Is giving CPR to a girl Haram?

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I get that distinction, but I don't think that's what people are confused about. Fact is that part of the CPR process involves mouth-to-mouth. Although, you can use a partition device - some plastic thing I think that's got holes - I'm not too sure about it, since I don't plan on getting one and carrying it around with me. But its useful if you're afriad someone's got herpes lesions all over their mouth, perhaps, and you happen to have cuts on your mouth. Eh, yeah, I don't think its that useful, so whatever.

But mouth to mouth is part of CPR. I know that they used to have a different ratio between chest compressions and mouth-mouth, now its different. That doesn't mean that you don't do any more mouth-mouth. You still do, but just less.

I think the OP's concern was wether doing mouth-mouth is haraam, and fact is that if you're going to do CPR at ALL, then you have to have some mouth-mouth action.

CPR is totally halaal. Should be taught in all muslim countries in fact. In schools. Little kids should be trained in it. I don't think I've seen any family member of mine trained in it in Pakistan.

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Nope, and I supose it's the same principle that allows us to consume whatever if there is a medical need.

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The controversy is that the Japanese are suggesting that mouth-to-mouth could be excluded. Aside from the yukh factor, a Japanese study suggests that giving mouth-to-mouth steals time from giving vital chest compressions; and that someone who has just collapsed need compressions much more than mouth to mouth because their body should contain enough oxygen for little bit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6454013.stm

Advising first-aiders to give the “kiss of life” is off-putting and unnecessary, say medics.

Not only are bystanders less likely to help someone who has collapsed if they have to do mouth-to-mouth ventilation, many are unable to perform it properly.

Chest compressions alone are just as good if not better in most cases, a Japanese study in The Lancet shows.

They recommend resuscitation trainers revise their advice. But the British Heart Foundation disagrees.

The current advice is to give mouth-to-mouth ventilation unless you are unable, or are unwilling.

Studies show less than a third of people who collapse in public are helped by a bystander.

Surveys reveal many would-be first-aiders are put off by the idea of giving the kiss of life - for fear of catching an infectious disease, for example.

And when bystanders do assist, giving mouth-to-mouth can steal time from giving essential chest compressions.

Furthermore, if the patient has collapsed because of a heart rather than a lung problem they should already have enough oxygen in their body to keep them going without needing rescue breaths from a bystander.

Dr Ken Nagao and colleagues at the Surugadai Nihon University Hospital in Tokyo say in these circumstances it would be better for all parties to stick to giving chest compressions alone, which they called cardiac-only resuscitation.

They checked their theory by looking at the outcomes of more than 4,000 adult patients who had been helped by bystanders.

They found chest-compression-only resuscitation was the clear winner compared with conventional CPR (cardiopulmonary resuscitation, or mouth-to-mouth breathing together with chest compressions).

Colin Elding of the British Heart Foundation said a number of studies had shown it could be as effective as combined mouth-to-mouth ventilation and compression in many cases.

But he said it was right for CPR guidelines to still include mouth-to-mouth.

He added: "The current guidelines state, however, that for ‘lay person’ CPR, if the rescuer is unwilling or unable to give rescue breaths they should give chest compressions only and that these should be continuous at a rate of 100 per minute. The BHF believes this is sound advice.

“Cardiac arrests are a serious problem in the UK, which is why the BHF recently launched its Doubt Kills campaign, to encourage people experiencing potential heart attack symptoms to call 999.”

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Thanks Mad sci. Its still not proof that its haraam to give mouth-mouth CPR to someone, especially if the guidelines in their country haven't changed legally.

By the way, mouth-mouth CPR isn't totally ineffective. Its saved numbers of people.

It disturbs me that in a thread where someone asks whether its haraam to give mouth-mouth CPR (no matter what the ratio of mouth-mouth to compressions is), that people feel the need to start pulling out studies showing the mouth-mouth is not effective, instead of encouraging each other to do what we can to save a human life.

The studies you've posted may show the POSSIBILITY of a more effective technique on the horizon, but it certainly doesn't say that the current techniques that do involve SOME mouth-mouth are TOTALLY ineffective.

I hope people who are reading these articles aren't walking away thinking mouth-mouth is haraam and totally ineffective (as divinely ordained), and then plan on not even learning CPR.

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Rest assured, I am with you on this.

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I hope people who are reading these articles aren't walking away thinking mouth-mouth is haraam and totally ineffective (as divinely ordained), and then plan on not even learning CPR.
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beautifuly said:D

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beautifuly said:)

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Submission to PEace, those articles were interesting but they dont provide any concrete evidence... just 1-2 tests or researches done.. the research says that mouth to mouth isnt always 2 helpful.. and not 2 reliable czu a lot of ppl feel uncomfortable doing it (it's true, i find it uncomfortable too, i would almost never do it to a guy blame my homophobi haha).. but the fact that it is still a widely accepted practice that HAS proved to be successful on many occasions for years and years.. and until its one of the best on-hand techniques which can potentially (if not for sure) save sum1s life.. it shud b okay to do it from a religious point of view and should not be haraam...

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In a life saving situation It should be Halal and I am not an Alim by any means. Common sense demands that it should be halal. Also in a life saving situation you are allowed to eat pork too. Islam is a very practical and flexible religion.

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Very well said and yes this is very sensible analysis. This kind of attitude is what the Muslim world needs. Islam is indeed a pragmatic way of life.