it is true.
wrong things that people emphasize, become an irritation.
share an instance of that, if you like.
best,
Dushwari
it is true.
wrong things that people emphasize, become an irritation.
share an instance of that, if you like.
best,
Dushwari
Re: Is it true?
Your question can only be rationalized with an answer that can satiate the very myth of the word "truth". The word “ wrong” in its entirety is also a word that can’t be seen without the biased view that we acquire genetically from our parents and then nurture plays its part either fortifying our bias or nullifying it altogether.
No truth , but an absolute truth, to some even that is questionable, is truth. we see world with our eyes, and conceive the truth after it has been purified with the bias that we carry, leaving the dust of conflict settled on the bottom of our guilt. What is not true is wrong to us, and we format our arguments, our affinity and our antipathy with that perception in mind. Our rationale is logically inert, does not react or even initiate the desire to listen to other’s point of view because conviction is already built into our brain, we pick the words to utter our truth.
Emphasis on your truth have the stink to irritate me, because I see what I want to see, without jumping into your pond to see the depth of an argument.
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whoa...
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nope, it helps you seek the right ![]()
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intelliphant,
you points are well taken. & your discernment merits the anti-thesis which is offered in the foregoing lines. they by no means are conclusive. you brought the very basic debate of nurture vs. nature or nurture and nature or the former following the later.
exceptions always surmount the ever affirmative adage that
birds of a feather flock together, and that there is more than one truth.
these are tools for justifying the variant strands of truths, that is exactly what they are - truth conceived to take the guise of a real truth and enforce the make belief of being also true.
it is not about right and wrong yet.
it is simply about the presentation of more than one truths. in and of itself, there is a dichotomy in there.
and given that realism, in that, there is no place for myths any longer.
for now, the variant truths have to par up with the real truth.
ever wonder why the real truth, has to be questioned as a non-truth?
as for the admittance of your smelt stink, may i suggest, please sit far away from the mushroom of biases which you yourself attributed to basically everyone.
your argument does not sting, shall i say. it is a statement of your percept, and the cloak of universality which you adorned on that percept, is coming off.
covering something with a generalized statement is not a good argument. it is a weak one. you wil agree that taking case by case issue, makes sense when there is truthfulness in each case's argument/s.
where it is not so, you need a measuring stick to be fair, if all else equal, ideally, in most every situation where the outcomes and the means are harmful, where the outcomes and the means are unfairly obtained and imposed.
makes sense?
for the sake of this conjecture which you shared: 'the word wrong in its entirety is also a word that can't be seen...' is a blanket of a bias.
why did you adopt it like so?
best,
Dushwari
Your question can only be rationalized with an answer that can satiate the very myth of the word "truth". The word “ wrong” in its entirety is also a word that can’t be seen without the biased view that we acquire genetically from our parents and then nurture plays its part either fortifying our bias or nullifying it altogether. No truth , but an absolute truth, to some even that is questionable, is truth. we see world with our eyes, and conceive the truth after it has been purified with the bias that we carry, leaving the dust of conflict settled on the bottom of our guilt. What is not true is wrong to us, and we format our arguments, our affinity and our antipathy with that perception in mind. Our rationale is logically inert, does not react or even initiate the desire to listen to other’s point of view because conviction is already built into our brain, we pick the words to utter our truth. Emphasis on your truth have the stink to irritate me, because I see what I want to see, without jumping into your pond to see the depth of an argument.
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ji, Fraudia bhai, how are you?
Best,
Dushwari
whoa...
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Dushwari,
unfortunately the word “bias” is generally perceived as something very negative, a point of view that is wrapped around mere falsehood and absolute lies, In reality, it provides a very foundation upon which you develop your conviction, and it should not be taken as a tomb of the darkness, where by every truth breathes its last. With that in mind your advice to stay away from the “mushroom of bias” loses its ground, especially when I analyze that the very nature of the argument is not a reflection of an ultimate truth, but an effort to engorge the truth that I presented.
In an endeavor to par up the variants of truth to a real truth, one has to identify the real truth first, and unfortunately the journey to “seek the reality” stops at its first junction of conflict. I am definitely with you on your take about generalization, however the induction of a “fair” yardstick pushed me back to where we started from. whose yardstick, mine or yours or a yardstick that is accepted as a norm, if norm then why not generalize it at the first place, why to hop around a loop or talk in circles.
The accepted norms in our societies do not necessarily represent the reality; it is a common perception of either majority or the might, or a tacit agreement between the two. Most of the time the philosophy of might is to hide rather than reveal the truth, equipped with the weapons of mass deception, might can dictate the lies to be written as ultimate truth in the book of history.
The question remains, whose truth, yours , mine or “the absolute truth”, if absolute then who would explore and unearth it, if you are the one to seek the truth write me the recipe to filter out your own bias, before you reach the "TRUTH".
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holy smokes
intellephant and Dushwari simple english please, too many big words. ![]()
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intelliphant, Kaun, is sharing her or his ideas.
and has teh right to.
i opened the thread, so it is my responsibility to not leave the discussion, without a even and fair closure.
sit back and enjoy the discussion and i would encourage you to participate in it.
best,
Dushwari
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it is a very interesting argument indeed but as i see it dont u guys think that the thread had started on a different topic and is headed in a totally different direction.
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say some more, what do you feel the answer to the original query is?
there are no absolute answers, of course on such a broad topic as truth. but please share yours.
best,
Dushwari
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it is a very interesting argument indeed but as i see it dont u guys think that the thread had started on a different topic and is headed in a totally different direction.
A conclusive argument normally tends to converge towards the epicenter, a reply normally opens up new horizon.
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intelliphant,
your truth is not 'engorged' by me or my thoughts on the thread.
best,
Dushwari
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intelliphant,
your truth is not 'engorged' by me or my thoughts on the thread.
best, Dushwari
it was generalization.....sorry if it sounded like that
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truth... hmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
well how can u justify "wrong" in the first place as somin wrong in ur perspective mite be rite in someone elses.
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kaun, that is the very crux of the deal.
the issue is fairness, in making the perspectives, so transparent, that the real wrong side, can see the real truth.
again, some truths, i wonder if are truths, since there is nothing known about them...
and so, humans makebelief instead of losing their head over verifying the truths.
unearthing, has not ever been easy...
best,
Dushwari
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it was generalization.....sorry if it sounded like that
no need to say sorry, intelliphant.
your discussing points are interesting and i think we do have a good sense of the topic. we need to unravel it, if you like and topic lends itself to that.
best,
Dushwari