Why you feel like this.. i dont know about all pakistan, but i have very good realations with Muslims or Pakistani's in Punjab ( Pakistan ) they never felt like this. here in india we have many a muslim frd we both celebrate our festival with one another .... when ever i go to Delhi, i always visit Jama masjid
You know what British People did with us Divide and Rule ... Now USA is doing the same ... not only with pakistan but also with India... Indian Govt. voted against Iran in UN...
Forget all difference and both countries must live like happy countries.
Just think are taking any bad from indian culture.
The state began judging entertainment as fahashi (obscenity) under General Zia. Therefore the people, closed off from entertainment, reached out to India. Islamisation drove the urban populations to watching cassettes of Indian films and buying satellite TV dishes. Interestingly the dishes were bought only after Indian programmes became available on them. This meant that American “culture” was not as acceptable to them as Indian culture. Under the circumstances, the state of Pakistan remains more upset about the “cultural invasion” from India than with the American one that comes in through globalisation. Yet, the fact is that Indian culture — and not Afghan or Iranian culture — is acceptable in Pakistan because of a cultural interface. This takes us to the phenomenon of liminality, of people trying to live together when the states don’t want to.
Afghans and balochis are considered to be of the iranian stock but balochis do claim they are related to kurds (the kurds busted out laughing when they heard about that claim... ).
The Kurds can laugh all they like but Balochis are related to them. Kurds, Persians, Pashtuns, Ossettians etc. are all partially of the same stock.
It is true that whilst other Iranic groups mixed with Turkic, Semitic, Armenian etc. peoples the Balochis (like the Indic people) have mixed with Dravidian so they resemble Indic people more than other fellow Iranic people but linguistically and culturally they are very much Iranic. Balochi is even more closely related to Persian than Pashto.
true, actually baluch are an offshoot of the Medes, like the Kurd. I have talked to enough kurds, adn they agree with this. Pashtuns and ossetians on the other hand are decendents of Eastern Iranian tribes(iranic), ossetians beaing decendents of the alanians, Samaritans I believe, and Pashtuns a amalgamation fo many eastern iranic tribes bonded by pashtu and pashtunwali.
Thank you, Nicholus John for the article. And this supports my contention that Pakistan is nothing but, culturally, an extension of Gange Valley and dominated by Indic people who, in the name of patriotism, are propagating Hindustani Culture and forcing it on non-Indic people of Pakistan.
Well as iranic people we need to manitain our culture my friend. I am all for tolerance, andlove learning about new cultures. However I wish to retain our iranic link bro, adn I feel unless pashtun and baluch intellectuals don't do something or the masses need o take a stand to keep our culture alive.
I don't know about you all, but they never taught pashtu in schools, and we used to get double fined in our school for speaking it (this might be the case in others). Plus there is not much efort to revive or keep iranic in general and pashtun in particular aspects. However the pashtun intellectuals should step in such instances to help keep these things alive.
The title of this thread is : Is Indian culture invading Pakistan?
I dont think that "invading" is the right word to use. If thousands of Pakistani homes freely choose to switch to Indian channels, or choose to watch Indian movies over local ones, then its not India's fault.
If you dont want to watch the channels, then simply change them. PEMRA has un-plugged the switch anyway now, so that wont be necessary.
As far as Indian movies are concerned, then Pakistanis must ask their film producers to make better ones.
Anyway, the movies are in Urdu and not Sanskrit, Tamil or Hindi. So why the problem ?
Well, if what this gentleman from Pakistan says is true, then sati is getting popular in Pakistan. Will you call it invasion ? Adaptation ? Or the new Pakistani version of Honour killings ?
Jang, 22 April 2006
SUICIDE OF WOMEN BY FIRE
**I would like to express my great concern about the women committing suicide by fire.** Why women commit suicide? What is the reason behind this deadly step? Does our law is unable to protect them? Do we discuss this most neglected issue in our national assembly? **Why always women are burnt with stove blast?** Do we still live in the era of darkness, where people used to set wife on fire with their dead husband and buried their daughters? How can we claim that we did a lot of progress, while this horrible element exists in our country? When they will feel secure in their own houses?
We should leave no stone unturned to eliminate this barbaric factor. Law making assemblies should make some strong laws so that no one dares to set women on fire. In burn cases there should be no need to lodge FIR. Government should conduct inquiries itself and if they find any shadow of doubt, they must go deep into the matter and punish the criminals. We should join hands to secure our women and give them all rights to live happily.
We need to push out and represent the iranic ties more in Pakistan, and pull the Majority (panjabis sindis + urdus)into our sphere (iranian branch) We are the more tougher people, and It looks like deep down, and down the line, they will thank us for it.:)
Buds I apreciate your enthusiasm, however I think we should only concentrate on strengthening them in our areas. I.e. Pakhtu language development, making naway kaal/no roz offiial in the pashtun areas or atleast holding functions, etc. However, we should bare in mind that the non-iranic peoples culture (i.e. punjabis, sindhis, etc) is as colourful and beautiful as anyone elses, so as long as we can develope our Afghan/pakhtun ulture and identity adn respect others then I am for it. If they don't wish to follwo our cultural things they should not have to. To each his/her own.
watching paki girls then yes indian culture is invading our homes:o …lol afghanis here..ur cultuere ain,t different then indians..same kafirs hindus buddist were ur fore fathers before they became muslim..hindis/urdu ain,t even ur lango but still afghani girls/boys luv indian movies/songs :halo: …
Most of them were fire-worshipers or plain pagans. Whatever, commonality of religion doesn't imply commonality of culture and ethnicity. Religion is but a very minor part of identity.
Pakistani people or shall i say people from the region that became known as Pakistan 50+ years ago have been dancing for ages. Mujras happen in Pakistan all the time. If we can embrace our Islamic/Persian/Arabic history(which isn’t even ours really) then why can’t we embrace our Pre-islamic history???
Ok so us Pakistanis are VERY CLASSY and them indians are VERY TRASHY?? jeez even though I find a lot of Indian things trashy like the cheap looking background dancers in bollywood movies, the sleazy movies and music videos coming out these days etc. you still can’t say that Indian culture is Trashy. I feel that just to distance themselves from Indians for God knows what reasons a lot of Pakistanis belittle them and try to associate themselves with their neigbours to the West.
Pushto movies are very trashy, same with tons of Lollywood movies(judging from the pictures at janubaba.com) but would you generalize and say that Pakistani culture is trashy?
But yes, i agree that Pakistan DOESNT need those kind of videos just because they have no artistic merit in my opinion. I love videos like Khamaj by Fuzon and Anarkali and I wish Pakistan keeps making videos like that.
True but India is developing it’s TV industry quite rapidly.
I agree with the last part. Pakistani dramas are copying Indian ones even though we don’t need to. The excess makeup Sadia Iman and all the new actresses wear in dramas these days is sickening. She used to be beautiful before and i think the new girls are also pretty underneath the tastelessly done facemasks. The saris are saddening to since the ethnic dresses of the northwestern subcontinent was the shalwar kameez( i’m not sure though). The sari is a beautiful garment but it’s just like seeing a kimono in a pakistani drama.
We have atleast 2 distinctions (pathan / balochi closer to persian / central asian while sindhi, mouhajir, punjabi closer to india with some sharing indian roots).
We just cannot classify ourselves as pure indian, arab, persian, central asian country!
The region(northwest part of South Asia) has never been pure to start with. And what's with the obsession with pureness anyways?