ALL Kashmir is ethnically, religiously, linguistically, economically, and geographically linked to Pakistan.
Kashmir may be economically, geographically, and religiously linked to Pakistan, but ethnicity and language are another matter entirely.
It was only Pundit Nehru's 'zidd' to keep his 'janam-bhoomi' in Bharat-Mata
Nehru's "janam-bhoomi" was UP, as was his father's, his grandfather, his great-grandfather's, and so on. The family left Kashmir and settled in India hundreds of years before Partition
I find it hard to believe that your manager mentioned nothing about the decades of sham "democracy" and fixed elections that preceded 1989, not to mention the theft of our promised autonomy after just a few years of Indian rule.
He:That is different case.But Our Culture is same as them(Pakistanis)
Another rather unbelievable statement. Even Kashmiris from backwater villages pride themselves on the uniqueness of our culture, and consider themselves completely culturally distinct from the Mirpuris from across the LoC, let alone the rest of Pakistan.
At the end I asked him that how many Kashmiris he could find in all this 5 lakh Expatriots( We are working in GCC country) in a decent
position in a good company and how many from Kerala(my own state) and I told just Compare it.I told him this is because we gave importance to education.We have many musilm oraganisations in Kerala.Each are trying to set up an school or an hospital or a proffessional college that is why We Kerala Muslims progressed.
Few will argue against the fact that Kerala's Muslims are comparatively better off than their counterparts in the rest of the country. But tell me, if Kerala really is such a wonderful place, why are Muslims so poorly represented in the public sector there? They make up 25% of the population, and hold only 10% of government jobs.
As far as Kashmiri expatriates are concerned, you're right, you won't find very many of us lining up to become maids and construction workers in Kuwait and Abu Dhabi. In the Western world, you'll find plenty of well placed Kashmiris, from CEOs of billion dollar companies to senior officials in the US government.
If they (Kashmiris) do not want India then Khalaas.Who want them?.
Always good to hear. A few years back, most Indian Muslims would just whine about what the Hindus would do to them if Kashmir got its independence.
NB:I like the hospitality of the Kashmir people,but I hate their communalist thinking.
One man's sectarianism is another man's nationalism.
Kashmir may be economically, geographically, and religiously linked to Pakistan, but ethnicity and language are another matter entirely.
There are more people of Kashmiri origin in Pakistan than Bharat.
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Nehru's "janam-bhoomi" was UP, as was his father's, his grandfather, his great-grandfather's, and so on. The family left Kashmir and settled in India hundreds of years before Partition
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Too bad he still considered himself a Kashmiri Pundit and janam-bhoomi of his ancestors Kashmir.
It was this link of Pundit ji with Kashmir which is the root cause of this problem.
There are more people of Kashmiri origin in Pakistan than Bharat.
No, there aren't.
The people of the "Kashmiri biradri" in Pakistan are by and large Punjabi in terms of language, culture, etc. A ancestor who happened to be from Kashmir 400 years ago doesn't make one Kashmiri today.
There are a fair number of Kashmiri emigrees in Pakistan, but obviously nowhere near the number you'll find in Kashmir. There were about 105,000 Koshur-speakers in all of Pakistan in 1993 [so let's say 150,000 today] compared to over 5.5 million in [occupied] Kashmir proper today.
There are more people of Kashmiri origin in Pakistan than Bharat.
Kashmir is closer to Pakistan culturally and linguistically as well. Kashmiri is a Dardic language and the only country where there are significant speakers of Dardic languages is Pakistan, i.e. in the NWFP and Northern Areas (languages like Shina, Khowar etc).
Culturally, Kashmir is closer to NWFP than it is to, say, Punjab or Uttar Pradesh.
Also, Kashmiris are proud of Iqbal who was a Kashmiri. They feel ownership of the idea of Pakistan. Even if Kashmiris wish to be independent, they still want a close association with Pakistan, at least an arrangement where there are no restrictions on free movement of people and goods (As it was prior to 1947).
Too bad he still considered himself a Kashmiri Pundit and janam-bhoomi of his ancestors Kashmir.
It was this link of Pundit ji with Kashmir which is the root cause of this problem.
Exactly. It was this ******* in alliance with another traitor - Sheikh Abdullah - that led to Kashmiri slavery.
The Maharaja of Kashmir was ready for independence. The Muslim Conference too supported independence. Jinnah and Pakistan were not against the idea: they accepted the standstill agreement with the Maharaja. But Nehru had other ideas.
There are more people of Kashmiri origin in Pakistan than Bharat.
Kashmir is closer to Pakistan culturally and linguistically as well. Kashmiri is a Dardic language and the only country where there are significant speakers of Dardic languages is Pakistan, i.e. in the NWFP and Northern Areas (languages like Shina, Khowar etc).
Culturally, Kashmir is closer to NWFP than it is to, say, Punjab or Uttar Pradesh.
Also, Kashmiris are proud of Iqbal who was a Kashmiri. They feel ownership of the idea of Pakistan. Even if Kashmiris wish to be independent, they still want a close association with Pakistan, at least an arrangement where there are no restrictions on free movement of people and goods (As it was prior to 1947).
Pls read this.Times of India is one of the leading news papers in India,a very neutral and unbiased ,maintaining the highst standars and I am a regular subscriber of it,along with my state one
Ofcourse Kahmiris know that their well-being is with India only.
Ofcourse yes .Because Saraswati peet in POK has become a military barrack of Pakistan army.I certainly feel ashamed for that,and also for POK being in Pak hands.
Re: Is it time for Kashmir's Azaadi? 59% of Indians Say Yes According to Survey
^^ kashmir is very important for indian unity. On what basis you asking for kashmir? just because majority is muslim? I know what hindu extremists will say..they will say if kashmir is going because it has muslims majority then send all the muslims in india there coz we dont need another partition .
The situtaion will remain the same no matter what happens.
Re: Is it time for Kashmir’s Azaadi? 59% of Indians Say Yes According to Survey
^Not only because its population is majority Muslims, but the biggest factor and frankly the only one that matters is that Kashmiris themselves want to be independent. They feel oppressed. They live in a land that is known as Disputed Territory/Occupied Kashmir.
India/Pakistan were doing the samething that Kashmiris are doing today, when British Raj was very much intact and the Brits ruled India. I’m sure it was okay then because it was India seeking independence, so why is the noble gesture and ambition of independence not the same?
Those that fought for independence of India/Pakistan back then were called as Freedom Fighters, then why are the Kashmiris who are asking for the same called terrorists?
I really hope for a reply that is not tangent and addresses the topic and issues that are relevant to this.
^Not only because it's population is majority Muslims, but the biggest factor and frankly the only one that matters is that Kashmiris themselves want to be independent.
Exactly.
Re: Is it time for Kashmir's Azaadi? 59% of Indians Say Yes According to Survey
independent of what??? They are free to live whereever they want. I have people from kashmir working in my company and I dont see they are being oppressed.Cmon its all because of religion ..everyone knows that.
They have all the rights as any indian has got.Infact they have more rights than indian. They can buy property anywhere in india but a persn from other state cannot buy property in kashmir.
