Irshad Manji

[lazy_daisy]

Re: Irshad Manji

It took me a long time to remember that I knew who Irshad Manji was

(a) not a man
(b) someone I had heard about before

anyway carry oon

[Kaleem]

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@PyariCgudia

Well, you know, some people think that the pen has a great deal of power, because through any form of literature or journalism or writing, you can influence how people think.

Books are important…

Actually, nevermind, I’m talking to Pakistanis on a Pakistani forum. I wouldn’t expect everyone to value education and kitaabein and the power that comes with it.

Yes and this forum was created/supported and run by some miracle. Not a single book was hramed in supporting thsi endeavor. None of the good folks involved, very high percentage of whom were born and raised in pakistan have ever understood the importance of books and knowledge, however, for no apprent reason they were able to create and sustain arguably the biggest Pakistani forums. Yep, them pakistanis do not understand the value of books, and feminist wannabes with a chip on their shoulders do.

[Muzna]

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Aww c'mon Kaleem....PCG has a right to her opinion......even if it is sour grapes.

[expatobserver]

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@Anwaar Qureshi

sorry to say but ISMAILIES (Agha Khanies) are NOT muslims. She was born in a Ismaili Family; and her transgression in the religion is quite disgusting to say the least.

I agree and propose that Pakistan should immediately stop accepting hundreds of millions of dollars that Aghakhan foundation pours into Pakistan every year. Close down all the hospitals, women's shelters, children's programs and all the charitable stuff that these ismali *******s keep on doing in Pakistan. Throw Agahkhanis and their money our of your land of pure.

[Lucid_Chaotic]

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I’m just wondering how many ppl here have actually read her book… as opposed to those who deem their public esteem to be besmirched by this lesbian ijtihadi. Truth be said, most of the negative viewpoints that I have observed are merely indicative of outright denial – why haven’t there been more attempts to rationally refute her thoughts… and thoughts they are… her book is full of conjectures and personal experiences.

I wish I had the time to enlist my comments here in one post but I don’t… but here’s a starting point:

As I remember it off the top of my head, she tries to strengthen her position by constantly quoting Edward Said and by summarizing his classic “Orientalism”. That being said, as I was reading her book, I really started thinking that she hadn’t really read Edward Said. A case in point was when she talks about the West's supposed tendency to colonize Muslims. On the contrary though, Said talks about actual colonization - he talked about the British colonial conquests.

Also, she portrays Afghanistan's women as symbolic of the oppression by Islamic regimes, but no where in her book or her website is there any mention of how some women in that country have been resisting this brutality – the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA) has been pretty successful in its recent endeavors and I think Manji needs to read Anne Brodsky's book entitled 'With All Our Strength'.

I’d like to hear more from someone who has read the book.

[Muzna]

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Umar,

I was looking for someone that has read her book as well. Unfortunately there seem to be some very strong opinions by people that haven't even read it.

[Ameer_Hamzah]

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@expatobserver

I <…> propose that Pakistan should immediately stop accepting hundreds of millions of dollars that Aghakhan foundation pours into Pakistan every year.

I gather your sarcasm suggests that by doing all of the above, any given hindu can also claim to be a Muslim as well. hey thanks for the eye opener

Irshad Amman jee hates the Islamic Legislative system for the kind information of all of those open minded muslims claiming to read her book.

Irshad Char Pai (I think that’s what Manji is called in urdu) also claims to be the one advocating muslim women rights for the first time in the history … (as if naoozu billa Prophet:saw: did nothing about it).