Innocent vicitms of Mullah-induced terrorism

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How many more innocent human beings will have to die before Muslims realize that Mullah version of Islam, extremism, Wahabism are all a sham to control the people?

How many more Pakistanis will suffer before the inept dictator government will put a leash on ISI and related Jihad activities?

How many Pakistani families will suffer the loss of their son or father lost in Jihad over unwinnable and fruitless causes in Kashmiri and Afghanistan?

How many Pakistani leaders will keep fooling the people that without Jihad in Kashmir, Pakistan is lost? And that violence is the only way to get your way?

How many more Pakistanis will be victims of gross injustice and violence by their own government and police?

How many Pakistanis will be humiliated in their own country by the elite, feudal lords, ruling families, army officers, bureaucrats, policewallahs and other corrupt people?

How many women will remain the victim of draconian hudood laws and domestic violence, acid throwing, burning alive, rape, prostitution, human trafficking?

How many young boys will continue to be molested by Mullahs and others, and sold as camel jockeys to Arab sheikhs?

How many Pakistanis will continue to be denied a proper education in schools?

How many Pakistanis will continue to starve to death?

How long will it take people to realize that there is more going in Pakistan and other Muslim countries that Osama and his Jihadi nuts? Muslims are suffering most because we are backward, not because of America or Israel.

Fight Jihad against poverty, and hunger. Fighting Jihad against America will only result in more misery against Muslims.

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Protester mourn death of his fellow Shiite Muslims at a rally, Friday, April 26, 2002 in Islamabad, Pakistan to condemn killings last night. A bomb ripped through a Shiite Muslim mosque deep in the interior of Pakistan’s eastern Punjab province, killing 12 worshippers, all of them women, and wounding at least 13 other others. (AP Photo/B.K.Bangash)

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A Pakistan Shi’ite Muslim chants anti-government slogans at a protest rally in Islamabad, April 26, 2002. Twelve women and children were killed and 23 wounded in an overnight bomb blast in the women’s section of a segregated Shi’ite Muslim congregation in Bhakkar town in central Punjab province. REUTERS/Mian Khursheed

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An unidentified man (R) weeps beside the bodies of his two grandchildren, killed in a bomb blast at a gathering of Shi’ite Muslims in Bhakkar town in Pakistan’s Punjab province, April 26, 2002. Twelve women and children were killed and 23 wounded in an overnight explosion in the women’s section of a segregated Shi’ite Muslim congregation. Residents said sectarian violence between militants from the Shi’ite and Sunni sects of Islam was most likely to blame for the blast. REUTERS/Faisal Mahmood

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Pakistani paramedical staff examine an injured woman in a local hospital after a bomb blast at a gathering of Shi’ite Muslims in Bhakkar, in Pakistan’s Punjab province, April 26, 2002. Twelve women and children were killed and 23 wounded in the overnight explosion in the women’s section of a segregated Shi’ite Muslim congregation. Residents said sectarian violence between militants from the Shi’ite and Sunni sects of Islam was most likely to blame for the blast. REUTERS/Faisal Mahmood

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A victim of bomb blast, center, is looked after by her mother at a local hospital in Bukker, 500 kilometers (300 miles) southwest of Islamabad, Pakistan Friday, April 26, 2002. A bomb ripped through a Shiite Muslim mosque deep in the interior of Pakistan’s eastern Punjab province, killing 12 worshippers, all of them women, and wounding at least 13 other people.(AP Photo/str)

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I hope you are not talking about the suffering of Shia Muslims only.

Otherwise what you have said is 100% correct.

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His point was not to talk about the innocent victim of SECTARIANISM, but he wanted to vent out his age old hate for “wahabism” something which only exists in the eyes of heretics and trouble makers.

Faraz, your bid to entice hate towards “wahbis” will only lead to more “sectarian” attacks, more violence and more innocent people killed. You only KNOW how to divide and how to creat rift. If you were a uniter and a peaceful person you would never try to exploit an incident to hurt your “personal” enemies. You would never assume that its them doing it, when it could be ANYONE, not wanting to see shia/sunnis living together in peace! So, far on this forum you fit that discription.

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AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: “DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH”, THEY SAY “WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS” VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur’an-2:11-12]

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Well, he did include the terms extremism and Mullah version of Islam -- which go past Wahaabism.

I dont know too much about the Wahaabism creed, but from what I understand it was a perfectly harmless movement given a political twist later on in time. So if that is true, the culprit isn't wahaabism itself but the present distorted version of it -- also done by extremists. I hate to use the term extremism, becuz its not really extremism. If you pull the rules of Islam out to extremism in the sense of intense devotion to religion, these sort of things aren't characteristic of an extreme follower.

