Re: Is Islamism a bankrupt ideology?
piccolo
And I would like to see the reference by Bernard Lewis you cite.!
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Yes Kush means Slaughter and its a Persian word. But the name of mountain is not Hindu Kush, its** Hind-o-Kash**.
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I thought, this mountain range was known as Paariyaatra Parvat.
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Now you changed your statement…
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what does it matter what it was called? the fact is a person like austin would be skinned alive if his comments were aired openly in any Pakistani goth.
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goth?
why would he be skinned alive?
and his comments are being aired openly here.
Most paks come from a society where information is very controlled…the culture isone of conformity
the religion considers innovation a sin
I find it amusing, coming from the wretched society you come from you assume this arrogance and wisdom
WHere do you all go for an education? Kabul? Islamabad? Yemen? Indonesia?
and you still think YOU know it all
thats why the islamic world is in such dire straits..determined ignore the ignorance and brutality nessary to perpetuate your society
and assuming a rediculous resentful and mocking attitude towards a civilization so hugely superior to your own
Re: Is Islamism a bankrupt ideology?
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to understand Islam, you must first understand the Bedouin, and to understand the Bedouin (Arabs), you must understand the desert of the Arabian peninsula. So he begins with the desert and how this molds the psychology of those who try to live off it. The people who resulted as Bedouins live a nomadic and predatory live style, with intense loyalties to families and tribes, and almost complete inability to deal with the future (conceptual range) and creativity. Theirs is close to an aconceptual existence, dominated by impulsivity, emotionality, and progress through looting, versus productivity.
Prior to Islam they had no civilization, nor have they developed one since Islam. They came close by the 9th century A.D., but managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the nick of time. Their sole creation has been a religion. Islam, said Servier, is a “secretion of the Arab brain.”
His history is a good accounting of the first centuries of Islam, up until the final ossification of Islamia which occurred in the Ottoman Empire. He documents how fragile young Islamia was after Muhammad because of infighting and a fading sense of purpose. What happened to the conquering hordes of Islamia after conquest became the biggest threat to early Islam. The conquering hordes had come from a geographical area devoid of civilization--the Arabian peninsula. The Arabs overwhelmed civilized “neighbors” by means of sheer physical force and barbarity. Those whom they conquered were always much more civilized than these barbarian Muslims, whose primary interests were physical loot, carnality, and the joy of bloodshed using raw power--Bedouin values and virtues sanctioned by Islam.
However, the conquering Arabs kept making the same mistakes. They forced conversion to Islam on the conquered peoples; then, they themselves grew soft through their internalization of the fruits of civilization from those whom they had conquered. The conquered peoples, once converted, became utterly equal to the Muslims, as Islam dictates. The conquered peoples always set about conquering their conquerors, who grew softer and softer. Also, the early Muslims, with their Bedouin psychology, turned on each other continuously with intrigue after intrigue, On the other hand, the conquered peoples, now equal to the Arabs, just grew stronger, threatening the future of Islam. Something would have to be done to save Islam.
Before the process of ossification of Islamia really took hold, these early Muslim Arabs delighted with the inventions, discoveries, arts and sciences, and publications they had looted from the civilizations they conquered. These civilizations had been heavily enculturated through exposure to centuries of Latin, Greek, and certain other civilizations. Syria, Persia, and India were reservoirs of those cultures, and were plundered by the Islamists who moved in to take from them.
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it is tragic what islam has done to your Hindu civilization...made you hate your own history
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Islamphobes come and go try their best best but watch as their own people convert to islam must really hit them where it hurts when they see that oh well thats life :)
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ak47
where do you live?
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the only problem I have with islam, is that islam requires submission from and control of non moslems.
otherwise I couldn;t care less how many shia the sunnis murder
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No punishment which was decreed by the Holy Prophet(PBUH) can be "barbaric" whether cutting hands or any other part.If people think that they are barbaric or primitive than it is their problem.
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so, cutting of feet and hands and heads is NOT barbaric? people who think this is barbaric have a problem?
LOL
more from the religion of peace.or is it the religion of pieces
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India media outlets confirmed Saturday night that at least 50 people were killed in the blasts that shook New Delhi earlier in the evening. Some of the fatality estimates were as high as 65. Pakistan condemned the blasts in no uncertain terms. A government statement said that "The attack in a crowded market place is a criminal act of terrorism. The people and government of Pakistan are shocked at this barbaric act and express deep sympathy with the families of the victims."
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I am sure the moslam are shocked!!
see what islam has done to thr magnificent Hindu civilization and to make you hate your history
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as a 'western' person who had very little contact with islam prior to 9/11, I always saw islam and arab in a very romantic and exotic way
fascinating and alluring and attractive, something different and exciting
only people who understand islam can be 'islamophobes'
because the facade and the takkya make islam very attractive
the truth is brutal and ugly
Re: Is Islamism a bankrupt ideology?
the same applies to Christianity (mediaeval) although now it is humane. the same is needed for Islam, a reformation and revolution.
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^^
while christian scholars have understood the necessity of changing with the modern times, their muslim counterparts have refused to understand the need for reform..
Islam would have been a revolutionary religion in the 4th century, but now most of the decrees need a relook (change).
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irrelevant question to the topic, even though i can see in your posts you are now desperate and clutching at straws, nevermind where i live face fact is islam is here to stay no matter how your xstain fanatic bush and company try to destroy it, because it will come back bigger and stronger than before!
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and believe me that change will come. it is in the nature of things to change. Islam has never been static, it has always been changing. essentially, the only change that is required is a separation of Church and State, i.e. secularism. the mullahs need to be emasculated and stripped of all the power they exercise. they should be as harmless as Christian padres. will this state of affairs come about? i have no doubt that it will.
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In what muslim country is the shariah the law? where your statement can then be measured against!
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Having estrablished itself, why would it continue to be revolutionary? Why is revolutionary good? In fact, Western governments are attacking all manifestations of poltical Islam exactly beacuse it is ‘revolutionary’…i.e. encourages revolution in Muslim lands.
Those who claim Islam needs reformation are simply seeking to mask their own inability to reconcile themselves with a way of life that is different from theirs…
when Muslims do it, it’s called “intolerance”.
What Muslims need is organization, in fact…of course, we would never hear the TRUTH from those who simply want our reformation (this is just rhetoric for assimilation and/or subjegation). We need solid institutions that work…economic, educational, etc. That’s the need.
Blaming Islam is a subterfuge, as Muslim scholars and the religious have not been influential beyond forming outlawed political parties. But then, when it comes to contemporary east-west issues, of course it’s all Islam’s fault from the eyesd of some Westerners…in particular those who could care less to think…
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Absolutely right bro. I have hard time believing some of the hadiths as not being moral not just now but even in the 8 th century. AS a non-muslims my parents taught morality and iif it went contrary to the teachings of our religion my father simply said the religion was wrong. Basically if any part of religion goes against the cardinal principle of morality which is treat others as you would have them treat you, then ignore the religion. Even many devout muslim friends of mine discretely follow this anyway.
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