Iraqi informer angered by treatment of POW

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Posted on Thu, Apr. 03, 2003

Iraqi informer angered by treatment of POW
By JUAN O. TAMAYO
Knight Ridder Newspapers

Sgt. L. A. SALINAS, U.S. Marine Corps.

Members of the Iraqi family that provided vital information in the rescue of prisoner of war Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch.

MARINE COMBAT HEADQUARTERS, Iraq - The Iraqi man who tipped U.S. Marines to the location of American POW Jessica Lynch said Thursday he did so after he saw her Iraqi captor slap her twice as she lay wounded in a hospital.

“A person, no matter his nationality, is a human being,” the tipster, a 32-year-old lawyer whose wife was a nurse at the hospital, said in an interview at Marines’ headquarters, where he, his wife and daughter are being treated as heroes and guests of honor.

“He is an extremely courageous man who should serve as an inspiration to all of us to do the right thing,” said Lt. Col. Rick Long, spokesman for the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force.

After he saw Lynch slapped, the lawyer slipped into her room at the Saddam Hospital in Nasiriyah and told her, “Don’t worry.” Then he walked six miles to the nearest U.S. Marines and told them where she was.

He later returned to the hospital, at the request of U.S. commanders, to map the facility and count how many Saddam Hussein loyalists were there.

A U.S. commando force whose name remains secret rescued Lynch early Wednesday local time. She was taken Thursday to Germany for treatment of injuries she suffered when she was captured.

The lawyer, whose first name is Mohammed and who asked that his last name not be published, smiled between every sentence as he recounted in broken but expressive English how he helped the Americans. He learned English at Basra University.

Wearing Marine hand-me-downs after fleeing with only the clothes on their backs, Mohammed, his wife Iman, 32, a nurse at Saddam Hospital, and 6-year-old daughter Abir, seemed surprisingly cheerful for a family on the run.

Grateful Leathernecks showered them with Marine unit patches, a commemorative coin and an American flag on their way to a refugee center near the port of Umm Qsar, where they hope to ride out the war.

“I love America. I like America. Why, I don’t know,” Mohammed said as he recounted the critical role he played in Lynch’s rescue.

Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has long repressed Iraq’s people with such a brutal grip that even with American troops at the gates to Baghdad many refuse to rise up against him out of fear that he will outlast the Americans.

But Mohammed’s tale is one of a man who didn’t like what he saw when he walked into the Saddam Hospital last Friday to visit his wife and was told by a doctor friend that an American woman POW was in the emergency ward.

The friend walked him to the ground-floor ward, taken over by the feared Saddam Fedayeen at the start of the war, and past a window where he saw Lynch, an Army private first class captured after her convoy became lost near Nasiriyah in the opening days of the war.

Her head was bandaged, her right arm was in a sling over a white blanket and she had what Mohammed thought was a gunshot wound to a leg. But her real problem then was the black-uniformed Fedayeen commander who everyone addressed as “colonel.”

The man slapped her, Mohammed said. “One, two,” he added, making single slapping and back slap motions with his right hand. She was very brave, he recalled.

“My heart cut,” Mohammed added, meaning stopped, putting his hand over his chest and grimacing. “There, I have decided to go to Americans to give them important information about the woman prisoner.”

He walked into her room with his doctor friend. “I said ‘Good morning.’ She thought I was a doctor. I say, ‘Don’t worry.’ She smiled,” he recalled.

Doctors treating Lynch wanted to amputate her leg, Mohammed said, but his doctor friend persuaded them not to. His friend, he said, “hates Saddam Hussein and hates security of Saddam Hussein.”

Mohammed said he told his wife to take their daughter to his father’s house for safety, and then set off on foot to find the American troops he had heard were occupying the edges of Nasiriyah.

“This was very dangerous for me because American soldiers shoot,” he said, throwing up his hands in the air to show how he carefully approached what turned out to be the U.S. Marines.

