'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo jee.

question now is that WHAT IF they cant prosecute Majeed?

Will ICC have any grounds to still go ahead and punish players? I am sure if ICC does that, that can be easily overturned by court of law in UK on the basis that police did not find any evidence and ICC still punished players…


‘Insufficient evidence’ against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief](http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/content/current/story/475246.html)

The chairman of a UK commission set up to investigate the threat of gambling-related corruption in sport has told Cricinfo he believes there will be insufficient evidence for police to press charges against Mazhar Majeed, the alleged fixer who was caught on camera accepting money from an undercover reporter in a News of the World sting.

Rick Parry, the former chief executive of Liverpool Football Club, told Cricinfo’s Switch Hit podcast that, despite a dossier of apparently damning evidence - including video footage of Majeed appearing to correctly predict the timing of three no-balls bowled by Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir during the first two days of the Lord’s Test - the case was likely to flounder unless evidence of illegal betting activity was found to back up the claims.

“I don’t think [the case] has any evidence at all,” said Parry. “Unless the News of the World placed a bet - which would be highly unlikely because in so doing they would have carried out a criminal act - then there doesn’t appear to be any betting activity at all associated with these particular allegations. It places the ball, to pardon the pun, squarely back into the hands of the cricket authorities.”

Under the provisions of the Gambling Act 2005, which made cheating in sport for financial gain a criminal activity in the UK, it had been hoped that the very fact that these latest allegations had taken place in the country would help to carry them forward into the courts, and lead to a high-profile case that could act as a deterrent to others who might be tempted into similar wrongdoing.

However, Parry said that until such time that further evidence was unearthed, the greater onus would have to fall on cricket’s governing bodies to live up to their promise, reiterated by the ICC’s chief executive, Haroon Lorgat, on Monday, to take “prompt and decisive action” against anyone found guilty of match-fixing.

“The ICC is very much in the spotlight on this one, and so it can’t afford not to [act],” he said. “When you see the publicity like we’ve had over the last couple of days, there can’t be a single reason not to take the right action, because it’s the reputation of the sport at stake, and nothing can be more important than that. Everyone connected with sport - participants and spectators - have a basic right to believe that sport is clean and that everyone is doing their best, because that goes right to the root of what’s good about sport.”

Parry did, however, credit the ICC for taking a lead among sporting governing bodies in attempting to police corruption its own issues, but added that more effort clearly needed to be put into the education of its young players, particularly in light of Amir’s alleged involvement in the Lord’s furore.

“I think one of the great sadnesses of all of this, and it’s a widely held view, is that a great young talent like Amir has been implicated in this one,” said Parry. “I think that’s what perhaps separates this from many other cases, because it suggests that the bad guys got to him before the good guys did. One of the fundamental recommendations of our panel, along with disciplinary measures and sanctions, is that it’s absolutely fundamental to have education processes in place, so that players and participants are taught from a very, very young age, first of all what the rules mean, so that there can be no excuses, and secondly that they are vulnerable to outside influences.”

“To be fair to cricket, at ICC level they have taken very significant steps,” he added. "They were one of the first sports to set up a proper integrity unit, in the wake of previous major issues such as Hansie Cronje scandal, so I don’t think it can be said that the cricket authorities have done nothing. But in terms of educating the players, it could be that they’ve not done enough. It would have to be a shock that a talent that has broken onto the scene so very, very quickly is at the centre of all this.

“He’d have been enrolled in a cricket academy from a young age, and from the moment he shot to prominence with the international squad, you’d think that the Pakistan Cricket Board might have recognised a vulnerability and a need to put an arm around him. I can’t imagine it would have been that difficult to do, because when you read of the sums involved in betting in the Far East - with up to $500 million on a single game - the temptation is potentially there for relatively lowly paid cricketers. It’s beholden upon the authorities to step in and provide appropriate support systems.”

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

So ! What now???

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

Hen there is no evidence then I think nothing can be claimed and for that, why they need to punish the players. Although the News conference by Sulman Butt and the reaction of players to the allegation do hint that there was something.

When the case get clear and there isnt anything happening, ICC should not ban / fine or anything else to players BUT PCB should change the players or should investigate at their level in Pakistan, not only for the spot fixing but also to the pathetic game play by them.

