For years I have heard Ulama e hind charged Allama Iqbal with too much frankness with thier God to the point it appeared total blasphemy.
I thought That was due to his Shikwa , Jawab e shikwa
But I guess long before that he said this ..
Faarigh Na bethey ga , mehshar main junoo.n mera
Ya Apna Garebaaa.n chaak ya daman e yazdaa.n chaak
I reckon Ulama e hind were not very wrong back then 
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Well he is said to have been accustomed to drinking as well....but to each his own!
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So you we heard it on Geomentary yesterday :)
Have you read the whole poem? I have not. Can you please, share it? :)
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Not that but a programe on ptv on iqbal day.
I am not aware of whole poem ( if ther is any )
If some one knows , please share it here.
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Basically these scholars were from Brelvi School of thought. They not only put fatwas on Iqbal but also on Jauhar, Zafar Ali Khan, on Ibne Saud of Saudia for demolishing the ggraves of sahabas etc etc.maulana Deedar Ali Shah was thier leader at that time.It dosent matter. People who donrt understand the logic and depth they start putting fatwas.Brelvi ulemas were with British Empire while Deobandi were against British Empire so when Jauhar, Zafar and Iqban have written agaginst British Empire, thier imperilaism so this fight started,it happens in history, not a big deal... Iqbal also said something like that
Merai Junoo ko hai terai wajood sai gila
Apnai liyai La-Maka merai liyai Char Soo
Iqbal Junoo and Ishq cross all boundaries of Khirad(aqal) and His Khudi doesnt care about anything.
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Ishq is the main ingredient of Life and is also its driving force – the prime mover behind all universal occurences. This Iqbalic Love would make man into a creator of and victor over his own ideals, setting him into never-ending motion. Outreaching from one conquest to another, he is never subject to surcease. History is fraught with examples of Ishq making a difference between the right and the wrong. This Ishq, is distinct from Ilm or Aql. There are many junctures in one’s Life, when one reaches a divergence of passages. Reason alone cannot be the sole guide in such cases. Reason will always give one a sense of fear and deprivation; it safeguards interests in life, but Ishq creates life, procreates life and makes it grow beyond bounds and shine beyond glitters. A life of pure reason would drear death, a life of Ishq will welcome it.
Iqbal is a believer in the anthropic principle. His bold dialogues with God represent his belief that Ishq could make man work miracles. But to the basic question as to how one could acquire this quality of zest, Iqbal provides a solution too. It is the concept he introduced of Khudi , of Self-Realization: seeking purpose in one’s life; awakening to the idea that this world is for you; grasp upon the personal gifts bestowed upon you by God and in return “seize the day”.
Khudi in turn leads to the qualities of Faqr pride that never crosses the borders of conceit. Faqr represents Dignity and mutual respect, a state of being straight forth in the face of the vain pursuits of this little world. It is this attribute, that makes a man who is but the king of his heart’s world, to turn away from princely grandeur. Moreover, Iqbal says that a man could only be dignified, if he is a free man. Freedom from all masters but one, is essential. The false hopes, fragile aspirations and misplaced desires that dwell in a slave’s heart, could never grant him the virtues of Khudi and hence most of his value in life would simply be lost. Worshipping deities other than the Lord, either inhabiting within one’s heart or without, should shatter away any hope of progress. To the Muslims of the day, these figurines are the idols of sect, territory, rites and vain customs and above all false nationhoods.
A man of Faqr would never sell away his fortune in search of temporary goals. He is firm and strong in action. He can never be bent in the face of peril. He does not droop low to seek sustenance. Such a man is likened to a Shaheen, an Eagle, whose niche is the echelons of honour and not the abysses of ignominy, like the habitat of a vulture. A nation, whose youth are armed with the double-edged sword of Khudi, would no longer need any weapons of mass destruction – it would be crowned with majesty.
