Eating “punj kashi Naans”(bread) , sitting around as they would sit in big brothers house I think the British soldiers captured in Iran are not doing as bad as their counterparts, the muslim combatants caught in Gitmo or abu gharaib prision, At least the british had their clothes on?
I Think Iran should apply all those “Humane” “non-torturing” tactics that the soldiers of Abu ghraib prison did in Iraq.
PS: A precedence has been set by US how to handle war prisoners , I think lets be fair to the limy’s and treat them with the same humane way as the Americans do to their prisoners.
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- Iran is a whiney little country with a puny military while those holding war prisoners in Gitmo are the most powerful country in the history of the world.
Word.
Notice any videos of *men? *Big brave Iranians.
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Couple distinctions...
The British being held aren't terrorists with secrets that can benefit the Iranians from their people being killed.
Iran is a whiney little country with a puny military while those holding war prisoners in Gitmo are the most powerful country in the history of the world.
Neither were the people held in Abu Ghraib. They were treated in the worst possible manner.
At least they are being shown on TV, being fed and fully clothed, but those being held hostage in gitmo are being denied even such basic things. Real tough big brave Americans
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Couple distinctions...
The British being held aren't terrorists with secrets that can benefit the Iranians from their people being killed.
Iran is a whiney little country with a puny military while those holding war prisoners in Gitmo are the most powerful country in the history of the world.
Couple of distinctions, yet again…
- Your terrorist is my freedom fighter and your freedom fighter is my terrorist, perceptions, perceptions…
- Might is not Right, puny countries have the same human beings, who would feel as hurt as the American's feel when they loose a father, brother, mother or sister…
PS: But I think if the Americans would understand my Point Number 2, they wouldn’t have voted for Bush the second time round…
Tsk tsk tsk.
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^ We seem to have forgotton what the Lilliputs in Iraq did to the big dogs. From "bring them on" to "cut and run". Some people never learn
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How long did the government of Iraq last? Do you think the Iranian government will last any longer? If the US does attack Iran, they aren't going to play peace keeper again.
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Neither were the people held in Abu Ghraib. They were treated in the worst possible manner.
The worst possible manner? Why just today I read of 200 local tribesmen being held prisoner in the NWFTs in underground dungeons where boiling water was poured on them through holes, and they were periodically beheaded by their Uzbek captors. That would be the pot calling the kettle black eh? That is happening today in your country by Muslims. So let us be careful with intimations of "the *worst".
*Whatever way you want to paint it, kidnapping sailors and holding them hostage is wrong. Using them for propaganda purposes is wrong, and is probably backfiring in the face of Iran. Only a pus*y country would stoop to showing videos of captured 23 year old mother for propaganda purposes.
The reality is that Iran thinks they are going to be attacked. The US Navy has two carriers a few miles off shore, with more operable planes than the entire Iranian Air Force. The Mossad run Debka files has intimated that April 6th is the attack date, and the Russians are telling the Iranians that the US is building up forces on the Eastern border with Afghanistan. The Iranians figure if they have 15 hostages the US will not blast the crap out of their nuclear installations. That is probably as good an explaination as any as to why Iran snatched some sailors. The US has won this round without firing a shot, as they have pressured the Iranians into looking like barbaric idiots.
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^ Taking hostages and using them for propaganda purposes is wrong. How conveniently we tend to forget the biggest hostage camp in the world - Gitmo and how that has backfired in the face of the so called defender of human rights in the world. Talk about arrogance and trying to capture high moral ground. Iran probably took a leaf out of your country's book. People living in glass houses, I am sure you know the rest.
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Gitmo is not the largest hostage camp in the world. It is the most well publicized. But frankly what the hell does Gitmo have to do with Iran? As a matter of fact, the imprisonment of Iranian dissidents dwarfs Gitmo, but you guys are deaf dumb and blind when it comes to abuses in Muslim countries. Iran certainly does not need lessons from us on imprisonment. Funny how you guys cannot stay on one topic without bringing the US into it.
The US is not even a party to this little incident!?
The real point is that Iran is squeezing a 23 year old mother for ripe video clips, written confessions, and other propaganda. What brave manly men they must be.... I bet this woman will rip them a new one when she is free.....
