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DearFaisal , I wanted to write kufr and I wrote kaffir. Kaffirs are those who do not believe in GOD as one, they make idols. GOD of money, God of Light, God of life etc etc and some are those who do pouja patt like Zartoush, they say fire is GOD. such people do not know about Taharat, they do not have any revealed book, and we take their sweat as najis, so we do not eat in their homes
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Dear Sokoon, all that you have recounted is the book definition of "mushrik" (and some other irrelevant stuff thrown in). You need to go back and understand the definition of "kaffir". Search this forum, and you will find plenty of discussions which address this issue.
Sheraz, you said "because now i know".. pls explain what you know now, and what is the basis of that "knowledge". Doesn't matter which fiqh it is, I am interested in knowing the evidence.
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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
You mean to suggest that it is NOT ok to eat with those who are neither christians nor jews...like e.g. hindus or parsis?
And then we complained that hindus treat muslims like sh!t pre-1947 and thus we needed a new homeland. Right?
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yes....ppl who do not believe in one God are mushriks and we can not eat what they make with their hands
but they did treat muslims like that ...and in those days ppl did mix with them anyways ....right?
Now this is really confusing..... I cant believe that Islam can be so narrow in its views. It's definitely some made up bullsh!t. It could be that not to eat/drink what is forbidden.... or to sit and eat with those who eat/drink what is forbidden. There have been christians, hindus, sikhs to our house as guests. We sat and ate with them. Also, we ate at their houses as guests. Many times, we've bought food from resrurants whose owner and workers were christians/hindus so does all that mean we committed sin?
Isnt that ridiculous? Who thinks this is really advocated by the Quran?
Quran has aayats stating that kafirs(kuffars) have their sweat najis, and if you shake hands with them one should do taharat.
There are many more things to know who are kuffars., who are yahouds, who are mushrakeens, and who are mounafaqueens etc etc . for this one has to read these sorahs with translation, more carefully.
Khufars are called najis because of mainly they do not believe in God as it is one,and theydo not do taharat after------
By the way same way khuffars think about muslims as najis. They better die hungry but they used to not eat in muslims plates or drink water from muslims pots.
If you think they were right then and you are right now that hindus are clean as they do not drink cows urine any more or their own urine like SHAKSTRI had announced, then it is upto you both. But this is what quran says for those who believe in cow as their Godess.
I also have many friends who are hindues , jews, or christians, some of them are my most faithful friends and we are very close. But I had written what muslim religion says in quran about mushrakeen and kuffars. Now you perhaps may be knowing better interpretation of quran?