Iran rubbishes claims of Al Qaida links, demands proof from US (merged)

When the American’s make such stupid and unbelievable claims against Glorious Iran, they should back them up.

Tehran Demands Proof al-Qaida in Iran

Iran demanded on Thursday that Washington prove its claims that Tehran harbors al-Qaida terrorists and accused Osama bin Laden’s network of “threatening” Iranian national interests. Saeed Pourazizi, a close aide to President Mohammad Khatami, said it was Tehran’s policy to crack down on al-Qaida — not support it, as senior Bush administration officials suggested a day earlier. Al-Qaida “is a terrorist group threatening Iran’s interests. Its extremist interpretation of Islam contradicts the Islamic democracy Iran is trying to promote. There is no commonality of anything between us,” Pourazizi told The Associated Press. Iran is a Shiite Muslim-dominated state, while bin Laden’s al-Qaida group preaches a hard-line interpretation of the Sunni sect of the Islamic faith. On Wednesday, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and State Department spokesman Richard Boucher accused Iran of harboring al-Qaida members. “There’s no question but that there have been and are today senior al-Qaida leaders in Iran, and they are busy,” Rumsfeld said. His comments came as U.S. officials raised the domestic security alert level after a surge in threatening communications and suicide bombings in Morocco and Saudi Arabia. The FBI also said attacks were “likely” against U.S. and Western interests abroad.

U.S. officials have identified five senior al-Qaida operatives who they believe have been to Iran since the U.S.-led coalition ousted the Taliban from neighboring Afghanistan. They include Saif al-Adil, an Egyptian described as bin Laden’s security and intelligence chief; Saad bin Laden, one of the al-Qaida leader’s sons; and Abu Musab Zarqawi, the operational commander who Washington accuses of ties to Saddam Hussein. “If the United States is serious and has any evidence on the presence of al-Qaida in Iran, then they should make their evidence available to us, which will help us identify and track down alleged members of the group,” Pourazizi said. Pourazizi said Iran supported America’s campaign to fight al-Qaida, but accused Washington of having a “long term” strategy to pressure Tehran. Anoush Ehteshami, an international relations professor and director of Middle East and Islamic Studies at Durham University in Britain, said Iran’s religious differences with al-Qaida make cooperation unlikely. The U.S. claim “is part of a continued campaign of pressure on Iran … and it aims at securing concessions from Iran, including noninterference in Iraq and in the Middle East peace process,” he said in an interview.

I think Iraq moved part of its WMD arsenal to Iran and Syria.

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Not just WMD, but al Qaeda has also shifted to Iran now. Infact, pretty soon we will start to hear that Iran is on the verge of developing a horrendously effective nuclear arsenal that can wipe the entire world out in a matter of seconds. Hence it must be invaded… in order to disarm the weapons that we won’t be able to find.

US hunts al-Qaeda’s new terror chief, Jason Burke
The Observer, 25 May 2003

Y'know.. I can't wait until one of these eeeevil regimes transports some nastiness to New Zealand.. I've always wanted to take a trip there, figure I can save on airfare if the draft gets reinstated.. maybe even get some discounted souvenirs.

And how many times has overt social engineering worked?? Regime change via Radio Free America? Let's ask the Hungarians and a few others about that one...

Hee Hee "regime change in iran", it was coming. Not surprised at all.
Bush has till Nov. 2004 to accomplish this and get relected.

The Pentagon is now explicitly committed to a policy of 'regime change' in Iran involving the transmission of anti-government broadcasts and possible support for the Iraq-based armed opposition group, the Mujahidin-e Khalq.

No wonder the US military came to a "ceasefire" agreement with the Mujahadin-e-Khalq terrorists. For years this terrorist group has been based in Iraq, supported by the Saddam regime, and launched numerous terrorist attacks against Iran. Now the US is supporting these foreign based terrorists to destablise glorious Iran - that is the height of double standards, and once again demonstrates that the US will support terrorists when it suits their aims. The US is taking over where Saddam left off. Shameful

Iran has as much links with Al-Qaida as Saddam has with WMD. US is losing credibility fast.

The tribal elders of a village in Zambia have ruled that humanity is useless and we must all kill ourselves… I think we better respect their decision.. after you.

Lawmakers Say Remove Iran’s Rulers](Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More)

How in the hell did we so severely lose our concept of jurisdiction??

…y’know, I just tried writing some smart stuff about this.. I can’t. It all comes back to a one word answer: stupidity. I can’t use my own words so I’ll take those of others:

“The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”
– Louis Brandeis

“A wise man does not try to hurry history. Many wars have been avoided by patience, and many have been precipitated by reckless haste.”
– Adlai Stevenson

“For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong.”
– H. L. Mencken

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true.”
– Demosthenes

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All of them are indeed relevant. Perhaps, in my opinion, this one is the most accurate.
Perhaps most likely, i think, it applies to all of us.

Unless i am mistaken, i think Blair has already stated publically that the UK would not support military action against Iran. Some convincing pretext will have to be discovered (or consent will have to be manufactured). This is where al Qaeda would play the integral role - foster dubious links between some vague group based in Iran and bin Laden; (God Forbid if there was a terrorist attack in the UK, that would be linked with Iran so as to convince Blair to come onboard). But it is doubtful IMO the US admin. would undertake any tangible action on this until subsequent to Dubya’s getting re-elected. Until then, they may prefer to show they are focusing on domestic issues.

