Interfaith Dialogue (Jesus PBUH and Muhammad PBUH) - Islam and Christianity

[The_Old_Man]

Re: Interfaith Dialogue (Jesus PBUH and Muhammad PBUH) - Islam and Christianity

@SlaveofAllaah

1. Quran mentions, not regarding the **People of Gospels, **but regarding Injeel which was revealed to Jesus pbuh, and it was only one book which was revealed to Jesus and not Gospels as in the Quran its not mentioned Anjeel.

Did you read what I wrote in the discussion of Scriptures about this reference?

USResident tried to get away by stating that the Injeel was not a book but an unwritten teaching/gospel. I pointed out to him that the way it is written in the Qur’an actually let a person think it is a book not a verbal teaching/gospel. Your point 1 actually confirms my position on this.

Jesus NEVER wrote a book and NEVER asked/commanded his disciples to write one. As I said then and now, the prophet Muhammad was mistaken on this point - not trying to be blashphemous or libelous.

So the words of Allaah to Jesus, thats the injeel was revealed and since Allaah is talking about this in the Quran is referring to injeel and not the Gospels the translators have used the words for a certain Purpose.

As above pointed out, you can now see how wrong this assumption is.

2. SHAKIR: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.

Here in the Noble Quran, point was made that the Christians follow the Bible in which they get the story crucifixion, and the Quran calls it conjecture (corruption).

Sorry, I should have mentioned that the Qur’an mentions Jesus’ birth and death. Nothing in between.

The problem is that the death of Jesus is so well documented that no one can disagree (except if you are a Muslim and HAVE to believe the Qur’an above ALL other facts and proofs) that Jesus WAS killed. In the discussion on Scriptures I gave two renown historians in the time of Jesus that DO mention the crucifiction, and then there are various Roman documents also referring to the fact.

But I dont think so you are claiming that"The Quran claims that the Bible is 100% pure and 100% uncorrupt and 100% Truth". I hope not.

The Qur’an doesn’t and can’t make the claim. It doesn’t because it just does not make a statement saying the Gospels are authentic. It can’t because the prophet Muhammad had no idea what was written in the New Testament. It does though by NOT making a statement to the negative, open the view that the New Testament “might” be correct. This again can’t be true because if it is true, then the Qur’an is incorrect and not perfect. I therefor understands why Muslims (not the Qur’an but Muslims by themselves) HAVE to say the New Testament is incorrect/corrupt. The point I wish to make is that the Qur’an does not have this view. Are there any references to this issue in the ahadith?

Well The Old Man, If you couls summarize 5 major points, why you dont believe in Prophet Mohammed as I usually say, using Quran as a reference.

I will come back to you because I will need to quickly flip through my notes…

But I prefer, you can wait till USR responds.

Look, I know he is the boss, but he did say others may contribute in this thread