Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
the reason why trump is rising to the ranks of presidential nomination is because of democracy. That is what the article is saying
Btw, to be fair, the method of electoral college is designed specifically to counter the problem of idiots being elected because they gained popularity amongst common men. Somehow, at least in case of trump, even that system is back firing.
If China had a problem where they for example allowed a lot of Indians in their country, gave them equal rights, gave them opportunities to advance, spent on their welfare and healthcare and then a whole bunch of Indians started stabbing, bombing and plotting to kill Chinese on a daily basis and their govt had to spend billions protecting their citizens and all citizens are inconvenienced and alarmed by security risks then do you think they might start voting for the person who wants to kick Indians out.
In a democracy, each group has to convince majority thet they contribute positively towards society hence the lobbyist.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
If China had a problem where they for example allowed a lot of Indians in their country, gave them equal rights, gave them opportunities to advance, spent on their welfare and healthcare and then a whole bunch of Indians started stabbing, bombing and plotting to kill Chinese on a daily basis and their govt had to spend billions protecting their citizens and all citizens are inconvenienced and alarmed by security risks then do you think they might start voting for the person who wants to kick Indians out.
In a democracy, each group has to convince majority thet they contribute positively towards society hence the lobbyist.
When have Muslims bombed, stabbed or killed US citizens on a regular basis? (minus Sept 11, if the official version is to be believed.)
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
If China had a problem where they for example allowed a lot of Indians in their country, gave them equal rights, gave them opportunities to advance, spent on their welfare and healthcare and then a whole bunch of Indians started stabbing, bombing and plotting to kill Chinese on a daily basis and their govt had to spend billions protecting their citizens and all citizens are inconvenienced and alarmed by security risks then do you think they might start voting for the person who wants to kick Indians out.
In a democracy, each group has to convince majority thet they contribute positively towards society hence the lobbyist.
USA is a unique country in that aspect. Whites displaced the original owners of this country to claim the ownership. Forget about native Americans, as recent as last century, Mexicans were pushed out of their land and now white America treats the same Mexican as intruders. Why may I ask?
This is exactly what Muslims did to Hindus in india, and then britishers did that to both Muslims and Hindus.
Re: Is democracy really the best form of government
theorist - it's not really about dictators either. and as for anarchy, that sits on complete lack of governance which is not going to work. just because democracy fails in some situations, does not mean that the whole concept is flawed. a tighter, more well regulated form of government seems ideal where voice is given to reason and "freedom of speech" isn't abused.
Clearly, I don't understand politics, hence, I am borderline Anarchist. Anybody who wants to abuse the system will find a way to do it no matter how perfect or regulated the system is. I don't really think democracy is better than other forms of government. We have too many corrupt and selfish politicians to care for the well being of people. They would use and abuse anyone to carry out their agenda meanwhile making everyone think they are serving the people. Money is the only form of government and everything else is bogus.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
When have Muslims bombed, stabbed or killed US citizens on a regular basis? (minus Sept 11, if the official version is to be believed.)
Did we forget San Bernardino, Boston Bombing attacks and bombings in Europe, Mass sexual attacks in Germany and thousands and thousands of foiled attacks? I remember a time when we got to places without beeing body searched now can't go to most venues without being searched.
I bet you if they relaxed the security standards there would be blasts going on in every city. Just because they are not succeeding doesn't mean they are not trying
The moderates have failed to convince population that they really oppose this ideology.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
Did we forget San Bernardino, Boston Bombing attacks and bombings in Europe, Mass sexual attacks in Germany and thousands and thousands of foiled attacks? I remember a time when we got to places without beeing body searched now can't go to most venues without being searched.
I bet you if they relaxed the security standards there would be blasts going on in every city. Just because they are not succeeding doesn't mean they are not trying
The moderates have failed to convince population that they really oppose this ideology.
Hang on, your analogy was that US citizens were being maimed regularly by Muslims hence the reason for right wingers like Trump being elected in US, so where does Europe or Germany come into this?
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
If China had a problem where they for example allowed a lot of Indians in their country, gave them equal rights, gave them opportunities to advance, spent on their welfare and healthcare and then a whole bunch of Indians started stabbing, bombing and plotting to kill Chinese on a daily basis and their govt had to spend billions protecting their citizens and all citizens are inconvenienced and alarmed by security risks then do you think they might start voting for the person who wants to kick Indians out.
In a democracy, each group has to convince majority thet they contribute positively towards society hence the lobbyist.
Well, they should stop shi**ing in other countries. They can bomb millions of people in other countries but when their own a$$ gets bombed, they cry foul. If you are at war with other countries, you should expect some backlash. Why do you think US spends billions on defense?
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
USA is a unique country in that aspect. Whites displaced the original owners of this country to claim the ownership. Forget about native Americans, as recent as last century, Mexicans were pushed out of their land and now white America treats the same Mexican as intruders. Why may I ask?
This is exactly what Muslims did to Hindus in india, and then britishers did that to both Muslims and Hindus.
