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I'm sure there would be examples of every team doing this...but What I find ridiculous is Mr. Moin Khan's invoking the "gentle" nature of the game and the sportsmanship......preach what you pratice...

and Mr. Inzi....how can he call it "unsportsmanship like", when he himself was part of the team that appealed the run-out against Tendulkar after he had grounded his bat in the crease ifirst before running into the fielder that made his bat go up in the air...(Calcutta, 1999)

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Bingo. I bet half of these so called issues and controversies wouldn’t even show up if it wasn’t for players, ex-players, coaches, board officials blabbing to anyone who cares to listen. Now instead of this issue dying its natural death after the match, it’s now escalating. Inzi got caught napping, Indian team took advantage (the fact that they did reeks of desperation but that’s another issue), lets learn from the mistake and move on.

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Inzi itself started this issue

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Whoelse reckons Inzimam will be invovled in another controversial dismissal very soon?

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I think he is due for a Handle the Ball or to an extreme case, Timed Out for arriving late to the pitch at the fall of a wicket.

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our video has ended up on cricinfo

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to bhai kon keh raha hay ke Indians ne start kia hai ye “issue”?

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Osman Samiuddin has a very good article on this issue at CricInfo. Gist of it is that it was bad enough that Inzi got out like that, worse was that he paraded his ignorance of the rules and the worst part is his trying to escalate it as if Indians were at fault. Jeez Louise… Cut your losses and run, dude. You are appearing like a doodoo and a cry-baby now.


Inzamam’s reaction leaves a bad taste

It should first be clear that, by obstructing the field at Peshawar, Inzamam-ul-Haq was out.

Law 37 (1) states that a batsman is obstructing the field if he willfully obstructs or distracts the opposing side by word or action. It is also obstruction if a batsman willfully, and without the consent of the fielding side, strikes the ball with his bat or person - other than the hand not holding the bat - after the ball has touched a fielder. And Law 37 (2), on accidental obstruction, states it is for either umpire to decide whether any obstruction is willful or not. Inzamam patting the ball back appeared willful and, in any case, both umpires consulted each other before ruling him out. That incident and its aftermath, however, revealed two disturbing aspects.

The first was that Inzamam wasn’t aware of the law. Given the abundance of rules and subsections governing the game, it is futile - though not unfair - to expect captains to be intimately aware of their minutiae. At least, knowledge of those concerning dismissals is prerequisite for every captain and player. Granted, it is an uncommon mode of dismissal - he was only the third man in ODI history to be dismissed in such a manner - but rarity should not justify ignorance.

Inzamam wrote in his column for The News: “Such not very common laws need to be explained properly and in detail.” Is it not incumbent upon a player to know them himself? And if they need explaining to one with a 100-plus Tests and 350 ODIs, in a career spanning nearly 16 years, it reveals more about the player than the laws. That Inzamam should have known the law brooks no argument, defense or justification.

It wasn’t the first time either that he has been caught unawares; in Pakistan’s seven-wicket win at Wellington, in 2003-04, he shunned the extra half hour on the fourth day 28 runs from victory. Showers and inconsistent weather were expected on the final day and the decision bemused and shocked observers. To Pakistan’s horror, play was delayed on the final morning but, luckily, only for an hour. The win was duly completed. In quite a different way, that situation also reflected a similarly dangerous lack of awareness of situation and circumstance.

But more regrettable than his ignorance are comments in the aftermath which only compound his folly. By publicly accusing India of acting outside the spirit of cricket he raised a question, of sportsmanship and spirit of the game, when it needn’t have been invoked. The match was delicately poised in favour of Pakistan, Inzamam’s was a crucial wicket and India needed it. The mode of dismissal was legitimate and the appeal as sporting or unsporting as any for an edge, leg-before, stumping or run-out. Incidentally, the appeal was also as genuine as the one Pakistan made when Sachin Tendulkar was run out at Eden Gardens in 1999, another dismissal that sparked debate about the spirit of cricket.

Tendulkar appeared to have grounded his bat before colliding with Shoaib Akhtar inadvertently, causing him to lift his bat when the bails were dislodged and being given out; Pakistan could have withdrawn the appeal given the accidental collision but chose not to, which was their right. In Inzamam’s case, the decision didn’t even involve considerations of a collision as a loophole.

