Re: Gays in Pakistan
The mentioning of Thursdays on Abdullah Shah’s mazar are not clear. It seems to come from a mind who think that hugging of males (embracing each other to wish Eid) is a gay act. If just being in crowd in a congested place is a gay act, then this fatwa of being gay will applicable to all men who visit Sadar and like areas for shopping 
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Re: Gays in Pakistan
Well, I don't see why what two consenting adults do with each other in their home should be anyone else's concern? Let them be. It's not like gays are harming anyone else in society.
The actual people who do deserve societal scorn but often go unscathed in a country like Pak are people like tax evaders. Fewer than 2% of Pakistanis pay taxes. There are thousands of people in Pakistan who are in a position to pay and should be paying taxes but don't even as their country's slide into economic disheavel continues unabated. Those tax evaders are the ones who deserve societal condemnation, not gays or lesbians.
Exactly. Thank you. I actually know gay doctors, lawyers, poets, nurses and healthcare workers etc here who care about their country and contribute. They support minorities. There is a similar situation in Pakistan. Everyone can have personal beliefs on things but why generalise and condemn a group when you don't know about their lives. Someone who is gay does not necessarily mean they are sexually active it could just be what they identify as yet we are ok to lump them all into a big group. But if someone were to lump as all into one group we would not like this.
Re: Gays in Pakistan
Muqawwee bhai i agree with you. Lot of the time when western desis come to India/Pakistan they are shocked to see guys and girls holding hands when this is a common friendship gesture. The Madho Lal Hussain dargah in Lahore was named after Shah Hussain and the Hindu brahmin boy Madho Lal he loved as a good friend. He also wrote many poems for him.
The writer seems to be a similar British Pakistani who might not understand the deeper layers of friendship that exists on subcontinent. You watch movies like Sholay and then you think what people would think of such innocent love today.
In my opinion the whole reason the article was written by BBC and why this issue is in focus is because the BBC is trying to show Pakistanis as being tolerant and open minded towards gay minorities especially after some unfortunate incidents in the UK which has brought them bad publicity. Like some British Pakistanis putting up gay free zones stickers in areas populated by gays in the UK. The documentary was targeted more for british pakistanis and other british people rather than Pakistanis living in Pakistan.
Could community relations survive a homophobic campaign? | Society | The Guardian
BBC News - Residents tackle East End “gay free zone” stickers
Muslim fanatic fined £100 for ‘gay free zone’ stickers - Telegraph The guy was on benefits as well. Could have spent his time more productively finding a job rather than being parasitic to the system and at the same time infringing on the rights of other minorities to leave peacefully.
How would someone of the minority feel if people in Western countries started putting up stickers saying “Indian free zone” or “Pakistani free zone” in predominant asian areas?
When you move to a new country it is important to respect the rules of the country you move to. If you do not want to do that then why move.
Unfortunately this is something only really seen in the UK. I have hardly heard of this happening in the US or Australia.
In my opinion it was not to say that Pakistan has lot of gays and it is bad but to say even though British Pakistanis may not all be as open minded people in Pakistan are. Or that actually not all Pakistanis think alike and that there is diversity of opinion. Even though they might not agree with it if others do it they may tolerate it if it is a private affair and kept under wraps.
Re: Gays in Pakistan
so whats the solution? The problem has been highlighted again and again by well wishers of Pakistan and Pakistanis, without proving any solution. I would like to know new perspective and possible solution this time.
Well it exists in all societies and it is hardly an open phenomenon in Pakistan. I mean even in the article most were planning to get married even if they continue things on the side. If that is the case only family can really do something about it.
What would not be such a good idea? Is to round up all the gays/lesbians you know lock them in a house and execute them. Why? Firstly, they are also human and secondly many are talented in their field and contribute to society so by doing that you are reducing productivity of your society. Also you are assuming things about a group of people which may not be true. In my class the smartest and nicest guy is a gay guy who is very involved in charity and part of amnesty international. In 2010 when there were floods in Pakistan he helped fundraise money through amnesty international for flood victims in Pakistan. he didn't think at the time that this is a country where people who are similar to me may be persecuted. When people think of a gay person in Pakistan they think of a fashion designer who speaks weirdly or a hijra type person when reality may be quite different. They can look and talk exactly like you and can come from all fields of life from medical, engineering, legal, business and creative fields. You can be against their actions but it is important not to target the individual person.