Kashmir has only one problem…Pakistan wants an Islamic solution, whereas India wants no solution.
Any freedom struggle must win sooner or later. Do freedom fighters terrorize innocents? Do freedom fighters terrorize people of the same ethnic group of another religion?
Pakistan says that 700000 soldiers are positioned in Kashmir. Numerically and proportionally it is not possible for India to keep soldiers in such a large numbers in one state. This article says that 600000 soldiers are there in Kashmir. There is some confusion. Kashmir is a troublesome bordering state, and I think some hundred thousands will always remain there on both the sides of the border, so Pakistan includes border security force into the calculation, I suppose.
Indian soldiers are torturing people in Kashmir. As a matter of fact, wherever in the world if army tortures citizens, always some emigration takes place. Pakistan has been saying for some years that Indian soldiers kill innocents, rape women, have killed 70000 citizens and every day Pak tv includes minimum 20 to 100 figures in the list, but we do not find if any one of Muslim community is migrating from Kashmir.
Yes, one community has emigrated from valley. Kashmiri ethnic Hindus had to leave as per ultimatums given by the freedom fighters.
Indian leaders were always interested in handicapping Pakistan. It was an answer to division of India. We did so from Junagad to Bangladesh. In Kashmir we missed. Once we went to UNO, we must have stressed Pakistan for a plebiscite, and compelled Pakistan to leave all occupied areas in time. (Re. UN resolution over plebiscite issue!)
Was Pakistan interested in a plebiscite? The attack from Pak side in Kashmir in 47-48 was resisted by the people of Kashmir. Pakistan never tells this history to its people. A plebiscite in late 40s or early 50s was not favorable to Pakistan.
Sheikh ab dulla was not interested in the portion of Pak occupied Kashmir, that area was an outlaw for him.
And today we have reached nowhere. For one thing I am sure that Islamiet is not a solution to Kashmir.
RF, by inland I meant totally surrounded by one country. Secondly, of course India has the accession papers, that is what Nehru went with when he approached the UN. Dont tell me the international bodies have just taken India's word that we have the papers. Regarding India annexing Hyderabad and Junagadh, good for India, and India getting ownership of Kashmir and sending the army before Pakistan could enter Srinagar, bad for Pakistan.
PD, you mean by moving on, Pakistan now is not claiming whole of Kashmir but wants to negotiate with India to get some part of it (mainly the Kashmir valley). Pakistan does not want status quo nor wants to give any territorial concession, but now that they have not been successful in taking Kashmir by force wants to discuss with India about giving Pakistan some part of Kashmir. Basically the demands are the same, the strategy is different.
PD, you mean by moving on, Pakistan now is not claiming whole of Kashmir but wants to negotiate with India to get some part of it (mainly the Kashmir valley). Pakistan does not want status quo nor wants to give any territorial concession, but now that they have not been successful in taking Kashmir by force wants to discuss with India about giving Pakistan some part of Kashmir. Basically the demands are the same, the strategy is different.
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I suggest you take a closer look at seven possible solutions for kashmir proposed by Musharaff. He is talking way beyond your imagination. Again, he has proposed seven different models for discussion. I have a feeling surya that you are being negative.
But you just tell me one thing first - Do you agree or not that there is a serious problem in kashmir?
I suggest you take a closer look at seven possible solutions for kashmir proposed by Musharaff. He is talking way beyond your imagination. Again, he has proposed seven different models for discussion. I have a feeling surya that you are being negative.
But you just tell me one thing first - Do you agree or not that there is a serious problem in kashmir?
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Ph.D I am not denying that the problem does not exist in Kashmir. But this has moved beyond a territorial dispute and has become a clash of egos. It is for this reason Pakistan cannot give concessions or appear to give concessions and so cant India. It will have to involve give and take on both sides. Lets hope Musharaff's ideas help in moving the process to its logical end.
The rulers in the Islamic lands have placed the affairs of the Ummah under the control of America and put 99% of the solutions in her hands. America is keeping them busy with plans that, to the highest order, serve the interests of the enemy. Starting from Palestine, there are the plans of Tenet, Mitchell and now the ‘Road Map’, as well as handing over the other occupied regions of 1967. Then there is Cyprus and the Annan plan, South Sudan and the Machakos Protocol, then Kashmir and the United Nations resolutions. It has come to the point that America is even studying the issues related to Chechnya with Russia. After all of this there is Central Asia, the Caucasus and then, after that the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq, the Arabian Peninsula and the Gulf.
SRINAGAR: An Indian Army officer, two militants and a Muslim couple were killed in held Kashmir, police said on Sunday.
The soldier was killed when suspected militants attacked an army patrol in Shopian, 50 kilometres south of Srinagar late Saturday.
Afterwards as the army cordoned off part of the town and started a search operation, shooting broke out which killed the two militants. Meanwhile, an overnight explosion in a house in Lolab in the Kupwara district killed a Muslim couple. More than 39,500 people have died in the struggle for Kashmir liberation since 1989. Militants however put the toll between 80,000 and 100,000. India and Pakistan routinely exchange fire along the Line of Control. —AFP
well as u know Kashmir is unreported world… some of its areas have never seen a media person, every day u hear about 1 or 2 incidents which are reported by media where as others go under cover. where are the thousands who have disappeared, taken by indian army and never return … their families are still waitin.
ok about troops some media say that 700 000 troops are in kashmir, tell the people of kashmir when Pakistan and india were near to war how many convoys of indian army entered kashmir and to seal its borders, how many tanks and ammunition they got with them and did they took it back after no war…NO…
what the indians are sayin now about withdrawin troops is a bias description, every days thousands go and in the evenin thousands come, showin these things on media which is indian and western influenced cant hide the truth…
