Inzy A Good Captain Or Not

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*Originally posted by ehsan: *
kaka jee it is correct the tactical bran behind Imran was always Miandad.
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I dont think so. He might have a say in things, but miandad was never the tactical "brain" behind Imran... I agree that they both worked together as a great teams, but they had conflicting personalities, and had personal differences at times, miandad was no doubt a great cricketing brain but to take everything away from imran, saying that miandad was the tactical brain behind imran is not right. They were two extremely different personalities. Miandad in my opinion had more defensive tactics as opposed to Imrans attacking nature... so i,m sure when it came to purely tactical decisions like declarations etc. imran and miandad wouldv disagreed on certain occasions and i,m sure imran wouldv gone with his own "braver" decisions.

I,m sorry but I dont think miandad was the whole "brain" behind imran. He might have come up with some useful suggestions here n there but please dont take everything away from the khan, as if he was just a mere puppet.

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*Originally posted by KAKA-ATOM-BUM: *

I dont think so. He might have a say in things, but miandad was never the tactical "brain" behind Imran... I agree that they both worked together as a great teams, but they had conflicting personalities, and had personal differences at times, miandad was no doubt a great cricketing brain but to take everything away from imran, saying that miandad was the tactical brain behind imran is not right. They were two extremely different personalities. Miandad in my opinion had more defensive tactics as opposed to Imrans attacking nature... so i,m sure when it came to purely tactical decisions like declarations etc. imran and miandad wouldv disagreed on certain occasions and i,m sure imran wouldv gone with his own "braver" decisions.

I,m sorry but I dont think miandad was the whole "brain" behind imran. He might have come up with some useful suggestions here n there but please dont take everything away from the khan, as if he was just a mere puppet.
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i agree with kaka jee and add that the prob with jawaid bhai has always been that he can be too emotional at times. his diplomatic skills need to be worked on. like rashid latif he is far too quick in blaming others if they dont agree with him. there were many instances when he was the coach when this all happened. True he has a good crickting brain and all but he was far too emtional and far too involved then some one of his stature should be. u either have to be an authoritarion like imran or a diplomatic captain like vaughan of england sadly miandad was the one in between and wasnt able to achieve the sucess imran did and vaughan is on the way of achieving. this is not undermine his ability as a player no doubts he was one of our greatest ever batsman

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*Originally posted by ehsan: *

Yes he was the risk taker and the discplinarian in the team but tactics was always Miandad's.

I remember watching a match in Sharjah against WI. Miandad was not playing due to some injury. WI in reply to Pakistan were crusing along when during a drinks break I saw Maindad rush on to field and throughout the break him and Imran were in deep discussion. It was amazing to see the transformation in Pakistan's performance after the drinks break. I don't think Imran was a great tactian, he was a great player, a great performer, a great talent spotter and I was priveleged to have watched him at his peak many times, but he was not a tactian.
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Ehsan bhai do you also remember Minadad signaling for a left hander (Wasim Akram) after Salim Malik's wicket during the 92 World Cup Semi Final. It was Imran who sent Inzimam and I am sure the whole world knows how that decision transormed the outcome of a world cup semi final.

The second example came right in the next match when he brought Akram on when he did. The timing for that was perfect. No, that was not a Minadad decision since he himself wrote in his auto biography that "some thing needed to be done and Imran did it by bringing Akram back on". Normally Akram would come a little later for his second spell.

Imran's tactical qualities were over shadowed by his inspirational qualities and his aggressive approach but he was a master tactian a swell. Maybe not as innovative as times but saying he was not a tactianb would be unfair.

LM, welcome back, yaar you should post more. I agree with you, having read my statement again what I wanted to say was that he was not as great a tactian as a leader and talent spotter. I have always maintained that Maindad was a far better tactian than Imran, but I respect everyones view. I watched both of them and miandad while not a great leader was a great tactian, far ahead of Imran. That is not to devalue Imran's qualities in any way.

InshAlla will try to post more often. Although I do agree with you that Minadad was a great tactian. He was a street smart cricketer and came up with innovative ideas. I just wanted to point out that Imran was a tactian as well. Maybe not as innovative as Javed but a good one nevertheless.

yeahhh he is getting better day by day… but he needs to be lil more active thats all… overall he is a classic player and i am happy that his responsibility as a captain didnt really effect his battin :k:

I would have to say not..i think he sucks and is good for only one thing...being a mota aloo :p

at times he lacks confidence - afraid or unwilling to take risks - he needs to get over that hump!