Ultimately both decisions were correct according to law and that, not ensuing debate in both cases about sportsmanship, is what matters. Moin Khan, who played in that match, called Inzamam’s dismissal deplorable, citing it as an example of India’s desire to win by hook or by crook and launching a scathing personal attack on Rahul Dravid. Conveniently, Moin forgets Tendulkar’s dismissal. Was appealing for it then not outside the spirit of the game as well? In a realm as grey as ethics, such accusations are damaging and unnecessary and though they hold less significance than Inzamam’s, Moin’s words are incendiary, misjudged and possibly hypocritical.

Worse still, Inzamam further implied it could affect relations between the two sides. Mostly, this series has been played in a cordial spirit, aside from some niggles at Faisalabad. Inzamam has thus not only made an issue from nothing, within the context of India and Pakistan, he has acted irresponsibly. As captain of a side in a series where so much is always at stake, where words must still be uttered cautiously, his comments are unnecessarily provocative; for a ravenous media on either side of the border not strangers to hyperbole and context-removal, they are gold-dust.

Already India has been compelled to issue a counter-statement, and although they have correctly called for the issue to be put to rest, it is unlikely that it will so easily. Inzamam claimed he has, “asserted on my boys not to make much of the Peshawar incident … however, in my personal opinion the appeal was not made in a sporting manner. Instead, it just might have left a bad taste in the mouth.”

How, though, can he expect his side not to make much of it when he himself has already done so? The bad taste has already been left in the mouth and it is not the Indians’ doing.

Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor of Cricinfo

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Nothing new in this article. I articulated all of his points in my posts.

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^ Yeah, I guess Osman Samiuddin copied your thoughts, Chris funguy Broad. :D

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so thats reverse count down, and what is count down? 1-2-3-4-5 ? :slight_smile:

:hehe:

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This can't be too far fetched...all he had to do was visit KK.

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BAD COW DISEASE: THE CHAPPELL EFFECT

Indian cricket has been afflicted by a debilitating disease , which is a close cousin of the famous European Mad Cow. Let me explain.
The affable, tranquil-looking , and essentially peaceful character Inzaman-Ul- Haq , the Pakistan skipper, is suddenly like an angry volcano. And red lava flowing from him is as obtuse as expecting Greg Chappell to love mach-bhaat ( fish-rice, a Bengali delicacy) prepared in mustard oil. The only other time I have seen Inzy so inflammatory was when some irreverent spectators mistook him from a hot potato with sour cream dressing.

Now Inzy ko gussa kyon aata hai ( why does Inzy get so volatile) ? **Frankly, anyone who saw him play the ball back defensively to Suresh Raina’s equally innocuous throw , will know what I am talking about. There was no " intent " on the part of Inzy to actually obstruct proceedings; it was clear as daylight the bearded captain was simply spontaneously reacting to the throw, without any deliberate effort to save his wicket. He knew he was just too close to the crease to be out , despite himself. And if Inzy is cockily confident of not being caught napping, that is like saying that even George Bush knows that Vikram Chatwal is not the Prime Minister of India. To cut the long story short, if Inzy did not " intend " to really have a deliberate violation in mind, was it fair on the part of the Men in Blue to unexpectedly appeal, and worse, to let Inzy troop back, dismal, forlorn and feeling foolish?

Sure, as per the rule book the mild- mannered modern-day Shrek deserved to have been given a sound spanking. But haven’t we seen batsmen so often casually pick up balls, deflect them off the bat etc on several occasions, even in critical phases of the game? And no one even bothers to take advantage of these tactical , technical lapses? Because the main underlying assumption is that the probability of being out is sub-zero and therefore by consequence, the intent is not to attempt highway robbery anyway. So by this logic, the Indians gave Inzy a rather unjust deal.

What’s worse is that this has unnecessarily fired up the opposition, made Inzy read the rule book and practice running between the wickets, :smiley: the Friendship Series has acquired shades of the famous failed Agra Summit, and made the Indians look desperate. If you see the video clips of the replay of that atrocious incident , you will see from the body language that the Indians are looking highly unconvinced themselves. They are simply going through the motions .

