^ That may be, but don't u think if someone feels that their race/culture etc is being attacked...shouldn't they have the right to defend/respond? We should only look at what they are saying in this forum/thread....its not like everyone has the time to follow a particular poster around to get an idea of what his intentions are. My 2 cts :)
yes, no insult intended. Im just kidding around with punjabee in USA :) I like him, thats why I offered burnol :P
Sometimes generalizations do hold- people don't just make them up, they're there for a reason. There will always be exceptions though.
However, i find some of these posts extremely insulting to indians. Yes, this is a pakistani forum, but that does not mean that insults against whole cultures are to be tolerated.
i never said if a guy talks to you he wants to sleep with you…its just that i don’t see any reason to be friendly with any type of guy …
& you actually seem more western since you think its FINE to talk to a guy :]
well yeah if you live abroad you change your views, can’t really blame you …
& yes indians do think about there rep but from what i’ve seen that really isn’t the case! same goes for some pakistanis as well, i guess it all depends on how your brought up …
I'm an Indian girl married to a Pakistani. And why did I choose to marry him? Because I liked his deen. Generally, (note generally!) Pakistanis are on two sides of the scale. Either really passionate about the deen or really passionate about the dunya. Finding a religious Indian brother was like impossible! So I went for the Pakistani religious dude, and the same thing my husband went for, he liked the way I think, and our views were the same. I think the main thing is if your views and goals in life are generally compatible, its all about compatibility, being from a certain culture doesn't necessarily mean that you MUST marry someone from your own culture. Those people who married people from other cultures, probably didn't find what they were looking for in thier own community, so they had to look outside.
I totally agree with Sr. Redvelvet's post given earlier. Very true.
There are many similarities between Indians and Pakistanis. As far as I know, izzat is as important for Indians as it is for Pakistanis. Over the years, my family has had Indian friends, all those years that we visited each other, I never noticed much difference between us. Only that some of them were Hindu of course.
I must say though, that most of the Pakistani females I met in all my life, quite often had more nakhray than Dutch, Indian, British, French or females from any other nationality, but that's probably because I grew up being bored by my parents Pakistani friends visiting us or us visiting them. There were very few Pakistani families I liked and that hasn't changed in all those years. Most of my contacts in my youth were Pakistanis, so it's only normal that most of the arrogant females I ever met were Pakistani females. I think in reality, there are as many Pakistani females as of any other country and culture.
Each country and culture has something positive and something negative. Not one is better than the other.
Firstly ones nationality has very very little to do with how they act towards the opposite gender. On to Pakistani and Indian girls. I am of course speaking from a male point of view. Guys want to have fun but marry a nice respectful Pakistani girl. They basically want their cake and to eat it as well. Oh yes this post is going to be full of bad puns and cliches. You have been warned.
They want a Pakistani girl to act like a "western" or in this case an "indian" girl but at the end of the day they will think ill of her. Straight up fact. Its a judgemental bias based on cultural upbringing linked with a very conservative society that places incorrect character judgements on gender relations.
Indians so very luckily don't have those hang ups. Its not an issue of izzat or being better. Its simply an issue of different cultures. For them a guy and a girl grabbing lunch is no big issue. Imagine if you grabbed lunch with a Pakistani female your age in a public area. Everybody and their dead grandmother would be talking about it.
Now on to an issue people have not highlighted. In Pakistani society it is okay for a guy to date. Its not okay for a girl. Its an issue of izzat, of her being free and of guys being guys. Pakistan society smacks so much of 16th century europe it is sickening. Back to the point. Indian girls can date and its not an issue. So yes they are thus more open and approachable. Not because they are better. But because they don't have to worry at the end of the day about some arcahic notions that are part of a male dominated society.
Paki Girls for a lack of a better term have to be stuffy old ice queens due to societal constraints. Not by choice. Look you and I both know that went it comes to our moms and family, the fact that the girl has been in a previously relationship no matter how innocent will be preceived in the worst possible manner possible. Questions of a very crude nature would be raised and the like.
And please do not be under the assumption that Pakistani girls by any standard do not want what they see other girls having. A relationship with a guy is just as much on their mind as it is ours. However they have more obstacles then we do. More important a girl is a girl. She deserves to be swept off her feet and treated properly. Just because society provides them an unfair playing field does not mean they do not have the same desires as indian women. Or that they do not seek companionship. They do.
The only issue is that they have it ingrained into their heads that they can not do certain things openly while Indian girls can. And most of the guys reading will attest to this. At the end of the day you want a girl who has not dated a lot or dated at all.
So if you want to blame anything. Blame men and the male dominated society that is Pakistan.
Rather than engaging in a tit for tat type slanging match, it was imperative for someone to highlight the underlying issues as to why there is differences:k:
i never said if a guy talks to you he wants to sleep with you...its just that i don't see any reason to be friendly with any type of guy ...
& you actually seem more western since you think its FINE to talk to a guy :]
well yeah if you live abroad you change your views, can't really blame you ...
& yes indians do think about there rep but from what i've seen that really isn't the case! same goes for some pakistanis as well, i guess it all depends on how your brought up ...
There we go another generalization. You think girls in the west are ok with speaking to guys and in Pakistan girls don't speak to guys or try to avoid speaking to them?? Dude! Which planet do u live on again?
^ That may be, but don't u think if someone feels that their race/culture etc is being attacked...shouldn't they have the right to defend/respond? We should only look at what they are saying in this forum/thread....its not like everyone has the time to follow a particular poster around to get an idea of what his intentions are. My 2 cts :)
Thanks !
Yes i get what you are saying..but he even posts in threads where his culture/race is not being attacked and then he trolls in those threads. Read his few posts in WA/PA & other forums and you will find out how obsessed he is with Pakistanis...and the hatred he has for us people.
Not that i am trying to get personal here or having a go at him but i have been noticing this for some time now so i thought why not just ask him ?
Every person inclduing him have a right to say and do what they want to but this person just does'nt let go of a chance to bash pakistanis.
Pls quote any post of mine in this thread or another where I have "bashed" Pakistanis or displayed my "hatred" towards them.
I stand up for what I believe is correct, and will defend my country/culture if I need to (as I am sure a lot of Pakistanis would do too) but I do not stoop to cheap personal attacks or abusive language.
When you people are talking about hindus, please say hindus, because there ARE indian muslims out there, in which things like not mixing with males/females, izzat, etc, are very important. Many of the muslim indian families I know are actually more conservative than pakistanis, and I think this is so because of the presence of another culture (the hindus) that make you want to hold on more strongly to your beliefs and separate yourselves from them.
And there’s no catfight here because the indians are more “down to earth” as the original poster stated