Muhammad Iqbal pinned his hopes in the youth. Youth and Hope were again some of the themes resonating throughout his work. Hope, as Iqbal believed was a natural outcome of Faqr and Yaqeen. The youth were Iqbal’s foremost addressees. Inculcating his Vision into the individuals of the day, as professed in the verse I have selected to be the masthead of this essay, was his prime desire.
Iqbal, being wary of the vices of modern western education, conflicted with an education that was void of Ishq or a recognition of Self. Wetern education, especially, remained a main target of his criticism.
The west never became the ideal world for Iqbal. His Inner Eye could go beyond the veils and penetrate into the flaws of the modern society. He attacked western imperialism, their portrayals of democracy, their concepts of colour and race, and their emptiness of warmth or Soz, as Iqbal coins it. He had a sip of wine from the cups of disparate civilizations – both the east, being shuddered into the wormholes of ignorance and bigotry, as well as the west, with all its signs of teeming progress. To him, the west was all glitter, with false standards, and soul-less ideals. Their lives were mere lives of humanoids, mechanically adjusting to daily needs. Iqbal’s whole philosophy, on the other hand, had grown out of Purpose. Without Purpose, it would have taken to the ground in no time. Could the west contribute any purpose to life or any direction, at the least? The poet speaks of their scientific marvels – Copernicianism, Newtonianism, and Einsteinism, one after the other, and then raises the question if the self-same scientifically abler man, traversing the zodiac of galaxies, could ever resolve the complex trajectories of the ideas drifting in his own personal cosmos. Whilst capturing beams of sunlight, could he ever illuminate the dark alleys of his terrestrial barren life ?
Without being a rejectionist, Iqbal also looked beyond mere romanticism with the past glory of Muslims. His vision flew him over and above the cities of Kufa and Baghdad, always waiting for new camps to be drawn, new roads to be taken and new thoughts to be aspired. He fascinates with the past to an overwhelming extent, but he does not blindly reject all that comes from the west or exhort all that is eastern.
He vehemently rejects asceticism. He arouses a constant clash between the madrassah and the khanqah – the abodes of the mullah and the sufi respectively. He does not respect the philosopher or the narrow mullah – one, he says, summons the death of the heart, and the other blindfolds the eye that looks boldly into the world. He only craves the Vastness of his heart and fails to find this opportunity in contemporary Modern Education or Sufism or even the Faqih, or further still, the ritualistic leader of our uninspired prayers.
How would they all know, after all, the means to guide a nation?
Iqbal lived before his age. His envisioned state was born after he lived long enough to witness it. Still we owe a heavy debt upon our shoulders, to this man, who takes us, at the one hand for a ramble betwixt the stars, and at the other, pierces within the hearts of our hearts
http://www.khwarzimic.org/takveen/iqbal.html
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maybe it will not appear to be so blasphemous if u know that in urdu "chaak-e-garebaan"is associated with extreme love....
read this short story:
" This is the story of a herdsman In the time of Nabi Moosa (A.S.).
In a sincere search for his Lord,
While on the fringe of the desert plains,
And while weeping sadly and distressed
With burning Divine Love from within.
One day the herdsman, while remembering his Beloved
Was crying in prayer before Him:
'O Lord of both worlds,
How can I meet You and where?
Show me some sign of the meeting place
Where I can meet You, 0 King of the Universe.
My heart will not experience any quiet
For as long as I do not find your address.
Every Rose Garden is a thorn bush without 'You.
Life is afire without You.
Without You, the beautiful voice of the nightingale,
Sounds like the cries of the crow in our ears.
This earth, sun and the moon,
This Rose Garden, this desert, land and sea
Are all no pleasures to me without 'You.
How can I live without you? Should I meet you, 0 Lord,
I would press 'Your legs and hands every day.
I would give 'You bread to eat.
I would give 'You milk to drink every morning and evening.
I would give 'You milk of my.goats to drink, 0 Lord of all men.'
