Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Basing it on puberty indicates that marriage is nothing more than a sexual commitment.
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That would explain the desire for 4 wives.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Good point…what’s the difference? Rhetorically the same in the sense that the arguments of one can support the other…which is not a function of apologia (my escape clause…what’s other peoples’)?
The moralistic argument is only really underpinned by the belief that God forbids homosexuality. The opponents of child marriage have no such luxury.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
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Except that the prophet mohammad married a child.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Basing it on puberty indicates that marriage is nothing more than a sexual commitment.
On the contrary, I argue that the only shocking thing about child marriages to our contemporary sensibilities IS the sex...
Otherwise, arranged marraige at 15, or 10, or whatever...what's the difference?
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
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Except that the prophet mohammad married a child.
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...except what?
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Well the prophet is infallibile is he not? That being the case shouldn't the example of mohammad be followed and child/adult marriages be accepted/supported or do culture norms rule over the prophet?
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Tell me, if the wives are happy, what is the problem?
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Otherwise, arranged marraige at 15, or 10, or whatever...what's the difference?
I think arranged marriages are wrong for any age if it doesn't take into consideration what the bride wants. That an adult would even want to marry a child is shocking, even if sex didn't enter the equation. How would he know he loved her? Her personality, sense of who she is or what she wants, needs, desires, etc have not even been developed or discovered. How could he know he wanted to spend his life with her? Of course there is no way she would know.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Islam only allows marriage if both people are willing.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
read post no 20
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Whereas he may have married her when she was 9 or so, it does not imply we do the same...Sunnahs that bind are the ones where Muslims are exhorted to do things, we do not simply mimic...otherwise, Muslims would also be marrying older women....and riding on camel back.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
1-You are not as smart as you though you were.
2-people here had already guessed what stunt you were trying to pull.
3-people have already anser you question about prophet with out even asking you.
Now plan some thing else.
May bay you guys need to look at your self.
Why you have work so hard to prove us wrong???
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Then you don't know what the heck arranged marriages are, as often the groom is just as clueless...
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That an adult would even want to marry a child is shocking, even if sex didn't enter the equation.
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Why? Because it doesn't fit into your ideal of what is a legitimate relationship?
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
That's one view while many others except the hadiths that states she was 9.
For argument sake let's say she was 9 when mohammad married her, does that change your preception of adult/child marriages?
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Because the relationship is not based on love. Or consent. Or companionship. Or respect. All of which is what a lifetime partnership should entail.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
Not neccesarily. love; companionship, respect...like most arranged marriages can also come after marriage.
still thats all modern stuff, its ridiculous to use the same bar to judge a whole different era. Marraige was seen in a total different light then it is today.
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And there would nothing wrong with that.
If Muhammad was infallible then his actions should transcend culture and time, should they not?
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
you mean if Islam was universal? IMO it is, as that doesnt solely depend on the sunnah (imitating the action) of the Prophet, because it is not farz (obligatory) for the same reason that it is not applicable everywhere, hence Islam ineffect does transcend all cultures and time.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
If both parties agree to arranged marriage and are old enough to make that decision, then it's up to them. Makes no sense to me, but they are consenting adults. But IMO it is morally wrong to make a child who isn't able to make that decision enter into a lifelong relationship that may develop into a relationship.
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still thats all modern stuff, its ridiculous to use the same bar to judge a whole different era. Marraige was seen in a total different light then it is today.
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I agree.
Re: Is it wrong for a Muslim man to marry a 9 year old in 2006?
The short explanation is that no its not reccommended to be married at 9. I strongly believe that we should try and give our children their childhood years without any sexual innuendo. I see young girls in the west who imitate their mothers with short skirts and skimpy clothes etc. and truly thats sickening. Every child deserves an innocent childhood as long as possible, especially girls who go thru a lot of hardships in life. If we find ourselves at a juncture where for fear of religious persecution someone needs to marry their daughters off at such an early age, like the reference to the Prophet Muhammad (May peace and blessings be upon him) and his marriage to a 9 year old, then Allah will judge our actions as their guardians or parents. But without such extreme situations I think its simply ignorance, especially to think that a comman man like you and me would have the decency and wisdom to treat a 9 year old wife like our Prophet did. Most guys in rural areas in Pakistan who get married to young girls dont even think of waiting a single minute before consumating the marriage and thats ignorance at its peak.