Is it blasphemous?

[LP]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

@cutenice62

nope…may chahta hoon tum meri sab say achi student banoo poetry explanation may :), i am also a student in this and i love to think long hours even during development(software) to know the hidden meanings of a shair :)…

itna waqt poetry sochne mai lagaon ? No way aur bhi bohot kuch hai sochne k liye…
But it wud be nice if you explained ur view…but aap ulta poochne lagte hain

[cutenice62]

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@Little Princess

itna waqt poetry sochne mai lagaon ? No way aur bhi bohot kuch hai sochne k liye…
But it wud be nice if you explained ur view…but aap ulta poochne lagte hain

zakham pay zakham kha k ji
apnay lahoo k ghoont pee

aah na kar, labon ko seee
ishq hai yeh dil lagi nahi…

tumhay dil lagi bhool jani paray gi
mohabat ki rahoon may aa kar tu dekhooo

[muqawwee123]

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ok iqbaliyaat may kisi bhi mahir ka mujhay link shair kar dain k iqbal nay jawab-e-shikwa aap ki understanding k accordingly likha...specific answer..

whats my understanding as per your understanding? You said that ' Iqbal ko muaaf rakhen', so you didn't get my point I think. I said that Iqbal didn't give a statement about Shikwa, he just got published 'Jawab e Shikwa', which normalised the things. If he hadn't done so, standalone Shikwa would still be considered a controversial poem. Whether he wrote 'Jawab e Shikwa' after reaction against 'Shikwa' or he had written 'Jawab e Shikwa' with 'Shikwa' and just published that later is a matter of research.

[cutenice62]

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whats my understanding as per your understanding? You said that ' Iqbal ko muaaf rakhen', so you didn't get my point I think. I said that Iqbal didn't give a statement about Shikwa, he just got published 'Jawab e Shikwa', which normalised the things. If he hadn't done so, standalone Shikwa would still be considered a controversial poem. Whether he wrote 'Jawab e Shikwa' after reaction against 'Shikwa' or he had written 'Jawab e Shikwa' with 'Shikwa' and just published that later is a matter of research.

tu bae maaf rakhain na iqbal ko sahee...sahe tu kaha k logon ko samjh lagi jawab-e-shikwa k baad...lakin is ka matlab yeh tu nahi na k shikwa kufriya hai.....tu iqbal ko please maaf kar dain :d

[muqawwee123]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

tu bae maaf rakhain na iqbal ko sahee...sahe tu kaha k logon ko samjh lagi jawab-e-shikwa k baad...lakin is ka matlab yeh tu nahi na k shikwa kufriya hai.....tu iqbal ko please maaf kar dain :d

ye baat to aap un Ulema e Hind ke gosh guzar karen jin ka oRhna bichona deen tha... hum kahan kisi ko maaf karne ke qabi : P

[cutenice62]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

ye baat to aap un Ulema e Hind ke gosh guzar karen jin ka oRhna bichona deen tha... hum kahan kisi ko maaf karne ke qabi : P

yani naa he samjhoon :p

[muqawwee123]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

Thanks God aaj tak Salman Rushdie ke liye kisi ne metaphoric explanations ka bahana nahin kia :)

[cutenice62]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

Thanks God aaj tak Salman Rushdie ke liye kisi ne metaphoric explanations ka bahana nahin kia :)

agreed :) But muqa bhai i would still suggest if you like poetry, then do get deep inside of what a shair means.....may in kufriya type k shairon ki baat nahi kar raha but general shairs ki bhi....coz agar aap ko shairi pasand hai tu aap ko us k deep meaning k andar bhi jana chahiyay....surface explnation k sath shairi ko parhna.....baat nahi banti kuch

[muqawwee123]