Should Rahul Dravid have quickly gathered his wits and called Inzy back? I think so.** Will this unwarranted unsportsman-like conduct have a bearing on the outcome of the ODI series? I think so. Will this affect the overall intensity of the encounters and make it unduly charged up? I think so. Is this new-found hard-boiled, cold and clinical, mechanical-machine , win-at-any-cost attitude a personification of the Indian coach’s personality? I think so. Like the way Greg Chappell invigorated Shoaib Akhtar and the Pakistan team with his chucking claims, will this make them hungry for revenge at-all-cost? I think so.

Now, what do you think?

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Right on spot but now i also think that Inzi should STOP COMPLAINING !!!

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Inzamam told to bury Peshawar ODI incident

From our correspondent

ISLAMABAD: The match referee for the Pakistan-India cricket series, Chris Broad has told Pakistan captain Inzamam-ul-Haq to bury the Peshawar incident and avoid giving any more provocative statements about it in the ongoing series.

A Pakistan team source confirmed that Broad had spoken to a team official and discussed the matter in detail for over an hour. "Broad conveyed the message for Inzamam that he should not get involved in anymore controversies and “realise his responsibilities as Pakistan captain”.

“Broad spoke to an official and conveyed his concern over Inzamam’s provocative statement in his column that the Indians had acted against sporting spirit in appealing for a decision against Inzamam during the first One-day International (ODI) in Peshawar,” the source added.

Inzamam wrote in his column that while the appeal was within the rules of the game, it was against the spirit of the game and that the Indians had left a bad taste in the mouth. The Pakistan captain was declared out “obstructing the field” in Peshawar when he stopped a throw from Suresh Raina with his bat while retreating into his crease.

“Broad has also said Inzamam should be careful not to do anything that is a violation of the ICC code of conduct,” the source said.

Inzamam himself confirmed at a news conference on Friday that he had been advised by the match referee to drop the issue. When asked about the statement issued by the Indian team on the incident he said he would not comment any further on it as the match referee had given a directive on it.

Meanwhile, Pakistan team’s coach Bob Woolmer said he would also like to see the issue now buried and finished so that both teams could concentrate on the remaining four games and play some good cricket.

But he explained that he and Inzamam had gone to the match referee and umpires after the Peshawar game to clarify one thing. "According to the rule, obstructing the field is valid. But Inzamam was trying to save himself by using the bat.

“The ball was coming straight at him, and naturally he did not want to take a blow. So he used the bat to stop it. Inzamam did not want to take a run,” Woolmer said.

"We were in a commanding position, with Younis Khan and Inzamam going great guns. That’s when the incident took place. The spirit of the game was the need of the hour. And I am not saying this because I am the Pakistan coach.

“All I want is for everyone to visualise the moment. It’s basic common sense. But at the end of the day, this controversy must not go on,” he said, referring to India captain Rahul Dravid’s statement yesterday.

The News


You are telling me Bob Woolmer has stepped in this too? Where is the logic in this statement he made:

“The ball was coming straight at him, and naturally he did not want to take a blow. So he used the bat to stop it. Inzamam did not want to take a run,” Woolmer said.

Was Inzamam that badly hurt to move two feet away from the ball?

  • "All I want is for everyone to visualise the moment, " he said.

*There is clearly a differentiation between what happened against England and the situation with India. One can distinctly and unimpededly see in the previous version where Inzamam was legitimately trying to distance himself away from the ball, whereas in the later accident, he purposely played the ball with a straight bat with all the time in the world. I mean, for the sake for Pete, why was that comment made? Was it necessary after what Inzamam did, during and after the post-match ceremony?

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Woolmer is just making a point that it was not "wilful" but rather a reflex reaction to avoid getting hit by the ball on his body. A person the size of Inzi can't just jump 2 feet to avoid an incoming throw, unlike most other cricketers. This is a reasonable argument, however, the two umpires ruled him out, and thus deemed him to stop the ball wilfully. So lets leave the matter here, and move on.

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nahi bhai..kaafi time tha..he could have just moved away from the line of ball and put his bat. With the smoohtnes ( :rotfl:) with which he played that ball it appears that he has no idea about rules.
One need to tell him all different ways he can get out… There is still time otherwise he will end getting out in all possible ways.