Inter-sect marriages

[hiccup]

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@ghuLail

yeah…no need to verbalise the feeling…i get the instinct…

I’m bored of you now. You are not even funny

[ghuLail]

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same here....u cant say much if someone says they understand yr silence best can u?....:P

[larki]

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It's so sad that we're so disunited. Rather than focusing on our similarities, it seems that most of us like to focus on our differences.

Back to the initial question, my uncle married a shia and they agreed they would raise their children as plain Muslims, neither "shia" nor "sunni" - they're primary source being the Quran. Since sects were created due to historical events, they don't dwell on history at all.

If I was in an inter-sect marriage, I would just focus on the Quran. Teach my kids the fundamentals of Islam (i.e. five pillars, beliefs) and focus on those rather than obsessing over historical events and what happened/should have happened after the Prophet (pbuh)passed away.

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

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@larki

Back to the initial question, my uncle married a shia and they agreed they would raise their children as plain Muslims, neither “shia” nor “sunni” - they’re primary source being the Quran. Since sects were created due to historical events, they don’t dwell on history at all.

If I was in an inter-sect marriage, I would just focus on the Quran. Teach my kids the fundamentals of Islam (i.e. five pillars, beliefs) and focus on those rather than obsessing over historical events and what happened/should have happened after the Prophet (pbuh)passed away.

Easier said than done. A simple example is do they teach their kids to pray with their hands clasped (sunni way) or byt heir sides (shia way)?

Which honourific do they teach their kids to use after the name of Hazrat Ali (ra) ? The term used is different for sunnis and shias.

etc etc etc

[Pinstripe_Danda]

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^ so by praying one way or the other the piety is being diluted? what kind of idiocy is this?

[minah_pa]

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Mad_Scientist - those are rituals, rituals are supposed to be flexible. What matters is the teachings and that the person live them out. Rituals can be worked out.

Perhaps one hand in the lap and one on the side :D teasing, but really... isn't Islam more than how you pray or hold your arms or what honorific you use?

[ghuLail]

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^ if Islam tells u abt how to pray it is just that…there is no more or less to it…

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

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@minah_pa

Perhaps one hand in the lap and one on the side teasing, but really… isn’t Islam more than how you pray or hold your arms or what honorific you use?

True - but I’m challenging whether it is really possible that a Muslim can be raised according in a way that is neither Sunni nor Shia.

While both are perfectly valid forms of Islam, they have slightly varying rituals. So if you do your rituals one way, you’re practicing some of sunni Islam, and if you do your rituals the other way, you’re practicing some of shia Islam.

And I’ve never heard of anyone remixing sunni and shia Islam to come up with a Third Way, so I’m curious as to in what way these kids who are allegedly neither sunni nor shia hold their hands when they pray … the sunni way or the shia way?

[Sara516]

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Some dumb questions, but intersect marriages are not prohibited or have restrictions on them like interfaith marriages right? It's not considered apostacy if u convert from sunni to shia or reverse?

[ravage]

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depends on who you ask.. :-) .. but yea the non-nutcase answer would be No.

[jackie]

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i think people make sunni and shia marriages a bigger thing then they really are. it isnt that big of a deal, they are both muslims.

[system]

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@Reza Pahlavi

I am a Shia Muslim, and my wife is a Sunni.

We have a new baby boy mashallah, and of course he was born a Muslim. But I wanted to know from others how they decided to deal with issues as to what Fiqh the child should have? Thank you.

I know a family like yours where the Father is Shia and mother Sunni. They let the kids decide. The Son choose to be a Shia and the daughters choose to be Sunni. They seem perfectly content and happy…

[lostsoul]

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@minah_pa

Since this is a question about sects in religions…

My mother was Episcopalian and my father was Catholic when they married and both were ex-communicated (throw out) for marrying the other. They made the decision, much like you did to allow us to decide. My brother and I stayed Catholic’s, my sister a Methodist.

My first husband was Sunni Muslim and I am Catholic when we had the children, we decided they should be raised as Muslim. When he passed and I married my current husband (Sunni Muslim), the children are still Muslim. Primarily because it was more important to my first husband that they be Muslim than it was to me that they be raised Catholic.

u should have married shia muslim second time, if not for anything else, then just a change os taste

But seriously, y didnt u make sure that ur children take any religion they want? y let ur deceased husband dictate his religion on ur children?

in my view, ppl produce children in very selfish way…to promote ‘themselves’. ppl have to be very cautious in making sure that this zel does not destroy the kids.What if he does not like ur religion, but just to make u happy, he is abiding by it?

[lostsoul]

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@Reza Pahlavi

I am a Shia Muslim, and my wife is a Sunni.

We have a new baby boy mashallah, and of course he was born a Muslim. But I wanted to know from others how they decided to deal with issues as to what Fiqh the child should have? Thank you.

Lets worry about what kind of genetic weakness he has borrowed from both of u parents, and lets leave the choice of sexual orientation and religion to him.

[sara_zzz]

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^ off topic- but what happens to paki gay guys.. do their parents force them to marry. do they never come out of the closet. do they get kicked out??

did anyone watch moorat??

[lazy_daisy]

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^^^ from the stories ive heard and the fallout ive seen it appears that quite a few are "pursuaded" to marry, alot will go on have children, some dont touch their wife
and practically all will, if they have the opportunity.... some kind of relationship with men. Secret or even not so secret liasons with people they fall for.

[codeman]

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@ghuLail

… and unless u want to raise some ahmadi-sort of a muslim…i’ll say predispose him to one…

oye u…we r humans to

[minah_pa]

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lostsoul - I don't know if you noticed, very rarely does anyone make me do anything.

My religion is a bit more flexible than my former husbands. Most Catholics (not all, this new Pope doesn't, one of the areas that our former Pope and this one differ) believe that everyone has the opportunity for salvation through the life they lead and work they do. You just have an edge, if you will, being Catholic :)

I loved my husband and this was an area that really bothered him and Catholic teachings and Muslim teachings are not that far apart, so raising my children Muslim was not a hardship nor a big sacrifice.

If they decide at some point to experiment with other religions for one reason or another, that is fine with me. But they are happy the way they were raised. We are not going to stop loving our children just because they want something different than what makes us happy.

I think the only thing that would bother me would be if they became atheist, but that wouldn't change the way we act with them. After a certain age, their spiritual devlopment is in their hands.

I would rather have a child practicing what they believe in rather than a child who mouths the words and does the actions but does not believe or have faith. I am not their final judge, God is. I think he always knows who the hypocrites are.

As for the marrying Sunni, the area we used to live in there is a fairly sizeable neighborhood of Sunni Muslim. At least there used to be, FBI raided pretty regularly this past year, more people got deported than ever, only a handful left.

[Aalsi]

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Isn't general Musharaf a Sunni and his wife a Shia?

[lostsoul]

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@minah_pa

lostsoul - I don’t know if you noticed, very rarely does anyone make me do anything.

Ok, now i noticed