if so…how???
Truth and Innocence are the first casualties of War..!!
No Allah is undefinable. He does not have a conceivable form, nor do our perceptions like gender, shape, etc., apply to Him.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
No, the Divine is not a male figure
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Neither is our creator female.
Allah does resemble any of the creation in the world(s)/universe.
Which brings up an interesting question to mind:
Is S
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T
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N a male figure or female?
Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.
Love happens once . . .
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Originally posted by FactFinder:
**No Allah is undefinable. He does not have a conceivable form, nor do our perceptions like gender, shape, etc., apply to Him.
**
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according to your statement allah is undefinable, i.e. has no gendar either...rite??? is it out of your male schauvinity that u use "he" for him or wat??? no offese intended..!!!
Truth and Innocence are the first casualties of War..!!
Gender is only in species that have to procreate. It is absent in malaika and jinnat.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
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Originally posted by Vanity:
[Bis it out of your male schauvinity that u use "he" for him or wat??? no offese intended..!!!
**
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This is the way He has been addressed in all scriptures.
It is only now that the confused west is coming up with a 'politically correct' Bible.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
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Originally posted by FactFinder:
** Gender is only in species that have to procreate. It is absent in malaika and jinnat.
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do malaika procreate????
and as per my knowledge, satan (iblees) was one of the angles too...rather a very reputable one and of high cadre....so did he/she loose this characteristic of gendre with is "malookiyat"???
Truth and Innocence are the first casualties of War..!!
as per my knowledge.....the term used by allah is "allah-u-nurussamawat.." i dont know how and y we started addressing allah as "he" ??? does "noor" has any he or she characteristic......if not, as obvious...then y "he" has always to be used..!!!??
Truth and Innocence are the first casualties of War..!!
The Angels do not have a gender.
On the other hand according to the Quran, Satan is not an Angel. He is a Jinn.
Jinn are a species and to my knowledge have genders. Male and female. Which enables them to procreate.
Now I'd respect that FactFinder please provide some backup to your statement that Jinns do not have genders because I am pretty sure that they do.
Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.
Love happens once . . .
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Oh and Angels, Humans, Jinns, Animals are under the species list.
The word species simply means genus or kind.
Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.
Love happens once . . .
The reason we say Him go Allah is purely due to grammatical reasons. In french for instance, every thing is either of male or female gender, il or elle. Therefore the Him attribution.
Allah has no gender. He doesnt resemble his creations in any way. In urdu we would attribute him as WOH, a genderless attribution.
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Originally posted by aMiGo:
In urdu we would attribute him as WOH, a genderless attribution.
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but we would always say "Woh karta hai...etc.."" why dont we ever say "woh karti hai.."....
the reasons lie somewhere deeper than grammer..!!!!!
Truth and Innocence are the first casualties of War..!!
and what would that be ?
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Originally posted by FactFinder:
*No Allah is undefinable. He does not have a conceivable form, nor do our perceptions like gender, shape, etc., apply to Him. *
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Really?
Did'nt Allah create Adam in His own Image?
Allah created Adam in His Image;
therefore Alah is MALE,
therefore Allah has a FACE,
and a form.
Allah can be whatever He wants. But these followers of Mulla-ism put limits on Allah and tell Him(Allah)what He can be or not be.(naujabillah)
Just like they tell a woman what she can be or not be!
own image? reference plz ?
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Originally posted by faceup:
** Really?
Did'nt Allah create Adam in His own Image?
Allah created Adam in His Image;
therefore Alah is MALE,
therefore Allah has a FACE,
and a form.**
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The own image thing is from Christianity. This leads to my question after the next quote.
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Allah can be whatever He wants. But these followers of Mulla-ism put limits on Allah and tell Him(Allah)what He can be or not be.(naujabillah)
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What is your nationality and religious inclinations? I have a very valid reason to ask.
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Just like they tell a woman what she can be or not be!**
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This is fitna.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
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Originally posted by CocoNut:
Jinn are a species and to my knowledge have genders. Male and female. Which enables them to procreate.
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I have not seen clear evidence, but have heard some stories which indicate that I am at error regarding the Jinns. I stand corrected. Jazak Allah, brother.
In my hurry, I committed an error, for which I extend my apologies. May Allah pardon me also.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.