But he is right, Pakistan has been ruined by this distorted socio-political form of abusing religion...

But I'd love it if more pictures were included in the collection that were not just focused on the plight of the Shia's -- cuz many of them are living in perfect peace with thier neighbors.

I never knew that mullahs and arab sheikhs were involved in the traffiking of lil boys for molestation and rape ... if anyone can refer me to some articles, that would be gr8!

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[quote]
Originally posted by Scratch:
**I hope you are not talking about the suffering of Shia Muslims only.

Otherwise what you have said is 100% correct.**
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Thanks for agreeing with me. I posted only pictures of Shias becuase that was the most recent episode of violence. Actually, not to many Sunnis are getting killed these days in retaliation by Shia groups.

Serial, how am I enticing anyone to do more sectarian attacks? Wahabis are not any sect or part of Islam. It's just a death cult like Heaven's Gate etc.

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It makes one's heart bleed. I smell a RAT having a hand in this, may those who have had be brought to justice by Allah swt.

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u can call them Mullah or whatever, but they care more or less because they speak the truth. and ppl who say the truth aren't scared of anyone but Allah. Wahabism is not a death cult. It may seem a death cult to u because u have strayed from the righ path and for u the dunya is everything whereas for mumin the Hereafter has more meaning than this meaningless dunya.

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Faraz writes:

*Thanks for agreeing with me. *

We know, that is all you care about. Lie, assume, fabricate stuff in order to win an argument.

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Serial, how am I enticing anyone to do more sectarian attacks? Wahabis are not any sect or part of Islam. It’s just a death cult like Heaven’s Gate etc.

Oh yeah? I bet you can’t prove SINGLE assumption that you have made in your little reply? Are you man enough to PROVE rather than making claims vigorously filled with hate and lies? And intention to spark yet another thread between you and open minded people telling you to BRING OUT THE FACTS rather than claims and baseless lies just because you are filled with hate towards a group of people?

Yes you are enticing hate and division among Muslims. Instead of waiting for facts to come out, waiting for AUTHORITIES to do their investigation and figure out WHO did this. You are here telling lies that its the “wahabis.” On one hand you preach islam and on the other, you go against the very principle of Quran, which says “do not say something which you do not have knowledge of…,” but no you will bypass that verse in order to ooz out your hate and misconceptions about a group of people whom you hate because they stop you from doing things which you inherited from hindus in the name of “neiki.”

Now who did this horrible crime against innocent people? ALLAH knows best and who ever did it is NOT, I repeat is NOT friend of MUSLIMS(what ever sect they belong to..), he is NOT a friend of Islam(quran&teachings of mohammad(saw) and he is NOT a friend of Pakistan. Look deeply at those questions and you will see who fits the description.

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Before you reply, please make sure you back your lies up with facts from people you are trying to spread lies against and from their own sources. Other wise people will look at you as nothing but a fool trying to create fights and create more sectarian DIVISION rather than unison!

AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: “DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH”, THEY SAY “WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS” VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur’an-2:11-12]

[This message has been edited by Serial Guppy (edited April 26, 2002).]

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The ppl who commit these kinda crimes are generally an extremists and they term it as jihad against the minorities...shame on them for ruining the name of islam and unfortunately you will still find alot of ppl here in GS supporting these kidna fanatics..

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Way To Go Serial Guppy

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Faraz Mir Take Your Best Shot At Serial Guppy

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shameful!

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very

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Very sad indeed! May Allah show us the right path and we could realize that bombs arent the answer to everything!

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Way to go Faraz Mir, Job well done!!
You have teach these molvis truth about extremisim, not islam.

Once again, Serial Guppy, you are trying to avoid the fact that he has included extremism, not only Wahabis but your very own OBL, the real enemy of Islam.

First answer his question about extremism, than focus on Wahabis and Shiites, which you are cleverly using to avoid his real point.

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I have never posted in the image gallery before,but i sometimes come here to have a look.
This is one of the most interesting threads that i have read on this whole forum.I have always felt that extreemism of any religion or political persausion is a really dangerous thing,because they always believe they are 100% right and everyone else is wrong.
I dont know if anyone here has heard the expressionthou protest too muchbut what it is trying to say,is that if a person is speaking the truth,he should not have to protest too much to convinse someone else that his argument is the right one,it should be self evident.
After reading this thread, i have to say Serial,Thou protest too much`

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Yo FARAZ MIR ur brethren of da pigz n donkeyz WHAT ABT ALL DA MUSLIM UR MULLAH GEORGE BUSH IS killin all ove da world....

...how long b4 we see an end to USA hegemony of da world???? inshallah not long!