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agreed :) But muqa bhai i would still suggest if you like poetry, then do get deep inside of what a shair means.....may in kufriya type k shairon ki baat nahi kar raha but general shairs ki bhi....coz agar aap ko shairi pasand hai tu aap ko us k deep meaning k andar bhi jana chahiyay....surface explnation k sath shairi ko parhna.....baat nahi banti kuch

shayari apne waqt per hi samajh aati hai.... jo achi lag jae uss per banda sochne lag jata hai.. relate karne lagta hai.. jo aap per na beete wo tab tak nahin samajh aati jab aap uss situation ko face kare.. shayari apna aap khud kholti hai, mere khayal se sha'oori koshish utna nahin sikhati jitna experience sikhata hai

[cutenice62]

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shayari apne waqt per hi samajh aati hai.... jo achi lag jae uss per banda sochne lag jata hai.. relate karne lagta hai.. jo aap per na beete wo tab tak nahin samajh aati jab aap uss situation ko face kare.. shayari apna aap khud kholti hai, mere khayal se sha'oori koshish utna nahin sikhati jitna experience sikhata hai

but this argument apply's in every field. lakin shairi tu demand karti hai k usay asal rooh may samjha jayee....abb experience na milnay wali baat aik had tak valid ho sakti hai lakin experience nahi hai kehtay rehna is not good.....nahi hai tu aap shaori toor pay kosish karain...parhain.... may nay tu aap ko kaha hai k 3 chezain aap ko parhni chahiyay lazmi shairi ki explanation k liyay

Tashbeehaat
talmeehat
culture
or ista-aa-raat

[muqawwee123]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

but this argument apply's in every field. lakin shairi tu demand karti hai k usay asal rooh may samjha jayee....abb experience na milnay wali baat aik had tak valid ho sakti hai lakin experience nahi hai kehtay rehna is not good.....nahi hai tu aap shaori toor pay kosish karain...parhain.... may nay tu aap ko kaha hai k 3 chezain aap ko parhni chahiyay lazmi shairi ki explanation k liyay

Tashbeehaat talmeehat culture or ista-aa-raat

Any particular book/ books you think are helpful for understanding these things?

[Microbian]

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@muqawwee123

Any particular book/ books you think are helpful for understanding these things?

na karen aap aap na rahen gy

[muqawwee123]

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@marinakhan

na karen aap aap na rahen gy

ho sakta hai iss se banda aur acha ho jae.

[cutenice62]

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Any particular book/ books you think are helpful for understanding these things?

Warq Warq per Teri Abarat, Tera Fasana, Teri Hikayat ,
Kitab-e-Hasti Jahan say kholi Teri Muhabbat ka Baab Nikla

[Microbian]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

ho sakta hai iss se banda aur acha ho jae.

chalen phir lagen rahen

[cutenice62]

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@marinakhan

chalen phir lagen rahen

karobari bandi hai....may nay pehlay din he kaha tha.....bae is say bach k rehna...yeh hamay online bhi baich sakti hai..... :p

:) marina dont mind just tanwa tanwaa mazak kar leta hoon tum say ;)

[muqawwee123]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

Warq Warq per Teri Abarat, Tera Fasana, Teri Hikayat , Kitab-e-Hasti Jahan say kholi Teri Muhabbat ka Baab Nikla

main prose main jawab manga tha?

[Microbian]

Re: Is it blasphemous?

karobari bandi hai....may nay pehlay din he kaha tha.....bae is say bach k rehna...yeh hamay online bhi baich sakti hai..... :p

:) marina dont mind just tanwa tanwaa mazak kar leta hoon tum say ;)

what is tanwa tanwa?

mujhy lgta hy olx py add lgana he pary ga

btw poetry is not my cup of tea

[cutenice62]

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main prose main jawab manga tha?

aap nay kitab ka reference manga tha....may nay aap ko kitab ka reference day diya

"Kitab-e-Hasti "

[cutenice62]

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what is tanwa tanwa?

mujhy lgta hy olx py add lgana he pary ga

btw poetry is not my cup of tea

tanwa tanwa matlab kabhi kabhi :)

olx .... uff bas kar do karobar.... :)

make poetry your cup of coffee ;) yani kabhi kabhi :p