Iran - 30th anniversary of revolution - 30 years of economic decline

I think the Iranians already saw what 'gifts' they can get in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Saddam Hussein was ever obedient to USA during the war with Iran. Look where it took him.

The dear old "Mujahideen" are now called something else... now that Russian expansionism is no more a threat.

Burqa doesn't believe in proof. He lives in a fantasy land where children sleep in the same room as "militants".

There is no evidence for this. Another one of your pathetic arguments debunked with much ease.

burqa, how come you haven't answered this wonderful post? Is it because you are unable to?

Pakistan follows your so-called global law. Look whats happening to it. Even with the sanctions removed, Pakistan is still a basket-case.

Inflation … 30 %

Unemployment … 10 %

“If the economic turmoil continues for a year, each Iranian will lose 1,000 dollars – 20 percent of the annual income – meaning that Iranians hurt more than Americans from the economy’s worsening situation,” Saeed Leylaz, an analyst and economist in Tehran, told IPS.

There is no place for critics in the media because they are under immense pressure not to criticise the government. It’s fair to say 99 percent of Iran’s media is dominated by Iran’s national TV, which fully support Ahmadinejad. The reality of the Iranian economy is so bad that in a way people cannot believe it."

“The statistics show that there has been no success for Ahmadinejad. They have spent the money in places that they were not supposed to spend,” said Amouee.

Regarding Ahmadinejad’s new economic reform plan, Amouee said, “The government programme to eliminate energy subsidies will raise inflation to 50 percent.”

ECONOMY-IRAN: From Bad to Worse?

Re: Iran - 30th anniversary of revolution - 30 years of economic decline

Iran is a cesspool!

This article is talking about future problems facing Iran and virtually every economy is facing problems in these days.

The original post talked about last 30 years.

Iran GDP - real growth rate - Economy

United States GDP - real growth rate - Economy

United Kingdom GDP - real growth rate - Economy

Iran GDP - per capita (PPP) - Economy

United States GDP - per capita (PPP) - Economy

United Kingdom GDP - per capita (PPP) - Economy

Over the last 30 years, Iran has been doing better than UK and USA in terms of GDP growth rates and GDP per capita growth rates despite all the sanctions.

The GDP growth is because of rising oil prices !!!! ..... just comapre the inflation and unempolyment rates with these two countries and you will see the true picture ...... by the Euitorial Guinea had a similar (infact better) GDP growth, but it still continues to be a poor African country !!!!!

A quote "He uses statistics as a drunkard uses a lampost, for support, not for illumination."

Do not make claims which you cannot back. The oil prices have actually been FALLING from 1980 to 2000.

Historical Crude Oil Prices Table

And BTW, you cannot compare Euitorial Guinea to Iran because Iran is a big economy (15th largest in the world) and as you said nobody has heard of EG.

GDP (purchasing power parity) - Country Comparison

And BTW, the GDP figures are inflation adjusted.

And BTW, the unemployment is not that bad either.. better than oil-rich-american-obedient countries like Oman, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia.

Unemployment rate - Country Comparison

And BTW, some animals are prone to using lamp post for even better purposes.

The GDP figures for Iran and Pakistan

Iran

1987 ..... $ 127.9 Billion
2007 ...... $ 270.9 Billion

Gdp has doubled in last twenty years

Pakistan

1987 ....... $ 33.4 Billion
2007 ....... $ 143.6 Billion

GDP has gone up four times (& no oil here) !!!!!!

So what growth are you talking about ........ of the $ 270 B ........... almost $70B comes from oil and in 1987 this figure was only $ 10 B !!!!!!

As for your choice of use for a lamp post .... welcome to the "free" world ... you do whatever works for you

Could you provide source to your figures?

GDP under PPP has grown 4 times for both countries.

I have provided you with enough evidence to prove that Iranian economy has not declined over the last 30 years but you are insisting otherwise. I wonder if you wear a burqa as well.

For Pakistan
http://devdata.worldbank.org/AAG/pak_aag.pdf

For Iran
http://devdata.worldbank.org/AAG/irn_aag.pdf

Growth happens in all economies … but the pace of growth in Iran has been slow in last twenty years … which is an indicators that things are not too well there …

Though you haven’t provided any proof about this … but you should be able to get this

Country or AreaPeriodPer Capita GDPIran (Islamic Republic of)1

1975 …1,456
1979 …2,245
1985 …1,528
1989 …1,635
1995 …1,760
1999 …1,664
2004 …2,370
2007 …4,072

This is from United nations statistics … the figures don’t need explanation

United Nations Statistics Division - National Accounts

Re: Iran - 30th anniversary of revolution - 30 years of economic decline

hahahha… you dont get it do you?

These are GDP raw figures and do not adjust for fluctuations in inflation, interest rates and foreign exchange rates. The are not suitable for comparison purposes. GDP adjusted for PPP is the figure you use for intertemporal comparison and comparisons across countries.

Even at constant dollar amounts (adjusting for inflation) GDP growth rates are still better in Iran than USA.

United Nations Statistics Division - National Accounts

United Nations Statistics Division - National Accounts

First you talk about declining economy… i provide growth rates
You compare growth rate with Euitorial Guinea… i compared growth figures with UK and USA and i show you that Iran is actually 15th largest economy of the world and you cannot compare with smallest ones!
Then you talk about rising oil prices … i provide evidence that they have actually been falling
Then you talk about inflation… I provide GDP adjusted for inflation
Then you talk about unemployment… I provide evidence that it is not as bad as most of america-obedient-oil-rich countries
Then you compare the uncompilable GDP figure of Iran and Pakistan… well, what can I say…

No more economics lessons for you. If you have an ounce of self respect left, you should just move on. Otherwise, you’ll remind me of an old urdu saying about 'kuttay ki dum…"

Re: Iran - 30th anniversary of revolution - 30 years of economic decline

Wow. Impressive work Omair. Solid spot on analysis.

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I think you forgot to see what topic we are discussing … if you see the figures … they show that last 30 years have not been good for Iran . The per capita income declined after the change in government… period … the per capita income in 1979 was not achived till

So your comparison with US (a developed economy hence a slower growth rate) does not count for much … in any case the years for comparison are the ones which had seen the hightes oil prices …just keep the lampost in focus !!!

Hmm now you are talking mumbo jumbo ..... GDP adjusted for PPP .... who is comparing countries .... we are talking about Iran itself ..... check the figures during the time of Shah and then comapre the figures during the last 30 years and you get a picture .... of course you can still belive that Iran has been better off !!!!!!

Re: Iran - 30th anniversary of revolution - 30 years of economic decline

^ You prove the saying right. Nothing more from me.

One more example of burqa Zionist hate inciting him to BS another Islamic country.
And one more time he ran away from discussion.

Why don't you tell your Sunni brothers who continue to whinge about Iran's alleged treatment of Baluchi Sunnis? The first thing they continue to whinge about is the assertion that Tehran has no Sunni mosque. The second is their belief that the Iranian government is a 'munafiq' government. And the third is their belief that Iran always works against Islam by siding with the Northern Alliance against the Taliban. Sunnis still cry about that, even though your beloved Taliban killed heaps of Shi'as on the basis of being Shi'a!

I'm not a supporter of the regime, however, if the Taliban and Pakistani-based al-Qaeda terrorists dare launch an attack on my homeland, I will be forced to rally to the support of the Iranian regime in that case. I would not mind if Iran invaded Pakistan to eliminate the Taliban.