I think this matter should be discussed in a saperate thread…
I shall be very much thankfull to all of you if you can present one single ayat in Quraan which says that Hazrat Jibraeel A.S. is a “Malak”. you can take it as a challange
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^ separate mention is to show its importance not to show that its not part of the Quran…
*just like when it is said in the Quran (in Surah Al-Qadr) *
“The angels and Jibreel descend in it by the permission of their Lord for every affair”
it does not mean that Jibreel is not one of the angels…unquote
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what is your stand on Gabriel(as)? If he is not an angel then what is he?
Take it easy. Let first be stablished that he is not a malak then we will discuss what he is. Btw he doesnt come under the perview of "khalq" (just a clue)
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what is your stand on Gabriel(as)? If he is not an angel then what is he?
Take it easy. Let first be stablished that he is not a malak then we will discuss what he is. Btw he doesnt come under the perview of "khalq" (just a clue)
Interesting .... is there anything other than "Khalq" that we could ever classify him or any of us? Do you know what Khalq means?
I think I do know what ‘Khalq’ means for. This term is used to create or invent something with some other thing(s) and this process takes time. Like for example خَلَقَ ٱلْإِنسَنَ مِن نُّطْفَةٍۢ فَإِذَا هُوَ خَصِيمٌۭ مُّبِينٌۭ (sura Al-Nehl) or29هُوَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ لَكُم مَّا فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًۭا ثُمَّ ٱسْتَوَىٰٓ إِلَى ٱلسَّمَآءِ فَسَوَّىٰهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَوَتٍۢ ۚ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيمٌۭ (Al-baqara) or 59ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَوَتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا فِى سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍۢ ثُمَّ ٱسْتَوَىٰ عَلَى ٱلْعَرْشِ ۚ ٱلرَّحْمَنُ فَسْـَٔلْ بِهِۦ خَبِيرًۭا (Al-Furqan)
The thing other than khalq is "AMR" for which Allah SWT says "Ina ma Amrohu iza arada shai`in ani-yaqoolo lahu 'kun' fa yakoon"
Iltemase dua
Interesting .... is there anything other than "Khalq" that we could ever classify him or any of us? Do you know what Khalq means?
Danish, I hope you are not a Trinitarian. Hope you are not referring to the ‘Holy Spirit’ part of the God.
Salamun alaikum
kchughtai, kindly concentrate on the references and subject matter and don’t try to sabotage the discussion by just labeling the participants as trinitarian, shia,Sunni, qadyani, barelvi etc. Its my humble request
Iltemase dua
I think I do know what ‘Khalq’ means for. This term is used to create or invent something with some other thing(s) and this process takes time. Like for example خَلَقَ ٱلْإِنسَنَ مِن نُّطْفَةٍۢ فَإِذَا هُوَ خَصِيمٌۭ مُّبِينٌۭ (sura Al-Nehl) or29هُوَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ لَكُم مَّا فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًۭا ثُمَّ ٱسْتَوَىٰٓ إِلَى ٱلسَّمَآءِ فَسَوَّىٰهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَوَتٍۢ ۚ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيمٌۭ (Al-baqara) or 59ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَوَتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا فِى سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍۢ ثُمَّ ٱسْتَوَىٰ عَلَى ٱلْعَرْشِ ۚ ٱلرَّحْمَنُ فَسْـَٔلْ بِهِۦ خَبِيرًۭا (Al-Furqan)
The thing other than khalq is "AMR" for which Allah SWT says "Ina ma Amrohu iza arada shai`in ani-yaqoolo lahu 'kun' fa yakoon"
Iltemase dua
"Khalq" is not "Amr"??!!
Re: Is Hazrat Jibraeel A.S. A Malak (Angel)
How come?
Every khalq is by Amrullah.
If a child is born, is it not an Amr from Allah?