Is food cooked with alcohol halal?

Afro-Sheen · September 29, 2006, 1:58pm

For example some people make shrimp scampi with white wine…
Now my question is its being burnt and cooked down, so no alcoholic effect left…so is food cooked with wine or sherry haram?

Creme_Brulee · September 29, 2006, 2:20pm

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I would think it is best to avoid those foods.

For example some japanese restaurants use mirin (which is alcoholic) in their food and sushi, so even eating at those restaurants could be considered wrong.

PrinceMS · September 29, 2006, 2:20pm

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I will like to know as well. Quranic references will more appreciated than hadith.

Afro-Sheen · September 29, 2006, 2:31pm

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Same here, can anyone provide some proper islamic backing to show it would be haram? I dont think it is haram, as it has no alcoholic property to it anymore....its been cooked/burnt away.

bellarie · September 29, 2006, 2:33pm

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great topic!...even i wondered exactly about this many times...but didn't dare to say anything out because you know, if you just want to clarify your doubt, people go like OH MY HAVE YOU LOST IT?...YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CONSUMING ALCOHOL?...

but i sure would like to know if the fo0d is considered haraam when the alcohol used is completely co0ked out....

Creme_Brulee · September 29, 2006, 3:03pm

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I found some threads in Religion:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=41163&highlight=food+cooked+in+alcohol

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=39769&highlight=food+cooked+in+alcohol

PrinceMS · September 29, 2006, 5:25pm

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^^ I found only 1 post really relevant in those discussions:

Post # 32 @ http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=39769&page=2

Zabardast · September 29, 2006, 5:56pm

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No way...even a drop of alcohol is haram...Period!

Krypton · September 29, 2006, 6:01pm

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^unles...

Mr_Fraudia · September 29, 2006, 7:00pm

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here is another thread on the same topic.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=182715&highlight=alcohol

and some info that i had found..

A study conducted by the US Department of Agriculture’s Nutrient Data Laboratory calculated the percentage of alcohol remaining in a dish based on various cooking methods. The results are as follows:

Preparation Method Percent of Alcohol Retained
alcohol added to boiling liquid & removed from heat 85%
alcohol flamed 75%
no heat, stored overnight 70%
baked, 25 minutes, alcohol not stirred into mixture 45%
baked/simmered, alcohol stirred into mixture:
15 minutes
40%
30 minutes
35%
1 hour
25%
1.5 hours
20%
2 hours
10%
2.5 hours
5%

Mr_Fraudia · September 29, 2006, 7:01pm

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it is not all burnt..as noted in the USDA report i posted in my prev post

bellarie · September 29, 2006, 11:37pm

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thanks for the info, friends!

PrinceMS · September 30, 2006, 8:17pm

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Got **Quranic **references?

@Fraudz: Our questions is:
- Is "Alcohol" haram when there is no drowsiness effect? The quantity of alcohol dissapearing only becomes relevant once you have established the answer of above question.

Saqi_the_angel · October 3, 2006, 1:28pm

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Very interesting

How do you know what is Qur’an and what is Hadith?

Who told you the difference?

Saqi_the_angel · October 3, 2006, 1:29pm

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I agree with you

Decent_6Chora · October 3, 2006, 1:54pm

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I will try to find out some references for you but just to point out that i see fault in your logic that “its burnt away” so its not haram. If its “burning away” with not leaving any taste and property behind, why bother putting it in the dishes?

How about someone shooting other person for no reason and then after 1 month because wound heal, there should be no punishment for shooter? After all the wound “burnt away”!

Afro-Sheen · October 3, 2006, 4:51pm

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Decent you misunderstood...by burnt away...it adds taste of course...BUT the alcoholic properties are gone to...basically you cant get a buzz or get drunk off food that has alcohol cooked into it....
again please I didn't open this thread for sarcasm or biting remarks....im simply asking a serious question that I am wondering about?

Zabardast · October 3, 2006, 5:04pm

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The exact Quranic reference I don't have at this moment...but the other day...I met a Shaitan...and even he told me that alcohol is haram...and his job is to make it halal...he said to me...howzaaaaaaat?

I said to him...I guess I agree with you...just because you happen to be a Shaitan...discussion closed. Period! :)

Decent_6Chora · October 3, 2006, 5:25pm

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Quran 5:91
Shaitân (Satan) wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allâh and from As-Salât (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain?"

**Quran 2:219 **
“They ask you (O Muhammad) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: “In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit.” And they ask you what they ought to spend. Say: “That which is beyond your needs.” Thus Allâh makes clear to you His Laws in order that you may give thought.”

and another good read:

Q. Why is alcohol forbidden in Islam?](http://islam.about.com/od/health/f/alcohol.htm)

A. Intoxicants were forbidden in the Qur’an through several separate verses revealed at different times over a period of years. At first, it was forbidden for Muslims to attend to prayers while intoxicated (4:43). Then a later verse was revealed which said that alcohol contains some good and some evil, but the evil is greater than the good** (2:219)**. This was the next step in turning people away from consumption of it. Finally, “intoxicants and games of chance” were called “abominations of Satan’s handiwork,” intended to turn people away from God and forget about prayer, and Muslims were ordered to abstain (5:90-91). (Note - the Qur’an is not arranged chronologically, so later verses of the book were not necessarily revealed after earlier verses.)

In the first verse cited above, the word for “intoxicated” is sukara which is derived from the word “sugar” and means drunk or intoxicated.

That verse doesn’t mention the drink which makes one so. In the next verses cited, the word which is often translated as “wine” or “intoxicants” is al-khamr, which is related to the verb “to ferment.” This word could be used to describe other intoxicants such as beer, although wine is the most common understanding of the word.

Muslims interpret these verses in total to forbid any intoxicating substance – whether it be wine, beer, gin, whiskey, or whatever. The result is the same, and the Qur’an outlines that it is the intoxication, which makes one forgetful of God and prayer, which is harmful. Over the years, the list of intoxicating substances has come to include more modern street drugs and the like.

The Prophet Muhammad also instructed his followers, at the time, to avoid any intoxicating substances – (paraphrased) “if it intoxicates in a large amount, it is forbidden even in a small amount.” For this reason, most observant Muslims avoid alcohol in any form, even small amounts that are sometimes used in cooking.

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