He told them about the woman prisoner, and about a U.S. military uniform he had also seen, presumably of a U.S. soldier killed in the fighting in and around Nasiriyah, some of the heaviest of the war.

They asked him to return to the six-story, 234-bed hospital to gather information on its layout, its hallways, stairways and doors, its basement and whether a helicopter could land on its roof.

He walked back, with no taxis in sight, even as U.S. jets bombed parts of the city of more than 500,000 people. “Boom, boom. I walked under bombs. Fire, Fire,” Mohammed recalled.

He did the same thing the next day to report back to the Marines.

There were 41 Fedayeen based at the hospital, with four guarding Lynch’s room in civilian clothes but armed with AK-47 assault rifles and carrying radios.

“I drew them a map. I drew them five maps,” he said, plainly relishing his cloak-and-dagger missions into the heart of Saddam’s terror network.

Fedayeen raided his house the next day, he said, taking away all his possessions and even his car, a Russian-made Muscovitch Brazilia 680. He said a neighbor was shot and her body dragged through the streets just for waving at a U.S. helicopter.

“Very bad people,” he said. “There is no kindness in my heart for them.”

He got his family out of Nasiriyah on Tuesday night, hours before a task force of U.S. commandos rescued Lynch in a raid so noteworthy that the U.S. Central Command in Qatar called a 4:30 a.m. news conference to announce it.

Four American journalists who have had regular access to the Marines’ combat operations center in southern Iraq were asked to stay away from the COC as the rescue operation was getting underway.

Mohammed and his family are now officially “temporary refugees.”

After showers, Mohammed put on an oversized green Marine pullover, his wife put on one of the gray T-shirts that MTV donated to the Leathernecks and his daughter was covered to her knees in a green T-shirt from a Marine chemical warfare unit.

But Mohammed did not appear despondent, as his wife smiled and stayed shyly in the background and daughter Abir played with a neon-green illumination stick given to her by a Marine.

“I am very happy,” he said, adding that his wife wants to work in a hospital helping Americans and that he is eager to help the Marines any way he can until he can return home to Nasiriyah and resume his normal life.

“In future, when Saddam Hussein down, I will go back to Nasiriyah because my house and office are there,” he said. As for the Fedayeen, he said, “when Saddam Hussein down, I sure they go away.”

“Believe me, not only I, all the people of Iraq, not the people in the government, like Americans,” Mohammed said. “They want to help the Americans, but they are all afraid.”

The way just one incident like this was covered in the media reeks of propaganda..

Washington Post portrays her as a valiant warrior (she was a supply clerk :rolleyes: )

She was fighting to death

*Lynch, a 19-year-old supply clerk, continued firing at the Iraqis even after she sustained multiple gunshot wounds and watched several other soldiers in her unit die around her in fighting March 23, one official said.

Lynch was also stabbed when Iraqi forces closed in on her position, the official said, noting that initial intelligence reports indicated that she had been stabbed to death. No official gave any indication yesterday, however, that Lynch’s wounds had been life-threatening.*

Read the above and you’re already hooraying, waving the red white and blue and demanding a medal of honour for our brave girl.

But wait…

POW father denies daughter shot, stabbed

*The father of rescued POW Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch said Thursday she was in great spirits following her first surgery and said she had not been shot or stabbed during her ordeal.

“We have heard and seen reports that she had multiple gunshot wounds and a knife stabbing. The doctor has not seen any of this," Gregory
Lynch Sr. said. "There’s no entry (wounds) whatsoever.
”*

Okaaaay.. and what did actually happen to her?

*Lynch said his 19-year-old daughter, who is at a military hospital in Germany, had surgery on her back.

“She didn’t have any feeling in her feet,” he said outside his home in this West Virginia hamlet. More surgery was scheduled for Friday on her fractured legs and right arm, he said*

Hmmmmm ah well.. the public needs to be fed these heroic stories .. brave damsel in distress needing knights in shining gas masks rescuing her from evil Eye-Raqees.

