is it possible to be proud to be Pakistani after last week?

I ma not sure how you would define leadership? Leadership to me is charting the course for the country whether its overt (through speeches or grand displays) or behind the scenes by setting the right policies. Based on this definition Manmohan Singh is a leader.

If you're expecting a tall strapping fellow with a gnarly mustache dominating people, then sure Singh is not your man.

Since you think that the US is so great in selecting leaders, I am assuming you like the heavy handed rhetoric of Bush or the sniveling lies of Clinton.

In terms of Pakistan, Quaid E Azam, Liaquat Ali Khan, Ayub Khan, ZAB, and BB could be considered 'leaders' on the international level. Folks like Zia, Yahya Khan, Jamali, and Nawaz Sharif could hardly had a 'presence.'

a.k.a. Tariq Akhtar, if Americans can be proud of their country after Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, Bush, and Iraq; then why not Pakistanis even after all this?
If Israelis can be proud of several massacres in Lebanon and Palestine, and continued occupation of foreign land then why not Pakistanis?

**Let us do a favour to all those Geeks who have nothing to loose at all if they are thrown out of Pakistan.....................

and throw them all out...............***:biggthumb*

Re: is it possible to be proud to be Pakistani after last week?

2 things.

1) ISI is linked to terrorist groups. Best for all if Pakistan solves this.

2) On Gilani and red carpet. I havent seen the video, but all sourcing stating its absence appear to be Indian ones. Anyone have the arrival video so it can be viewed?

Re: is it possible to be proud to be Pakistani after last week?

Question on "proud to be ...."

How many of the Pakistani guppies (or in general) felt "proud" to be "Muslim" after 9/11, 7/7 (Europe) etc.?

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^ This is not a rational questions. Egyptian Foreign Minister was asked the same question in BBC Hard Talk after 9/11. He replied in some similar words, "Do all Christians feels ashamed after what Hitler did?".

Re: is it possible to be proud to be Pakistani after last week?

is one's national pride tied to Pak American relations? if anything im disdainful of gilani, but thats as far as it goes.

It was Mohammed Ali the boxer who said that first right at WTC.