Inna Lillah-e-Wa0Inna-Ilehai Rajeoon! 5 People including a Woman Died in Refugi Camps

According to EXPRESS NEWSPAPER Of today 27, May 2009 about 5 ppl including a woman died in Swat Refugee Camps because of different diseases. and the difficultiz of refugeez are also rising.

it is so sorrowful to hear that and if the ignorant Punjabis and Sindhis will keep sleeping like that then the game would definitly be over. the government has failed to protect these poor ppl and have not provided sufficient aid to them. Moreover, their everything is destroyed in war then for what would these innocent ppl go for to their homes and villages which are now totally destroyed in war becoz of governments and talibanic and army ignorance?

this is the news below

Re: Inna Lillah-e-Wa0Inna-Ilehai Rajeoon! 5 People including a Woman Died in Refugi C

^^ I don't see why we should have this thread, when nearly 30 people on Lahore has died today, because of the terrorism... All the sympathies with the 5 dead one, but i must say that they were not living in the paradise before coming to these camps, they were under these animal like taliban's rule.. where if they are not dead with disease, Talibs will kill them any way... for any petty reason..

Re: Inna Lillah-e-Wa0Inna-Ilehai Rajeoon! 5 People including a Woman Died in Refugi C

the behaviour of the regional/provincial parties has been deplorable. PML/Punjab govt has been sending mixed messages (we wont allow camps, we wont permit entry, IDPs should stay in camps, punjab is open to IDPs, nobody should stop citizens from moving) and MQM has been openly hostile (the idiotic strike and then backtracking from the strike).

The only party showing some level of maturity at the moment on the refugees issue is surprisingly PPP. Gilani gave a very categorical statement a few days ago and perhaps it is because they know they 'own' this operation, and political fallout coming from this is going to be theirs. It is a shame that the other parties arent trying to 'own' the refugees too instead of trying to make PR stunts and then issue stupid statements and try to play a game of "why dont IDPs go to the other province?". Shut up and let Swaties decide where they want to go, and do your duty when they get there.

Having said this I recall some news item from Rehman Malik urging refugees to stay in NWFP and saying they'd lose their compensation if they went elsewhere. Jackass.

well not only PML N but PPP itself is also not sincere in this matter and fauzia wahab also gave irresponsible statements in sindh province as if all pashtuns are terrorists

so what do you mean that i dont have any sympathy with those who killed in lahore blast? no hanibal i have not opened thread of lahore coz a thread on lahore blast has been already opened by a fella here

come on the point is provinicial govts are absolutely shameful and corrupt in their response. that is why military action is trouble, you got IDPs and you got black sheeps dressed as IDPs, if anything i think these brutal attacks will increase and gain tenacity because we have an ineffective approach to deal with the issues that come out of this quick fix. You get one problem after another with these military opeartions.

Re: Inna Lillah-e-Wa0Inna-Ilehai Rajeoon! 5 People including a Woman Died in Refugi C

^^ You failed to get the point here....

If we start opening threads on this kind of issues, then i am sure we can have plenty of them.. as Pakistan is a poor country where people die with diseases all the time, at any given time, just visit the Mayo Hospital Lahore there is a tragic story at every corner... this is sad story of Pakistan.

Although you have every right to open a thread on any topic u like, but opening a thread saying that 5/6 people died due to disease in a refugee camp does not carry any weight for me, it rather says that because of the Army operation, these people are suffering big time and operation need to be seized or it is wrong in the first place...

Anyway... The Lahore Blast Example, to show the severity of the problem.. and not to pull your leg for not posting one

You have right to open a thread and i have right to comment on it!!!

Re: Inna Lillah-e-Wa0Inna-Ilehai Rajeoon! 5 People including a Woman Died in Refugi C

^sure you do. but as the discussion goes it appears heartless that if someone dies due to the recent crisis and we say oh well they would've died any way. why msut that be done to show support for military action?eh?

Re: Inna Lillah-e-Wa0Inna-Ilehai Rajeoon! 5 People including a Woman Died in Refugi C

This is war my friend, a long war, i am sure people are suffering big time, people are dying for the reasons which may have avoided in the era of peace... but what can one offer? Pakistan is not USA, even comparing both the countries doesn't make any sense.. yet it is in a state of war, and it have above 2 million displaced people.. would it be easy for any country say USA, to handle this kind of Situation...

People are busy criticizing Pakistan here and there, without even evaluating the magnitude of the problem...

Well hanibal! it is only the responsibility of govt to effectivly handle this situation. and this situation is not a earthquake it is man made itself and when a man made disaster comes then definitly the responsible persons must be taken to task either they are govt officials or taliban. and when in man made disasters u say that one doesnt know what would have been a response to that large extent in case of migration then this is irresponsibility of govt who do not deserve their seats and must resign from their posts.

Every country has the potential to deal with man made stupid disasters and if someone says no then he is the biggest fool and ignorant person because he doesnt know in which conditions the misery arives on poor ppl.

No proper plans were made just their was a lame excuse of taliban, army attacked, ppl migrated to large extent, govt asked for aid to their masters and terrorist super powers which govt will have put into their own bank balances and the poor ppl keep on dying.

shame on our irresponsible approach

U r right!!! we should be shamed for our irresponsible approach, putting every thing on govt. and waiting for a Massiah, who'll come and solve all the problem without bothering us. That's the attitude we are advocating for...

Our prime task is to highlight the negativity of the situation and thats it, there is nothing else we should be doing in order to help others.. its govt who is responsible for all the mess... and the very same govt which we have voted for, and if we have not voted for any govt, it is even worse... we accept others to do our job ( by voting in the right people) or we do not consider anyone good enough to do the job niether we support anyone who is good... but yes, when it comes to critcism, we are on the top and shout as loud as possible, making everyone but overselves, responsible for the problem...

We should be shamed of our-selves that we are sitting under air-conditioner/fans and watching these innocents dying with dieases and hunger.. may they be at any refugee camp or in our neighbour, our only duty is to blame govt for the mess...

Which govt in the recent history has to deal with 2.5 million refugees, even UNO is saying that this is something which happend sixty year back.. but yes our govt is responsible for not providing any shelter at all and these refugees are there without any thing at all, and all they have had is MAN.O.SALWA.

as a matter of fact, if look down to ourselves, and ask that what is there we have ever done for the country, what contribution is there of ours in the building of the nation the answer might be that, we were prominent in destroying govt assets as we lack any positive way of protest, we burn the transport facility to show our anger and very next day we cry for the shortage of the transportation and blame govt. for not doing enough, it is us who are directly responsible for the price-hike in the recent years, yes it is we you have made 200-300% profits over the commodities and yet we blame govt. causse govt is not going to turn back show us a mirror which our other brother may do..

U r right Shame on us...

oh whatever. if only it was your family in shelters. be patriotic but not callous.

Truly sad to see people die in the camps.

Well most of the Talibani leadership is on the run. And soon people will go back.

At least the Islamists Khooni chowk will not great them, this time around.

Martyrdom of so many brave soldiers will ensure that Swatis will be free of Islamists oppression.

Re: Inna Lillah-e-Wa0Inna-Ilehai Rajeoon! 5 People including a Woman Died in Refugi C

I don't remember you opening up threads on the sorrow of losing fellow Pakistanis to brutal deaths by Taliban murderers.

Way more than 5 have died at the hands of the Swat Taliban alone. That's not including the atrocities in more remote villages along the Af-Pak border.

well Pyaaaaaariii CCCCCC GGGURDIYAAAA! in my posts i do not propagate only on blaming one group of responsible persons but i deal with all responsible persons either it is taliban, government, army or us ourselves