India's influence in Afghanistan.

Look at all the positive contributions made by India in Afghanistan. No wonder, Afghanistan have a good opinion about India and Indians.

Afghanistan’s influential neighbour, India

By Alastair Leithead
BBC News, Kabul

Bollywood films and actors are very popular in Afghanistan

If you want to go to the cinema in Kabul you’ve got to like Bollywood.

Film buffs here cannot get enough of the Indian export - in the movie halls or through the ripped-off DVDs on sale across the country.

Indian culture is close to people’s hearts here, and Indian money is now being seen to have an impact on their lives.

“We’ve pledged $600m altogether on infrastructure, telecoms, health, education, humanitarian assistance, institutions - a whole cross section,” said Sandeep Kumar, number two at the Indian embassy in Kabul.

“We’re spending more than $110m in the power sector, have given three Airbuses to the national airline, and are building 218km [135 miles] of road at the moment in the south.”

The difference between India and many countries who have offered cash, is that India money is already being spent.

The large blue sign for Habibia High School stands firm outside the huge new three-storey building that is packed with students - the small print boasting the name of the proud donors: “Renovated by Government of India.”

Indian presence

Inside in a calculus class, every desk is full and every gaze flicks between an exercise book and their teacher Ghafoor Mirza, an institution in this famous Kabul school.

Mr Mirza is happy that India helped restore the prestigious school

Three presidents and a king came here to study, but decades of fighting took its toll and all that was left was a bombed-out building - pupils studied sitting in the dust under tents with few text books.

“This was a very good school but it was destroyed in the civil war and was just a skeleton,” said Mr Mirza after setting an exercise.

"Now it’s very good, and we are very happy. It is not only the building the Indians have brought - they have provided us with electricity, water, furniture and everything.

“We are happy because there is a history of friendship between Afghanistan and India and they have given us help like a brother would give to a brother.”

At the end of the longest and straightest road in Kabul is the old presidential palace - its shelled-out gables and twisted roof are a monument to the war which tore this city apart.

In its shadow is a small patch of land with another marble plaque - this time marking where the Indian government will build the country’s new parliament.

But the question many are asking is whether India is more concerned with stalking the corridors of power than simply constructing them.

‘Cosy’ relationship

Afghanistan and India had always been close - until Delhi backed the Russians during the Soviet occupation.

But could this just be a good opportunity to buy political influence when the old enemy Pakistan is not on the best of terms with the region’s newest democracy?

Does India just seek to construct a parliament here or more

“Pakistan does not like the Indians being close to Afghanistan,” argues Afghan political scientist Professor Wadir Safi.

"India has two unfriendly states in its neighbourhood: the People’s Republic of China and Pakistan.

“That is why they are very keen to have good relations with Afghanistan, so it can be a bridge for them to the Central Asian republics of the former Soviet Union.”

Where, of course, resources such as oil, gas and minerals could be very useful to a country with such strong regional ambitions.

President Hamid Karzai’s recent visit to Pakistan was followed by a frosty exchange of views between the two countries, and many Afghans believe Islamabad is at the very least turning a blind eye to Taleban forces attacking across a border that is as long as it is porous.

Mr Karzai’s current visit to India is bound to be a far cosier affair.

Ten ministers and a delegation of business leaders have joined the trip to cement relations between the two countries and set up economic partnerships to bring much needed investment.

Regional security will no doubt be brought up in conversation and India will be griping about Pakistan’s attitude toward Islamic militants in Kashmir, while Afghanistan will moan about the border unrest.

President Karzai cannot live without Pakistan, but after strong words from President Bush on his recent visit, Islamabad will still be smarting.

As ever, Afghanistan is in the middle of it all, but all aid is good aid and all new business is welcome - this time the country’s making the most of it.

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Where was India when over 4 million needed clothing, food and shelter. Afgahnis are a Ahsan faramoosh Qoom.....they have forgotten who took them in with open arms when they were being killed by Russians. Oh yeah, i forgot about the all effing important crappy Bolloywood movies.... most of them dont have enough to eat but going to bollywood movie sure sounds like fun. What a load of crap and self gloating by another hindu on this board.

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i don't think giving aid and support to the humanitarian nightmare that is afghanistan qualifies as "self gloating"

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Oh so I guess giving shelter, food, clothes and homes to over 4 million did not qualify as humanitarian... or it pales in comaprison to skanky bollywood movies?