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

^^ Come on Man, the team played up to their potential.. e.g., salman butt's average is 30, and he have scored more or less near to his average... if anybody is to be blamed then it is selectors, who have selected the wrong team and have taken too long to rectify their decision...

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

Still accused player's names have to be cleared officially and allegations proved wrong if they are innocent otherwise they will carry the taint throughout their careers if they get off on technicality.

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

There is no evidence of 'illegal betting' going on, in spite of evidence that players accepted the money.

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

Akmal is not under investigation anymore. Not sure if it was lack of evidence or no one wanted to waste their money paying this guy to drop catches he drops for free.

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

:)

A bookie made a deal with Akmal, to drop 1 catch for $300. Akmal went ahead and dropped actually 3. At the end of the game (which Pakistan lost), Akmal demanded $900. Bookie said

"look deal was for dropping 1 catch for $300. I can not pay $900 for 3 dropped catches. I am already under pressure from my bosses for paying $300 to a player who would drop catches anyway"

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

Pretty clever on part of the bookies. All the betting had taken place in the illegal betting markets in India, Pakistan and Middle East. Since those bets are all underground and no legal bookmaker in UK is offering odds on bets such as "first ball of the third over will/will not be a no-ball", hence no illegal activity took place. Clever indeed!

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

You must be joking so this guy will get away free no punishment after dragging pakistan name in the mud!

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

Lawyers dont get paid $$$$$$$$ for nothing. Its usual. For instance here in Canada, a X member of parliament, walked free from drug-related charges BECAUSE his car was not searched in accordance with the law although drug was recovered from his car, judge threw the case our of court. I believe same thing is going to happen with this bookie.

Who got the most benefit out of all this? "News of the World"

I am sure their site is getting million of hit ..

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

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You must be joking so this guy will get away free no punishment after dragging pakistan name in the mud!
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Players allegedly taking money from him dragged their country's name in the mud.

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

*There are only 2 ways this spot allegation can be conclusive:
1. If money given to Majeed is found from player's room
2. Kissi player ka zameer jaag jaye .. and he publicly acknowledge his wrong doing
*

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

Even in condition 1, they have to prove that money transferred hand for illegal betting and not for some other reason and Majeed being their agent/manager of sponsorships etc, it will be uphill task

but as I said before, I'd rather have these players found not-guilty after proceedings instead of having them bailed out on some technicality.

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

so are we fine with such batting line or with the team performance?

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

The key evidence is the video, the whole scandal revolves around it. If they can prove it was shot before those no-balls were bowled, then whether the money is found or not becomes irrelevant.

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

So ehsan bhai will return to GS, this means?

j/k really wondering where has he vanished ever since the scandal unearthed. May be has taken off to over come the embarrassment.

This Majid Mehmood guy is very clever. He made his name famous once again (he is already The pioneer and champion of sting operations). Eventhough there cannot be any further arrest because the 'CRIME' actually did not occur on English soil, but this whole saga has unveiled the true face of some of our players.

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

Once I was sitting at an internet cafe in Hong Kong....right next to me I saw a Pakistani guy with register in hand and taking calls on his cell phone saying "sir, $10,000 laga doon".. the other side responds..."theek hai"... he almost got 20 or so calls while I was there......I asked him where he was from......he told me Lahore. I asked what was he doing...he said he works as a bookie for Cricket and football matches....he told me he works with big dealers in Mumbai and Lahore. I asked if payments are guaranteed. He said 1000% on words. He said if you put $1 million at stake and win, it will be deposited in bank within 2 days after result. and if you loose, you need to pay in 2 days. If you do not, they know how to get it out.....fair deals!

His only job was BOOKIE and I could see his lavish lifestyle!

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

*nah ... don't think video evidence is legitimate enough ......
No players were shown "actually" taking the money and giving information or taking orders
they can simply deny the allegations and say it must be coincidence or something .... *

Re: 'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief :: chaloo

It is not just the british court of law that pakistan should be worried about. What if the english public decide to boycott the odis and t20s calling it a WWE kind of farce. What if the ECB refuses to play against or host pakistan anymore?Is the proof strong enough for ECB and the English public? I think it is, if not you would not have seen grown men shed tears of disappointment in the commentary box.