Iraqi VP slams Arab states

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Man this is soo sad…

Iraqi VP slams Arab states, especially Jordan and Saudi Arabia
25-03-2003, 12:15

http://www.albawaba.com/news/index.php3?sid=245175&lang=e&dir=news

Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan decried the lack of Arab action in supporting Iraq, hinting that the Arabs should instead impose an oil embargo on the United States and Britain. “Why don’t they stop the flow of oil to the countries of aggression?” he said.

Ramadan, at a news conference on Tuesday, criticized the Arab foreign ministers’ decisions at a meeting of the 22-member Arab League Monday. He lashed out at Arab foreign ministers, saying their call for an “immediate and unconditional withdrawal” of US-led troops attacking Iraq did not go far enough.

“Condemnation is insufficient,” Ramadan said, in the face of an attack he said targetted the whole Arab nation.

He urged Arab people “to step up the demonstrations.” “The Arabs are not Swedes, they should up the tempo,” he said. “We know the Arab people are aware of what their duty and role is.”

He said Iraqis “are steadfast and will defeat the Americans and the British and those allied to them. But we want from them (Arabs) a minimum honorable position before the battle ends with victory, God willing.”

Ramadan said American lives were being lost in vain. “An American soldier is killed or taken prisoner. for what? Is it really for the sake of the American people, for the sake of defending the land of America and its independence?” he asked.

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“Is Iraq threatening America from thousands of miles away? Bush’s talk can only bring ridicule in the world.” **

Ramadan criticized Jordan and said it was Amman which halted the import of Iraqi oil and it was not Iraq’s decision. He also criticized Saudi Arabia, without naming it, saying “they are making up by pumping additional oil in the world so that the world will not be concerned.”

He also accused some Arab intelligence services of giving information about Iraqi sites that were recently targeted and even providing scouts to guide the attacks.

Ramadan described U.S. and British leaders as “liars” for saying that coalition troops were closing in on Baghdad. “On the sixth day, they have not entered any Iraqi village.” (Albawaba.com)

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i agree with him completely, he is absolutely right. All countries should be completely opposing this invasion.

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Naida this is what brings me to tears, look at the damn arab leaders, all silent? They are watching Iraq once the center of the Muslim world go up in flames, its most famous landmarks being destoryed :teary3:

:kaboom: ** Arab Leaders ** :rocket:

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While I agree with what he said, he wasn't addressing the Arab govts with this.. He knows their hands are tied. Thing is, give the message to the Arab on the street and he may be able to convince his government that their interests lie at home and not across the seas.

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They’re probably scared that they will be next?

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Saudis Make Peace Proposal to U.S., Iraq, Yahoo News, 25 March 2003

Saudi Arabia has contacted the United States and Iraq with a peace proposal, the kingdom’s foreign minister told reporters Tuesday. He said he was awaiting a response.

Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal, asked at a news conference whether Saudi Arabia had been in direct contact with the United States and Iraq in an effort to end the war, said: “We have made the proposal and we are waiting for a positive response.”

He did not describe the proposal. “I don’t want to say we were rebuffed because we were not rebuffed, but nor were we given authorization that they’re going with it,” he said.

The Saudi government has quietly aided the U.S. war effort, even while anti-war and anti-U.S. sentiment simmers among its citizens. The kingdom fears a backlash from extremists. Weeks ago, Saudi Arabia discreetly floated the idea that Saddam Hussein should go into exile. It also presented to Western powers the idea of offering amnesty to all but the tight circle around Saddam in the hopes that senior generals would overthrow him.

…] “We’ll be knocking on all doors to bring peace,” Saud said Tuesday. “It’s too important to leave to just the gods of war to determine where this thing ends.”

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i agree with him completely, he is absolutely right. All countries should be completely opposing this invasion.
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Well Nadia I honestly don’t see any difference between Taliban harboring Bin laden and all these Arab states providing safe haven and all kind of support for Bush and his allies. They are probably forgetting that life is not that long and soon or later they have to depart. Its so practical and despite they are not taking any action but instead totally helping the enemy forces to destroy one of the oldest and glorious Muslim civilization.

It’s just so sad and terrible because they all are one people. They speak one language and the only difference is that they just happen to reside in their own named countries but the truth is that all of them are Arabs and truly belong to one civilization. But then again you have to understand that whatever is happening is because of Saddam’s own spread mess. If you are evil and have executed wicked aggression towards your own people then it’s just so obvious that one day you have to pay the price.

Clearly, this was not the right approach to get rid of him. This is just so illegal, immoral, and unjust. I think it’s just so inhuman to execute such hostility against anyone for any reasons. One thing is for certain that every single Arab leader and nation is directly responsible for the lost lives of Iraqi people. The biggest problem is that (Allah reham karay) they don’t fear Allah anymore and truly have led their nation and people to the wrong direction. Its just so true that if one doesn’t fear Allah and disregard the fact that he/she has to depart one day and has to pay for their actions then I honestly don’t see anything happening soon enough. First and foremost, all these Arab leaders need to act straight and re-consider their role as Muslims among their neighbors and get rid of all the kufar forces that are there to fulfill their own interests.

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anymore news regarding the arab league meeting? or wot is next ?

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They've decided that kosheri isn't that great afterall, the crispy bits don't really taste of much and the pasta's never al dente.

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This is typical of the Arab nations, preaching a hollow unity. I think if the Iraqi regime is toppled then Eygpt, Saudi Arabia & Jordans governments must be democratized, no I am not talking about MORE US invasions, rather hoping for a populist revolt. The question is: Does the Arab 'street' have the guts to pull it off?

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This is typical of the Arab nations, preaching a hollow unity. I think if the Iraqi regime is toppled then Eygpt, Saudi Arabia & Jordans governments must be democratized, no I am not talking about MORE US invasions, rather hoping for a populist revolt. The question is: Does the Arab 'street' have the guts to pull it off?
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There is a problem with that theory.. If teh arabs topple their regimes and go for democracy and if the "democratically elected govts" do not toe the US line they will be labbled "terrorist, axis of evil" ... Now why does it reminds me of Algeria now thats what I call democracy in action....

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There is a problem with that theory.. If teh arabs topple their regimes and go for democracy and if the "democratically elected govts" do not toe the US line they will be labbled "terrorist, axis of evil" ... Now why does it reminds me of Algeria now thats what I call democracy in action....
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man i agree with you

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There is a problem with that theory.. If teh arabs topple their regimes and go for democracy and if the "democratically elected govts" do not toe the US line they will be labbled "terrorist, axis of evil" ... Now why does it reminds me of Algeria now thats what I call democracy in action....
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So? If the US plans on declaring war on all of the middle east (minus Israel ofcourse) atleast the Americas "will be showing there cards" :D

Let's take an example of Iran: Axis of Evil: Yes, Terrorist : Yes. Does the labels bother them? NO! and they shouldnt because saying that Arabs should not topple their regimes to enact (possibly) anti- US administrations, is conceding (bowing?) to the power of the US. Since when did the US become judge, jury, and executioner that Arabs and other Middle Easterners are so afraid of pleasing Amrika.

In all likelihood, democratic Arab states will elect Islamist a la FIS (Algeria), but it still will be democracy and healthier than what the situation is. Average Arabs not only feel betrayed by their leaders but also helpless in the world. Many Pakistanis were afraid that MMA's rise will somehow ruin the country, but that has not happened, because the protests of the street have been converted into heated discussions in the assembly. Rather than having protests from Lebanon to Tunisia, which will not change their countries policies anways, the people must strive to topple their corrupt, myopic regimes that have caused the Arabs and Muslims for so long!