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maybe it was. how does that have anything to do with this thread?

secular afghans hate pakistan for corrupting their society with the taliban, and taliban-loyalist afghans hate pakistan for mowing down their comrades in waziristan and other places. i guess there are multiple reasons that can be used to explain why they are an “Ahsan faramoosh Qoom” as you put it.

what do you get out of mocking the aid being provided to afghanistan by india? it is obvious that india has made significant financial contributions to a number of sectors that, according to this article, are actually reaching the people and infrastructure.

isn’t that a good thing?

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Oh I forgot Cash is king

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Afghanistan and India had always been close - until Delhi backed the Russians during the Soviet occupation.

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So India backed killing and butchering of millions of Afghanis and one country that saved their namak haram arse is the culprit. What a way to say thankyou. I say we kick all of the afghanis out of pakistan and close the border. Let them die in thei hell hole and lets see how much India help them.

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Nicols John, this is the most retarded (and hillarious) thing you’ve ever posted.

Bollywood…? laughing my A** off.

Besides, does India have anything else to provide besides Bollywood? :rotfl:

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Maybe, you didn’t read the article. India is providing schools, roads, buildings, parlaiment building, airplanes, and busses.
The question is: What has Pakistan provided other than the Taliban?

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That’s more than what they can provide their own people…

How about feeding the hungry of India first who are dying? And then try to build an image of generosity…

Bhookay nai bhookay ki **** **** donon behosh kar gir gaye…

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It’s kind of sad when a country’s biggest, and most unwanted export is “bollywood” :rotfl:

Hey Nicols, people are dying of hunger in Africa, maybe India should send them some bollywod movies. :rotfl:

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Why are you guys so defensive about this? I mean whats with the galli galaouch and all, if India is helping them, well and good we should encourage and commend that, we dont need to jump out of our pants, as we (pakistanis) did alot more during their darkest hours.

I agree with Kaleem though, they are very ahsan faramosh and they will never admit we helped them survive through their dark ages, and nameinuse or whoever said that they hate us for supporting the taliban, well Ive got news for you, they werent too nice before the taliban either.

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I SWEAR PAKISTANI CAN BE AROUSED JUST BY PRAISING INDIA

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^ I swear that Indians have nothing better to do than trool Pakistani board. Let me ask you oh so well intentioned Indians, what exactly was the purpose of this article? Gloat about skanky bollywoood movies? or to show that Begharait, namak haram afghani prefer to be friends with Indians over Pakistanis?

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Naah! the source of Pakistani arousal is just one, and that results in making lots of babies. Can't you see our "healthy and hearty" population growth rate?

When it comes to Bharatis, we simply say "Oh poor Munshis".

p.s. Off course now the same Munshis will jump up and down and give us lecture about making babies. Darn! They will always find fault with Pakistanis. Pot calling the Kettle black. Damn Munshis!

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india is strenthening its relations ship with gulf coutries too by trade
this will extended to central asia

India’s exports to GCC countries between April 2004 and March 2005 amounted to $10 billion, while Indian non-oil imports from GCC countries stood at $7 billion, he said.-Reuters

India and GCC countries plan to finalise a free trade agreement by early 2007, India’s commerce and industry minister said.

http://www.tradearabia.com/tanews/newsdetails_snECO_article102614.html

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Kaleem bhai ka pet dukhnae laga hain. Face it Kaleem, Afghans hate you and they love India, whether you like it or not.

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No love my friend just interests. Had India not been divided this durand issue would ahve put India and Afghanistan agaisnt each other. Persoanlly if Afghanistan benefits from it, its all good.

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yet again a totally irrelevant thread used to gloat Indian progress :hehe:

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India has the aspiration to become a super power like USA…so it tries to emulate USA by giving foreign aid in order to get afghani dependent on indian imports…just like USA did with europe after the world war two (marshall plan;) )

India needs a large and healthy south asian market…helping afghan rebuild the country is a way for them to get people buying their product…so that indian can be richer in the long run…and “eliminate” peacefully USA from south asia :wink: :halo:

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Khan, I dont think you realise that you need opinions in a discussion board, rather than just taking on Indian. If you have opinion post rather than just abusing people............. that is typical of fanatics who run out of arguments...... :-)
The purpose of this thread is that Indians and Afghanistanis are talking to each other and coming together in trade/ entertainment etc. etc. If that' doesn't interest you don't comment, or shoot your opinion.... :-)