ussalam u alykum,
from given discussion i need some thing to be clear to myself,
that as i know Allah said to Prophet (SAW) not to have any relation with Munafiqeen, dont go for there funeral prayer and even not any relation (Allah kami beshi muaf farmai) so as relating to qadyanies, they call themselve as Muslim but they are not, (so to be considered munafiqeen) Moreover Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadyani was first Muslim but they he claimed for Nabuuwat so he became Murtad, (and u know the punishment of Murtad) and also his followers are like him.
so to relate other non-muslims with qadyanies is not good. and we shouldnt have any relation with qadyanies.if some one is eney of our father, we dont talk with him even fight with him. but if some one puts “Bohtan” on our Prophet(SAW)
(with saying that Ghulam Ahmad Qadyani is also a prophet(nauzubillah)) then how can we have any relation with them.
kindly let me know its not true what i said.
Jaza Kumullah
Plz comments on according to ur knowledge
Re: IS IT PERMISSABLE TO HAVE TIES WITH QADIANIS?
Its sometime nice to think outside the box for min (which sometime means) - Think out of Islam.
Thinking without constraints (of any kind) - I like the idea that people of different background respect each other, may have opposite view of something but find a median to live in harmony (without disrespecting being rude etc to each other).
If you feel soo strongly about Murtad's - why not gain enf knowledge and "clear" their bleiefs - which you think you are rightous? Isn't that a better way?
I posted a link to google video (in religious forum). See that video - should clear something for you
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i m asking just for the sake of knowledge ..it didnt mean tht i m against any religion at least one should know what is right and rong according to the rules that we are practising ....nor mean that other religion dont hav the right to liv .Every 1 hav the sam right to choose religion whatever they lik to hav..
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Why not? Are they not human beings. Belief is a personal thing.
Moreover, Qadianis have a lot of contribution in the establishment of Pakistan. Choudri Sir Zafarullah Khan, the first foreign minister of Pakistan, was a cloase associate of Qaud-i-Azam and authored Pakistan Resolution (partition plan).
Re: IS IT PERMISSABLE TO HAVE TIES WITH QADIANIS?
Why not? Are they not human beings. Belief is a personal thing.
Moreover, Qadianis have a lot of contribution in the establishment of Pakistan. Choudri Sir Zafarullah Khan, the first foreign minister of Pakistan, was a cloase associate of Qaud-i-Azam and authored Pakistan Resolution (partition plan).
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Did i mension somwhere that they are not human beings...
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i believe that was just used figuratively.
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I asked the same question to hard code Mullah here in UK. "Is it ok to have friendship with them, visit or invite them etc cause we live in multi ethnic society here and do work and have friendship withe people from all religion, ie, jews, hindus, sikhs, christians."?
His answer was, there is no harm in working with them but to have meal with them or visit them is not permissible.
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^ Exactly. You have to maintain some distance from all kaafirs- Qadianis, Ismailis and maybe other shia sects included.. depending on what moulvi sahib says.
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Being a zandeeq ( meaning who promote thier kuffriya aqaidh as islam to misguide others) it is unpermissable according to authentic ulemah to have any relationship with qadiyanis.
Moreover, Qadianis have a lot of contribution in the establishment of Pakistan. Choudri Sir Zafarullah Khan, the first foreign minister of Pakistan, was a cloase associate of Qaud-i-Azam and authored Pakistan Resolution (partition plan).
Do you know -dino- that judges appointed for red cliff award were qadiyanis hence the kashmir problem.I also had a scanned image of mirza writings that clearly state that mirza jee was against pakistan.
Let me dig it.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I have a great respect for all religions but if there,s a proof that there is any religion called Mirzaies.Qadianis or Ahadies etc, may be Tahiries in future or Lahories etc. they are all brain washed firkas. I would like to add to those people who beleive that (Nauabillah) Mirza was prophit tell them Allah has shown sighns for Momins and he had hart attack and was found dead in toilet, if you still beleive he was? Go to hell I can,t stop you and forget all political statement because Saitan is trying his best to prove his point and you are following his commands.
Secondly I live in europe and a fellow is telling us to respect others, do you know that Danish news paper who made Cartoons of a arab looking with big beard and guns on his turbon. It has came to know that before printing they did concerned so called musilm in Denmark for approval and they was given aprovel that you can issue these images there won,t be any problems execpt Saudi Arabians, Do you know now Denish papers and Daily Jhang in U.K has issued interview of seceret agent who interviwed those so called Muslims that they were actually Qadiani,s.
Do not expect any sympathy for these type of firkah,s(Groups) who are more dangerous than a Non muslims.
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it is permissible in my view to have ties with qadianies but only in formal environments such as your office or a business function. otherwise just go smart casual.
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Utterly laughable! Making rules as you please... The prophet himself had dinner with JEWS... where does anyone stand to wrong inviting someone to thier home...hospitality is valued by Islam and all Muslims...or atleast by the better Muslims...
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"La Ikraha fi Al-Deen" Islam the only unadultrated religion was the first to preach tolerance of all other faiths. The significance of this aya is so great that it follows Ayat al-Kursi which each one of us learns by heart.
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Mufta sahib-
Ever heared name of jabla bin aaeham - the person became murtad, also have you heared that Hazrat Muhammad:saw: ordered about few peoples that they should be killed even if they hide in kaabah-
Muslims resepct all religion given that they should not present their kuffar as islam, if they do then our prophet was also nabi ul mulahim - 