The herdsman was opening his heart to Allah with these words of love when suddenly Nabi Moosa (A.S.) happened to pass by that way and as he heard the words, he said:
'O Herdsman, do you think Allah stands in need of a servant?
Does He have a head so that you can comb His hair?
Does he become hungry so that you could give Him goat's milk to drink?
Does He become sick so that you could sympathetically treat him?
0 Ignorant One! Allah is free of all faults and needs.
Quickly, repent! Your words are words of blasphemy.
Allah is utterly not in need of any of your services. "
When the herdsman heard these words of Nabi Moosa (A.S.) he became ashamed of himself. In fear and sorrowful distress, he tore his clothes and started crying bitterly, fleeing towards the desert.
Then Allah sent revelation to Nabi Moosa (A.S.):
'O Moosa, why have you chased my bondsman from me?
I have sent you to join them to me, not remove them from me.'
Basically these scholars were from Brelvi School of thought. They not only put fatwas on Iqbal but also on Jauhar, Zafar Ali Khan, on Ibne Saud of Saudia for demolishing the ggraves of sahabas etc etc.maulana Deedar Ali Shah was thier leader at that time.It dosent matter. People who donrt understand the logic and depth they start putting fatwas.Brelvi ulemas were with British Empire while Deobandi were against British Empire so when Jauhar, Zafar and Iqban have written agaginst British Empire, thier imperilaism so this fight started,it happens in history, not a big deal... Iqbal also said something like that
Merai Junoo ko hai terai wajood sai gila Apnai liyai La-Maka merai liyai Char Soo
Iqbal Junoo and Ishq cross all boundaries of Khirad(aqal) and His Khudi doesnt care about anything.
it means if you are in khudi then you are allowed to say whateva you want
Well he is said to have been accustomed to drinking as well....but to each his own!
due to these things he got title sir
actully he got title for his community service?
but my question is which community ?
wada egnraize da agent si
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^^ My Urdu teacher used to say that anybody who such a thing , you should ask him only just tell the book names written by Iqbal i his life. Just names, if you cannot even name them then better for you to first learn thier names . Then you will be able to know about the work of Iqbal . Oh plz. dont google or wiki it !
Iqbal is beyond your neurons limits . He remained in Europe , may be in early life some drinking then by your logic since Umar(ra) used to drink wine before islam, he should also be questionable (naouzubillah) ! Bettter for you to read some philosophical works , then only you can be able to know who is Iqbal and what its status.
Surprisngly all those who blame Iqbal for drinking and Angarez da agent .. the fact that your education, your medical needs, invalidity benefits, Job Seekers allowance etc which you so eagerly accept, are funded through tax on fags, mags (yes, even bongo mags), alcohol and also . At the local level, councils have schemes which are anathema to you such as Gay/ Lesbian support groups etc.
And you have the cheek to lecture us on Iqbal and his religious status huh !
Is Sadgi pai kon na mar jai aai Khuda !
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I have no problem with what Allama Iqbal did or didnt do. Each person must acocunt for their own actions. Im just glad we had Iqbal to dream for us!!!
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No sir i am not saying to you but that ignorant who is insulting Iqbal...
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I fail to see what's so "blasphemies" about the shair?
care to elaborate?
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jin koh shaeri samajhnay ka zoq nahi hai, un koh iss sey doooooooooor rehna chahiye 
I fail to see what's so "blasphemies" about the shair?
care to elaborate?
Actuall Iqbalic Ishq makes a person into never-ending motion.From one success to another, it never comes to an end.His Junoo even make him Restless on the dooms day in front of Allah Almighty so even he will tear his shirt or Allah's shirt , just an imigination of Iqbalic Love , not anything to do with reality, metaphor sort of thing which inspire anyone never to stop in the journey of success and life.
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the ulemas i have read of didnt consider him to be blasphemous, one of the most quoted poet in deeny books.
Lovely story 
Now Iqbal was a sufi ! and he preached sufism
Wow
Cool.
Lets celebrate Love of thy lord in truly spectacular fashion