Is Army and civilian government headed for confrontation again?

[Jolie]

Re: Is Army and civilian government headed for confrontation again?

@Sa1eem

Best of the best civilians rulers from my country (assuming that it is Pakistan), then I would not be surprised if your model be General Rani ruling the country behind the curtain.

Anyhow, it seems you have not read the post you are referring too. So, let me explain again.

No one is saying that job of army chief and ruler is not different in present day political system. What I wrote is that, historically both jobs (army chief and ruler) were held by same person, and that history is of days when western politics did not became norm.

I also wrote that this separation happened with many constraint on rulers, that is of being moral high, truthful, competent, efficient … and not one who do corruption, nepotism, misconduct and mismanagement … plus there are many other restraints too (for instance, there should be no conflict of interest and that means, one in power should not be doing business or work for someone).

Plus, for civilian to be ruler, country has to have strong, efficient, competent and incorruptible accountability, judiciary, bureaucracy and policing.

Else, whatever ruler do or try, they would be insecure from one commanding the forces.

Yea, and I did replied, that Quaid-e-Azam was not playboy and politician at the same time. As for being Alim-e-Deen (or behaving as Alim-e-deen, what Imran do regularly), Quaid-e-Azam never did that.

What’s up these bunch of grown men on internt (I apologise if you are a woman) obsessing over Imran playboy image? You lot make Mulana Fazlu look ‘liberal’.

Get over this Mullah policing, even Imran doesn’t deny nor remotely act apologetic over his past, I wonder what pleasure you get from highlighting his colourful past? Does it really excites anyone here by any chance? It really is quite disturbing.

You seriously need to read a bit more on Jinnah, if you think Imran acts like Alim e Deen, I wonder what you have to say about Jinnah who suddenly at the age of 70 started using religion to create a country? Read a bit more about Jinnah’s oh so British lifestyle in good old Imperial Britain.

Typical Mullah antics to associate profound level of religiosity with Jinnah.

assuming that it is Pakistan

No it’s not.

Give me some examples of how in West military rulers paved the way for “strong, competent, efficient, and incorruptible accountability, judiciary, bureaucracy, and policing”