PA..what difference does it make what her role was? Everyone in uniform has equal role to play, whether a supply clerk or a General. Besides she was a POW, and the reason she was termed Warrior is because she resisted her capture to the end. Only a low-esteemed soldier will slap a wounded prisoner. And the US forces don’t leave their comrades behind, captured to killed. That is a skill some other Armies are known for (you can figure out which ones). Some of them actually refuse to claim back their dead. Not the Americans.

And just wait, when the war is over, Jane Rambo here will be on every single talk show out there telling her story. :rolleyes:

Slapping??? I am sorry, when the US GIs were informed at the hospital in Iraq that she was being trearted just like anyother patient. She was evaluated and said that she was well treated and well fed...no mention of slaps there.....may be a desert mirage?

Mufakkar,

So far they have found her with a broken foot, broken ankle, two broken legs, a broken back and a broken arm. How do you suppose that happened? Bad slip off a bed pan?

Is it probable that she was also slapped?

You can slap a person to all that? Look it is too early to say. It is a battle field...can you say how she was caught? Was her vehicle attacked by RPGs? Was thre an artillery barrage? Maybe her vehicle overturned and thats how she got those injuries....maybe she was tortured...but its too ealry to say. I am only telling you what I have heard so far courtesy NPR and there was no mention of slapping. They however did say that she was well treated and well fed.

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*Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
So far they have found her with a broken foot, broken ankle, two broken legs, a broken back and a broken arm. How do you suppose that happened? Bad slip off a bed pan?

Is it probable that she was also slapped?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding that a combatant is fair game till they are not captured. So, quite possibly all the injuries (gun shots?) happened before she was captured. According to Geneva Convention, it seems once they are caught, then they have to be treated in a certain way. Then you can not kill them.

Otherwise, this morning on radio I was listening to the report that Republican Guards are holding up in underground holes and the US military, instead of asking them to come out or engaging them in gun-fight is merely driving the tanks on top of the hole to crush them alive in there. I don't see anyone saying it ain't fair.

This is war going on, goddammit. What do you expect? Slapping is the least of their worries. Ofcourse, slapping an un-armed injured POW is pathetic (if it happened) especially if it is female supply clerk, but she went into this war knowing fully well the risks involved. She could have died before she was caught. And thats war for you.

ps. One thing is certain. We will see this whole thing in all the Hollywood glory before two years are out. I suggest Heather Graham or Denise Richards.

This one’s for you NYA..

US forces don’t leave their comrades behind

Let us all understand one thing: Despite what the CentCom spokesman says, we sit here today in cushy America while literally hundreds of U.S. POWs sit inside Vietnam and Laos wondering, “Why has America abandoned me?”

"You can slap a person to all that?"

No you cannot.

If she had a bullet hole, or some other combat related injury I might believe that it happened on a battlefield, but the Iraqi's love of torture is well documented.

Were it not for the fact that others in her unit were shown with bullet holes square in the middle of thier foreheads, (thanks to Al-Jazeera on the web) I might entertain some belief that these injuries were the result of a vehicle accident, or combat.

I think we all have our guesses as to how these injuries were obtained. Time will tell.

Then whats the argument about? People here believe that the American government and troops are capable of some underhanded tricks and you believe (not without reason) that Iraqis are capable of the samething. Its friday, Lets all go for some chai and maybe we can discuss other things.

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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
Otherwise, this morning on radio I was listening to the report that Republican Guards are holding up in underground holes and the US military, instead of asking them to come out or engaging them in gun-fight is merely driving the tanks on top of the hole to crush them alive in there. I don't see anyone saying it ain't fair.
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Faisal Bhai, Just wondering - where did you hear this? Was it a local radio station ? Just asking because i haven't come across this yet. Would be interested to read a bit more about this.

I was listening to CNN Headline News which is carried by a local radio station here. It was a report from one of their embedded reporters, probably.

^ Acha. :~)

Thank you very much.