Assad Doubts Existence of al-Qaida, 25 May 2003

Washington Accuses Tehran of harboring terrorists

Today I was driving back home from work and I was listening to 1010 news. Here is what I hear “ Washington accuses Tehran of harboring terrorists and planning to put sanctions and a possible Non-Military action on Iran BUT if needed MORE can be expected as American plan to get to the ROOTS of Terrorism.” After listening to this crap I just turned off the radio and I just couldn’t stop myself thinking that what kind of morons Americans are ? i mean have the really gone mad? This just pisses me off big time and boils my blood . But on the other end Syrian President brings an awesome point hear me out He said “

**`Is there really an entity called al-Qaida? Was it in Afghanistan? Does it exist now?‘’ Assad asked, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Anba.

Osama bin Laden, the Saudi-born Islamic extremist who heads al-Qaida, cannot talk on the phone or use the Internet, but he can direct communications to the four corners of the world?'' Assad said. This is illogical.‘’**

And I would kiss him for saying this . at least somebody had the balls to say this upfront. I wish our PRINCES and our SO CALLED LEADERS IN MAKKAH HAD THE BALLS TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

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America is happy with Syria and the Arab countries when Israel is happy with them,'' he said. Israel is a state that occupies our land and we are required to take its interests into account? What logic is that? We say America is the effective power, our relationship should be direct with it.‘’**

May Allah s.w.t bless him and his country with all the power. (ameen)

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saying that Iran is harboring al qaida members is saying that I am going to marry a wahabi girl lol give me a break

^ OhhoOOOHHHOOOOO

Untill u muslims keep on diffrenciating between different sects of islam ,.......

He is wahabi
....................I am shia............

...............................................He is sunni...............

etc etc ......

You all will have "daisy cutters" falling on ur twisted minds with the following words engraved on it

"From USA with love"

^ I think you have opened up my eyes..any wahabi girl around? :wave:

More appropriate would be From Israel via America

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Good one

More on the growing hypocrisy of the US government, as it is now considering using the Mujaheddin-e Khalq (MEK) terrorists to destabilise Iran. This is even though the US State Department lists MEK as a terrorist group, one which the Saddam regime gave sanctuary and support to.

Some Pentagon officials, impressed by the military discipline and equipment of the thousands of MEK troops, began to envision them as a potential military force for use against Tehran, much like the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan. But the MEK is also listed as a terrorist organization by the State Department. Under pressure from State, the White House earlier this month ordered the Pentagon to disarm the MEK troops – a decision that was secretly conveyed by U.S. officials to Iranian representatives at a meeting in Geneva on May 3.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35772-2003May24.html

Chalo hum phir bach gaye .......

I hope we are not third in the list .:)

Iran rebuts US allegations, The Guardian, 28 May 2003

Iran today denied US allegations that it had a secret nuclear programme or harboured al-Qaida terrorists, and called for a popularly elected government in Iraq at the earliest opportunity. The Iranian president, Mohammad Khatami, said today that the Arab world expected an elected government in Iraq to replace the occupying powers.

His comments could be seen as a response to rhetoric from the US secretary of defence, Donald Rumsfeld, who yesterday warned Iran not to support calls for a theocracy in Iraq. Some among Iraq’s Shia majority have already called for theocracy much like the one in place in Iran to replace Saddam Hussein’s regime.

Mr Rumsfeld said yesterday that the occupying forces in Iraq would not permit some “new form of tyranny” to replace Saddam’s Ba’athist government. “Iran should be on notice that attempts to remake Iraq in Iran’s image will be aggressively put down,” he said. In reply to a question, Mr Rumsfeld said the US administration was debating the most effective way to deal with Iran itself - through the hardliners in charge, through the moderate leaders they tolerate or directly with the Iranian people.

Today Mr Khatami told delegates at the opening session of the Organization of the Islamic Conference that the Islamic world should shun terrorism as well as superpower domination. “Our world has suffered from both violent dogmatists and arrogant powers,” Mr Khatami said. “On the one side, terrorism and fanaticism have distorted religion and, on the other side, the resort to the use of force, domination and unilateralism have made a mockery of concepts such as freedom and democracy.”

“It is incumbent on us, in the name of Islam, to keep a distance from these two frightening faces: terrorism and unilateralism,” he added.

The US believes terrorists based in Iran may have played a role in the suicide bombings in the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh earlier this month. White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said yesterday that recent arrests by Iranian officials of suspected al-Qaida operatives had not convinced the US that Iran was taking all the steps necessary to fight terrorism.

Mr Asefi responded to the Reuters news agency today: “On the contrary, we believe America is not serious about fighting terrorism. It adopts a double standard policy in confronting them which shows its indecision in dealing with terrorists.” Iran claims that the US has not dealt firmly with the Iraq-based People’s Mojahedin militia, a group opposed to Iran’s government, despite the fact that it is listed as a terrorist organisation by the US state department.

Today Iran also denied US claims that is developing nuclear weapons in a secret programme. The US based its accusation on claims by an exiled Iranian opposition group, which said yesterday it had learned of two previously undisclosed nuclear sites related to producing enriched uranium, which could be used in bombs. Iran insists its nuclear programmes are limited to generating electricity. At the OIC meeting, the Iranian foreign minister, Kamal Kharrazi, said the US was not competent to judge his country’s nuclear work.

“The IAEA is the only competent body to supervise activities of member states on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons,” Mr Kharrazi said.

The IAEA inspected the country in February and is due to issue a report next month.

No, it makes perfect sense for Iran to have nuclear reactors in order to sustain their energy needs. After all they sit atop one of the worlds largest oil reserves