Okey folks, tell me something.
Should Pakistan give tacit support to IRan to go nuclear, considering
its another Muslim nation.
Pakistan’s program will not be then the focus of all attention
3)THere is a need for a Muslim country to develop nuclear weapons in West Asia to counter the Israeli threat.
What do we lose if we support Iran. Do you think that Pakistan should under no circumstances support the Iranian program ( i know that conspiracy and black market and Dr. Qadeers link, let s not go there) and by that I mean opose Iran’s taking the nuclear path openly, so that we can remain the only Muslim country to posses nuclear weapons.
How would Pakistan benefit or lose if ever Iran decides to build nuclear weapons in defiance of NPT ( we already know that Iran despite being a signatory is opposed to some major provisions of NPT and considers it discrminatory).NPT would become void in that case I believe and Iranian or for that matter North Korean nuclear tests ( if ever in the future) would certainly have a domino affect on the threshold nuclear states.
This is a hypothetical question and I would like you all to please list how do you view this whole scenario and its implications for Pakistan in the long run.
Abdali , that i know. Ok lets say whenever they deicide to do that, what would be the implications of Iran becoming a nuclear power for Pakistan in terms of importance, status???
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This is a hypothetical question and I would like you all to please list how do you view this whole scenario and its implications for Pakistan in the long run.
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Why should we? They have no dignity in the first place, remember what they did, not too long ago in the face of international pressure? Secondly, Pakistan has nuclear capability because of some special circumstances, some committed people, and outside help. Iran has neither three. If they had developed anything, they would have been jumping up and down. Lastly, relations between the two countries have never been so good that we start offering them help with something that could earn us international discontent. Another reason why Iran never truely persued a program, and we did was our proximity and relations with India, we had to do it to carry out a balance of power. Iran does not face any such immediate threats from its neighbours.
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This way the kuffar government of amerikka, Britian, france etc will think twice before thinking of bombing or invading muslim lands.
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But, noble brother, the Kuffaar have invaded our lands. Don't you see "King" Fahad in place and in charge of the Haramayn? Don't you see Qadhafi? Mubarak? 'Abdullah? Musharraf?
All of them are invading our lands and have occupied them.
But, noble brother, the Kuffaar have invaded our lands. Don't you see "King" Fahad in place and in charge of the Haramayn? Don't you see Qadhafi? Mubarak? 'Abdullah? Musharraf?
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you are right but i was talking about when there is a sincere leadership that cares for the affairs of its people they should deploy nuclear weapons immediatly as a defense weapon against any sort of aggression that colonial country like Britain or US may think of doing.
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all muslim countries should get nuclear weapons immediatly as a deterrent and defence mechanism.
This way the kuffar government of amerikka, Britian, france etc will think twice before thinking of bombing or invading muslim lands.
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There is no need of everyone making bomb, reach to such defence pact and provide nuclear defence to all members of OIC. the money can be spent on welfare of poor islamic counteries and we can share all the same deterent.
form a OIC defence strategic alliance, that will be good way forward, then no body will not dare to attack anyone of us
Obviously most of the contributors to this threads have difficulty envisaging the difference between Pakistan's interest and Iran's interests. In fact most of you seem to accept it as a given that Iran is a muslim country and it has the same interests as Pakistan. This is sheer folly.
So suno bachh log:
India, Iran and Pakistan are currently grappling with a deal that Iran and Pakistan want. This is about a direct gas line from Iran to India thru Pakistan. If such a pipeline is built, Iran sells billions of dollars worth of gas to India for which currently have no market. Pakistan gets billions of dollars in construction costs as most of the pipeline is thru Pakistan. Pakistan collect $600 million per year as transport fee. India gets the gas about $300 million a year cheaper than anywhere else. India is understandably worried about the line going thru Pakistan. What happens if there is another India Pakistan war? Pakistan will just cut off the line. Iran says they will guranatee that this will never happen.
Ok so Pakistan provides Iran with a nuke. A skirmish breaks out between India and Pakistan and Pakistan promptly shuts off the gas line on which India now depends heavily. How do you think a nuclear capable Iran, who now stands to lose billions of dollars a year will react?
Any of you thought about this before handing a nuke to Iran? Muslim bro or not, Iran is not afraid of Pakistan and is ruthless enough to do what is best for them and not for Pakistan.
Thanks Arvind, I also wanted to discuss this issue keeping in mind the perceived differences between Iran and Pakistan and the divergent in view points and policies with regard to a host of issues. Irans and India 's position with regard to the NPT is also not much different.
Just because its another muslim country does not mean we are or we should support it. We need to weigh our options. I know Iran has again started its program and has notified many countrries so its nothing where Pakistan can do much. But some questions like do we want Iran to claim the position that we enjoy ( according to many people) as the sole nuclear power in the Muslim world would be interesting to deal with. Another Muslim country going nuclear( do we want to think on those lines???)
There is no need of everyone making bomb, reach to such defence pact and provide nuclear defence to all members of OIC. the money can be spent on welfare of poor islamic counteries and we can share all the same deterent.
form a OIC defence strategic alliance, that will be good way forward, then no body will not dare to attack anyone of us
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It is defiently a good idea. But OIC i don't think they can do anything. OIC is not solid organisation the links are very fragile many people do not think this organisation is actually helping the muslims most people think it is an obstacle to unity rather than a vehicle for unity.
The unity must be made with much stronger link. As one Islamic state they can have this deterent in the state to protect it in this way.