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[quote]
Originally posted by UMAIR316:
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Once again, Serial Guppy, you are trying to avoid the fact that he has included extremism, not only Wahabis but your very own OBL, the real enemy of Islam.

First answer his question about extremism, than focus on Wahabis and Shiites, which you are cleverly using to avoid his real point.

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MY very own OBL? Where did I say OBL is mine and I support him?

Where did I support extremisism? I have always condemned extremists and continue to do so. Could you quote something from my thread where I said I support OBL or extremists?

All I say is, WAIT for the FACTS to come out, don't exploit the situation against your enemies or group of people. And one shouldn't just come up with conclusions when authorities investigating this haven't yet found out who actually did this.

I don't think ANYONE of us have any knowledge of what is going on there, all we can do is blame and blame and nothing else.

Bravheart, its not protesting. Its TRYING to make sense to the other side, which misunderstands the reply and twists it in way which fits them in order to reply with little ease.

Though, I highly condemn this attack and who ever did this should be punished but all I say is WAIT for the facts to come out and don't point your fingers at your enemies like A WORLD BULLY, just because you hate them or their way of looking at things.

If we all point fingers at each other, whats going to happen? DISHARMONY! Shia blames sunni, suni blames shia and all of the sudden fights erupt. What good is that when more people will be hurt? So, if we all wait and wait the investigation to take its route, we might find out WHO actually did it and we can punish him/them and rest of the innocent people can stay safe and don't have to participate in possible "sectarian" clashes which this Faraz Mir is trying to cause with his continues babbling about how bad "wahabis" are and THEY did it without any proofs, without any solid knowledge and evidence, how stupid is that? Very!

AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: "DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH", THEY SAY "WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS" VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur'an-2:11-12]

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Well Said Serial Guppy

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Faraz Mir..

Assalam-o-alikum..

I have never seen any post by you, when palestenian were dieing, when iraqies were dying, when kashmireis are dying, when bosninan Muslims are dying..

What is that ?

Secondly I am against extremism, I always support moderate Islamic thinking, which is Offcourse Islam. But the point is, did you ever thought that it was not from any external force ?

the moment the bomb blast occcured, ppl start saying that Suumis are involved. Can you justify this behavior ?

I agree with you that, in every respect the people of Pakistan are suffering from the hands of other, powerful, strong ppl, who are controlling the minds and money of the ppl. it should be stopped.

But by posting these images and bashing sunnis , you certainly have shown your biasness , and this will not certainly improve the conditions..

Allah have clearly said in the Surah Asar That All paople are in Loss, execpt who have , and who do good deeds, and who support huq(right) and are patient.

Please have patient, have patience, I am also a sunni, but this dosnt mean that i go out and kill human beings. I feel killing a human being, with my own will is kuffer.

besides Faraz , what abt this thing, i am a jew/hindu fenatic, who want to see distress in Islam and want to Kill Muslims by their own muslims, all i will have to do is just arrange a blast in some shia mosque, and then a blas in some sunni mosque, and then thats it, and then i will count how many ppl were killed after wards. How much hatred is increased.. Just think abt it..

moreover Capitalism is also the root cause of the problem, including the ignorance of the people about ISLAM andThe teaching of ALLAH. a person thinks, what he knows is JUST ISLAM.

Peace in the NAME of ALLAH, and me moderate and have positive thinking. If you blame me, it will be very easy for me to counter attack, but there will be no diffrecne, the real challenge is how to be cool, calm , and act in a better , sensible way.

in the end , I Strongly condemn this violence and massacre, And it cannot be justified by any means.

May Allah give us guidence, and patience, and show us the right path, Ameen

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Allah-o-Akbar

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very sad indeed! Killing of innocent people.. but were we a part of this massacre or part of this problem? Problem facing todays muslims is the fact of proving that they are better muslims than others.. these kiings , bomb blasts are occuring for years and scores have been settled on both sides.. are those who kill are muslims let alone human beings? But sadly we actually helping killers..

  • In Iraq - Iran did we had symathy with any side?
  • In Afghanistan both Talibans and Northern Alliance killed each other..were we supporting one side to kill the other?
  • Did we post pics when both shia and sunnis were killed or were we only saddened when one side was killed?

we have a clear message in Quran..
"Fight in the Way of Allah those who fight against you, but do not transgress the limits, for verily Allah loves not those who transgress the limits" [Quran 2:190]

.. what about the 12 christians killed in Church while praying.. did we felt for those?
.. did we only saw innocent palestinians killed and posted their pics and not innocent jews?
.. did we felt for the people diving from World Trade Center and condemn the brurtal acts or we rejoiced in their sufferings?

we have transgressed our limits and we only see suffering when it befell on us or our near ones or upon our faith.. the day we will feel for other peoples sufferings - the day justice would be done.