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"Funny how you guys cannot stay on one topic without bringing the US into it. "
Just like you cannot stay on any topic without insulting Muslims.
Frankly Iran is nowhere near to you when it comes to taking hostages and treating them in an inhumane manner.
Now you are claiming that US is not even party to this while just a post above you were crowing how US had won this round. Which one is it. But than frankly according to you America has been winning rounds since before the invasion of Iraq. As I said before some people never learn. Amazing.
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Why bring Iraq, gitmo, Abu Ghraib or US into this? Is it because Iran is one of the leading abusers of human rights in the world and there really isn't a high ground for their supporters to take?
What they are doing with this female soldier is shameful and makes a mockery of their claim of respect for women.
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Huh? Iran is a Human Rights nightmare, and has been for decades!
Read on:
**Scores of political prisoners, including prisoners of conscience, continued to serve prison sentences imposed following unfair trials in previous years. Hundreds more were arrested in 2005, mostly in connection with civil unrest in areas with large minority populations. Internet journalists and human rights defenders were among those detained arbitrarily without access to family or legal representation, often initially in secret detention centres. Intimidation of the families of those arrested persisted. Torture remained commonplace. At least 94 people were executed, including at least eight who were under 18 at the time of their alleged offence. Many sentences of flogging were imposed. The true number of those executed or subjected to corporal punishment was believed to be considerably higher than the cases reported.
http://web.amnesty.org/report2006/irn-summary-eng
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Worst things are happening in US as well, two wrongs dont make right. Dont bloody try to justify what is happening in gitmo, its sickening to see this happening in verbal battle on a message board.
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Here is more reading from the site you linked.
Thousands of detainees continued to be held in US custody without charge or trial in Iraq, Afghanistan and the US naval base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. There were reports of secret US-run detention centres in undisclosed locations where detainees were held in circumstances amounting to “disappearances”. Dozens of Guantánamo detainees went on hunger strike to protest against their harsh treatment and lack of access to the courts; some were reported to be seriously ill. Reports of deaths in custody, torture and ill-treatment by US forces in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantánamo continued to emerge. Despite evidence that the US government had sanctioned interrogation techniques constituting torture or ill-treatment, and “disappearances”, there was a failure to hold officials at the highest levels accountable, including individuals who may have been guilty of war crimes or crimes against humanity. Several trials took place of low-ranking soldiers charged with abusing detainees; in most cases sentences were light. There were reports of police brutality and use of excessive force in the USA. Sixty-one people died after being struck by police tasers, a huge rise over previous years. Sixty people were executed, taking the total to over 1,000 since executions resumed in 1977.
http://web.amnesty.org/report2006/usa-summary-eng
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I don’t get what Gitmo or the US has to do with an Iranian/British situation.
Is it because posters here are American? If so, then posting Amnesty articles like this is just as relevant for Pakistani posters:
Pakistan - Human Rights Concerns
Amnesty International has long been concerned about the persistent pattern of human rights violations occurring in Pakistan. **Arbitrary detention, torture, death in custody, and extra-judicial execution are rampant. The government of Pakistan has failed to protect individuals - particularly women, religious minorities and children - from violence and other human rights abuses committed in the home, in the community, and while in legal custody. It has failed to ensure legal redress after violations have occurred. Since 9-11, individuals suspected of having links with “terrorist” organizations have been arbitrarily detained, denied access to lawyers, and turned over to U.S. custody or to the custody of their home country in violation of local and international law. **
http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/pakistan/index.do
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Eating “punj kashi Naans”(bread) , sitting around as they would sit in big brothers house I think the British soldiers captured in Iran are not doing as bad as their counterparts, the muslim combatants caught in Gitmo or abu gharaib prision, At least the british had their clothes on?
I Think Iran should apply all those “Humane” “non-torturing” tactics that the soldiers of Abu ghraib prison did in Iraq.
PS: A precedence has been set by US how to handle war prisoners , I think lets be fair to the limy’s and treat them with the same humane way as the Americans do to their prisoners.
if Iran also does the same thing what USA did then there is no difference between iran and usa, they have to treat them well and the media should highlight such things and should tell what civilization really means
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right, so what are we discussing here.
or has this just become a contest to see who has bigger peepee?