allah has obliged without any deficiency, delay, postponement or gradualism. There is no excuse for any individual, group or state not to apply these rules.