Ofcourse they are friends,we assist them in many ways,but still ,I can’t stop myself from starting this thread.
Iran criticises US over India deal -DAWN - Top Stories; August 03, 2008
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Hopefully they won't be crying for too long because they too are in the process of developing their own Nuclear Energy. Then Iran and Pakistan can form a pact with China. China still needs some time to further develop its Nuclear capabilities, for which it is dependant on NSG. After that is sorted, it can yield and supply to Pakistan w/out much red tape (senate/congress/pseudo-fears/pre-conditions, etc.)
Just some food for thought :D
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What I believe is....
Iran won't be treated in to an elite panel ,as India has been treated to .Iran's nuclear pans have been well checked and criticized by Israel and U.S.
If Iran forms a pact with Pak-China nexus,then India will benifit more out of it.That time U.S will be left out with only one option,that's India, and only god can determine where that will take India to.One can even expect a NATO expansion to Indian subcontinent. If such a situation arises,Indians will be the happiest people on earth.
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I'm not so sure about that, gesto.
With China rising as the possible new contender to face off against US for supremacy, if Iran (the 4th largest Oil producer in the World), and Pakistan (only Muslim nation with nukes) draws closer to China. There will be others who will be drawn into this bloc-alliance. India in my opinion, has adopted the best policies so far in maintaining a open-closed relationship with every nation.
It would be best for India to maintain that so it is not in a position to choose between either or. No doubt USA would flood India with all its got in order to put a check on China. But, does India want to go that route? Wouldn't china be a better ally?
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yes,India for sometimes has been following an open-close diplomatic strategy but............
China cannever negate Inida.Even the 1962 ar,about which some peole talk here to undermne India military,is hardly spoken of in China.China,at the last moments of the war offered an unconditional ceasefire and withdrew from it's occupied positions after the United states offered India weapons and airsupplies.Indeed U.S had sent weapons to India and also airsorties. China would never want such a situation to arise again,especially in the context of a growing India-U.S relationships.
Moreover,Iran ,I doubt will ever get in to a nexus ,which is anti-India considering Tehrans close raltionship with Newdelhi.Any Iran-Pak nexus will make cries in Arab world ,where SUNNI dominance is more interested in isoating ****e Iran.
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interesting.
But the rate at which USA is lighting fire to muslims (even those bad ones that do horrible things in the name of Islam), i’m not too hopeful about the favoriteness of USA among arab nations. A time may come when Iran and Arabs are ready to form alliance to protect themselves… They’ve got the resources (Oil/Natural Gas, etc). Just lack unity on a few issues.
too many possibilities…
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^ Yes,in international level there are many rooms for predictions.
True that in Arab world,there is a growing resentiment against U.S.But surely,this has been going on for more than 20 yeras and U.S has not brought in much considerable changes to it's policy towards midde east.And moreover,what I feel is ,no matter how much Arabs protest,the rulers always favour U.S and that's more than enough for U.S to keep its presence actively in the region.
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News from Tehran Brothers
http://www.iran-daily.com/1387/3187/html/national.htm#s322668
Let the silly Iranians cry all they want, they're two faced liars who would stab anyone in the back the second they saw an advantage for them in doing so. I would have proffered Bush to have sorted Iran out whilst he was in office, but oh well.
The nuclear deal with India is totally different and can not even be compared with the situation in Iran.
Iran : A revolutionary supremacist regime that wants to kill innocent people (or at least that is how their leader talks). Hostile towards many countries and can not be trusted with nuclear power.
India : Mostly the complete opposite.
Even Iranian exiles who live in the west are a fanatic, but towards the left wing. Oh and their attitude towards people of the subcontinent is distasteful too.
Also, no matter how anti-US the Arabs get, they will still be more anti-Iran, as they sunni wahabis of Saudi are very weary of Shia Iran.
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USA's hawkish positions againt Iran are fast changing and I don't think India has see chose between the two. Even now India has supported Iran on certain things even while criticizing them on others. Bush and Ahmadinejad are not USA and Iran.
As to China, India will never trust them. But both will continue circling the ring wearliy watching each other without ever throwing a punch.
Pakistan at some point will have to trade its Kashmir ambitions for economic and energy security - probably some time between the next Iranian revolution and the next Chinese revolution.
Pakistan at some point will have to trade its Kashmir ambitions for economic and energy security - probably some time between the next Iranian revolution and the next Chinese revolution.
Thats a pretty bold statement, or assumption I should say.
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Tehran should remember one thing that David's star planes once crossed Baghdad air boundaries.
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Infact I see a similar action imminent once Iran bolds it's one more stance.
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The only way I see Iran moving forward to critical steps of weaponizing is if they make peace with Israel. Based on dumb statements of annikilation by Ahmedinejad, Israelis are ready to wipe out all known facilities but are being held back by the USA> USA has to hold them back atleast until Bush leaves because the term "Bush's war" has acquired a terrible meaning.
Once Bush leaves it is a new game
VetriVelan:
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Neither Israel nor Americans can do it.
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Israel can do it in a matter of hours.I think a military action against Iran is imminent,regardless Mr.Bush's exit.It may be done before that.
Israel can not do it without America’s approval, which it does not have right now. Talking about ‘hours’ and days is funny. Even America can attack in a matter of hours. So what’s the point?
A senior U.S. strategic analyst says the Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, sent Israel an unequivocal message stating that Israel does not have a “green light” from the U.S. to attack Iranian nuclear facilities.
Zionists in apartheid regime and America have been wanting to attack for long time. Just search our own Zionist, mercenary2k’s posts. He was calling attack on Iran ‘imminent’ even last year. So I don’t know what the news when one says the attack is ‘imminent’.
If possible, America will attack Iran ‘in a matter of hours’. It’s so obvious that it should not even be discussed. And if America or Israel are not attacking Iran today then it is because they just can’t do that.
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Israel can easily wipe out Iran's nuclear facility. The political will is not there because of the bloc from USA.
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^Personally, i'm not that impressed or ambitious about Israeli aims. Yes, they have the ability to inflict severe harm to Iran, may even be successful at taking out one or two of the Nuclear Sites; however, Israel will not succeed in totally eliminating Iranian Nuke Sites because Iran has built them and spread them out strategically keeping the invasion or a possible bombardment in mind.
So, if Israel fails to completely take out Iranian Nuclear Sites, it will have played the wild card. Iran will retaliate directly and through proxy use (Hazbollah of Lebanon and Syrian Anti-Israel elements). Not to mention it'll be another pinch to the Israel/US relationship as well as the relationship between US and other heavyweights like Russia.
Russia and other nations have an accord with Iran to protect each other from attacks. So the retaliation might become costly.
I hope no such thing occurs because its sphere will extend far and beyond and may engulf the entire region into utter chaos and violence.
You are the only one who says that. Everyone else, including Israelis, know that it is not possible to halt Iran’s nuclear drive, if they really want to have it. The best they can do is to delay it.
http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm
Such an attack would likely embolden and enhance Iran’s nuclear prospects in the long term. In the absence of an Iranian nuclear weapon program, which IAEA inspectors have yet to find, a preemptive attack by the United States or Israel would provide Iran with the impetus and justification to pursue a full blown covert nuclear deterrent program, without the inconvenience of IAEA inspections. Such an attack would likely be seen as an act of aggression not only by Iran but most of the international community, and only serve to weaken any diplomatic coalition currently available against Iran.
Even if Natanz, Arak, and Bushehr were destroyed in a preemptive strike, Iran probably has duplicate equipment that can be activated and has the know-how to produce more, to pursue a more vigorous and unabated nuclear weapons program in the long term.