And now cause of democracy liberals win by support from Latinos, Muslims, blacks, homosexuals, pro-choice people, women etc.
The power always belongs to the strongest and democracy seems the best system to protect the weaker people.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
Well, they should stop shi**ing in other countries. They can bomb millions of people in other countries but when their own a$$ gets bombed, they cry foul. If you are at war with other countries, you should expect some backlash. Why do you think US spends billions on defense?
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
So they should let ISIS takeover the world?
It's Muslims who are fighting the ISIS, not the Americans. The US would like you to think they are fighting ISIS, they are not. They are hardly affected by what is ISIS in doing in the Middle East. ISIS is a byproduct of war on terrorism. There is a reason ISIS is gaining support. ISIS leaders came from POW camps in Iraq when US decided to leave Iraq and let everyone go free.. You can't just ruin a country then up and leave.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
Had they not bombed Iraq there would be no ISIS today.
If Saddam had left when he was asked to then there would have been no Iraq war, If Saudis hadn't attacked on 911 there would be no rift. Why aren't they bombing India or Canada?
I can understand the frustrations but really in a war if our loyalties are with the other people then they have the right to ask us to go to a society we are loyal to. Palestinians murder any Muslim living there who sympathises with Israel.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
If Saddam had left when he was asked to then there would have been no Iraq war, If Saudis hadn't attacked on 911 there would be no rift. Why aren't they bombing India or Canada?
I can understand the frustrations but really in a war if our loyalties are with the other people then they have the right to ask us to go to a society we are loyal to. Palestinians murder any Muslim living there who sympathises with Israel.
...And you seem to think the US went to war with Iraq because of Saddam's crimes. Oh, you are so naive. People shouldn't be blindly loyal to their country of residence. This is the reason why Trump's supporter refuse to see the bigger picture. They are so damn patriotic that they refuse to see the crimes of their own government. This is why patriotism/nationalism is dangerous.
Are you sure 911 was what you think it was? How can you be sure? This is why we need to do our own research and search for the truth no matter how much it pisses us off or goes against our belief system.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
If Saddam had left when he was asked to then there would have been no Iraq war, If Saudis hadn't attacked on 911 there would be no rift. Why aren't they bombing India or Canada?
I can understand the frustrations but really in a war if our loyalties are with the other people then they have the right to ask us to go to a society we are loyal to. Palestinians murder any Muslim living there who sympathises with Israel.
What right has any country got to with deciding when Saddam should leave? What connection does Iraq have with 9/11? You mention Saudis and 9/11 so why are they such good allies with US?
I don't know about you understanding frustrations but atleast apply basic logic and show some understanding of the realpolitik involved in foreign relations.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
What right has any country got to with deciding when Saddam should leave? What connection does Iraq have with 9/11? You mention Saudis and 9/11 so why are they such good allies with US?
I don't know about you understanding frustrations but atleast apply basic logic and show some understanding of the realpolitik
involved in foreign relations.
We are world citizens also and they have assumed the responsibility of world order. Saddam was not a legal ruler of the country. He had committed atrocities against population. There is a war and people here are saying if you are against us then please leave this country. Do you think that is unfair?
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
We are world citizens also and they have assumed the responsibility of world order. Saddam was not a legal ruler of the country. He had committed atrocities against population. There is a war and people here are saying if you are against us then please leave this country. Do you think that is unfair?
How are the Arab kings legal? Why are they supported by US? Saddam being legal or not has nothing to do with any other country.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
Hang on, your analogy was that US citizens were being maimed regularly by Muslims hence the reason for right wingers like Trump being elected in US, so where does Europe or Germany come into this?
Last time I checked neither were part of America.
Western nations are a coalition and support each other. USA was involved in extracting revenge after Paris attack. How many billions do you think are spent protecting us from terrorist attacks. A picture of a drowned Syrian boy resulted in millions of refugees being allowed into Europe, similarly, San Bernardino attack resulted in Trump ascending to popularity.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
Western nations are a coalition and support each other. USA was involved in extracting revenge after Paris attack. How many billions do you think are spent protecting us from terrorist attacks. A picture of a drowned Syrian boy resulted in millions of refugees being allowed into Europe, similarly, San Bernardino attack resulted in Trump ascending to popularity.
You're rambling incoherently, no offence. From some imagined defense of Paris to imagined billions in protection then to a drowned boy and then San Bernardino.
Without failing to back up your claim of how Muslims have maimed Americans regularly.
Re: Is democracy really the best form if government
We are world citizens also and they have assumed the responsibility of world order. Saddam was not a legal ruler of the country. He had committed atrocities against population. There is a war and people here are saying if you are against us then please leave this country. Do you think that is unfair?
Sure. Your post is correct but that is not the reason why US went to war with Iraq. 911 had nothing to do with Iraq. Because they have assumed the responsibility of world order is exactly why America gets to much hate. America needs to protect the world against evil but all it cares about is resources and it doesn't care how it gets it.