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*Originally posted by karina: *
what if it was proved to you that animals feel pain and terror, would you still feel it's ok to kill animals? no one is saying dont eat meat, but would you consider for a minute that maybe it's bad to cause distress to animals when they too are god's creatures.
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Islamic slaughter is both humane and hygienic.
Humane because we are ordered to make a swift, deep cut using a very sharp knife cutting the jugular veins, carotid arteries, trachea and the oesophagus. This causes a large amount of blood to gush out in a few seconds, which results in the animal becoming unconscious before the signals from the pain receptors in the neck reach the brain.
Hygienic because we leave the spinal cord attached to the head, which means the muscles can still contract and all the excess blood, which contains waste products such as urea and creatinine etc. and other toxins is drained out of the meat. Captive bolt stunning results in unhygienic meat for the consumer because most of the blood is retained in the meat.
And if you think killing animals for food is wrong then you might as well starve to death because like someone mentioned earlier plants are also live creatures.
^^ yes, as long as it's humane and quick, fine. What I meant was the slaughter houses as the west is calling abattoirs. seems like animals live in filth and pain. what's worse is that deseases are being passed from them to us. I stopped eating meat long back, but I can't give up sea food.
Where plants are concerned, I could be wrong but I read somewhere that plants feel shock, not pain. they don't have a developed nervous system, but they do have consciousness, so they know what is going on.
well theres this nice quote by a guru. a man asked him if veggies are better people and the guru replied, 'give me a kind hearted meat eater any day over a cruel veggie'.
its not the problem of being a vegetarian muslim..peoples do like some special food but must not restrict themselves to avoid some blessing......i like meat alot and hardly go for vegetables only but we should not stick to some special type....thats called KUFRAN E NAIMAT.....
Well, it has been proved that even plants feel pain (Jagdish Chandra Bose experiment) so I dont think there is any point in that logic.
I have been a vegetarian since childhood. I try eating it once in a while but dont like it.
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I am starting to believe that you are not a Muslim! I have no right to judge you but you do not sound Muslim!
Firstly, Allah has allowed meat to be eaten so eat it! Why are you prohibiting what Allah has allowed.
Secondly, it is the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) to eat meat. Why are you denying this Sunnah?
As you know, amongst the two great Muslim festivals, Eid al Azha is characterized by meat eating and distributing to relatives and poor. It is in fact the Sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim (AS).
Where do you live? I have never seen a Muslim living in a Muslim surrounding or otherwise not eating meat.
Well, we can't like everything. Personally, I'm not fond of chicken, I can eat roasted chicken once in a while, but further, I don't like it.
I do like other meat, sometimes, not so much. You just can't like everything. We all hae different tastes, Allah has created us with different tastes. Nobody does everything perfectly according to sunna.
I think if you don't eat it that much, because you dn't like the taste, it should be oké I think.
Mr islamabad, Meat is meat. Why you don’t try human flesh some time?
Pls do not open Quran all the time. Use your mind and rational thinking sometime for answer.
Jagdish Chandra’ plant theory, can be correct or incorrect. But animals really cry when killed by any means, Zhhattka or Hallal.
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*Originally posted by yahudi: *
Mr islamabad, Meat is meat. Why you don’t try human flesh some time?
Pls do not open Quran all the time. Use your mind and rational thinking sometime for answer.
Jagdish Chandra’ plant theory, can be correct or incorrect. But animals really cry when killed by any means, Zhhattka or Hallal.
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how humans in artic area can be vegetarians? how can eskimos
survive on vegetrain diet?
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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
I am starting to believe that you are not a Muslim! I have no right to judge you but you do not sound Muslim!
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So now my eating habits will decide my religion ? Well, you can think whatever you want. I am a pakka Veggie and will remain so.
???? How so brother ? I am just curious. I am a vegetarian, I tried couple of times but couldn't eat it.
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If you are not ill or do not have an allergic reaction to any of the foods that are not Haram, you should not ban yourself from those foods that are deemed halal. Having said that, I dont think that Allah is going to hold you accountable for small things like that. Lets worry about bigger and better things. Shall we?
A muslim can not declare anything as Haraam, which is not declared Haraam by Allah Ta'allah (or His prophet) ... but one can choose not to eat something which one doesn't want personally: in this case, meats. So to say that someone who doesn't like to eat meats is doing something unislamic, is perhaps, not entirely accurate.
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I thought someone would mention the Hadiths about eating meat with-in 40 days even if you have to take loan ... or is it one of the hear say Hadiths?
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i ve heard that too...but same problem, not sure....can someone clarify this?
Even if the Hadiths turns out to be authentic, there is still room for interpretation. For example, protein is necessary for human body and in a desert the best form of protein is meat, and so it could have been stressed for very understandable nutritional reasons.
"Best form of ...." is actually neither here nor there. I am sure many can argue successfully that you can have a perfectly balanced diet without any meats. So thats not the point.
The point is, its allowed to eat meats (certain kinds of meats, ofcourse). If you choose not to eat them, its your choice. You can't consider them haraam, cz only Allah can do that. Baaqi don't want, don't eat; simple! :)
I remember reading that the Prophet (PBUH) didn't like to eat garlic. He didn't eat it, but he didn't declare it haraam. So, it was his choice. You eat it if you like it. You don't eat it if you don't like it. Its not a difficult concept, really. ;-)