Here is Afridi’s record against India in Pakistan. Although he has only played 3 matches, but has played well in all 3 of them :k:
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St
3 164 72 54.66 0 1 2 1/38 56.00 0 1 0
Just trying to put my point across:blush:
Is this test or ODI record?
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ODI record.
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Who will you drop if you want to bring in Waqar? I personally think it'll have to be Shabir. If that is the case, then we might as well say good bye to him as his self-confidence will hit rock bottom after first having his bowling action questioned and then getting dropped from the team in favor of Waqar. How long we are going to rely on the old hands is another question. these news guys have been playing well. I say let them have a go at India. It might well be their only chance at playing such a high pressure series and after the series we'll atleast be able to seperate men from boys. so yeah, totally against brining old cricketers back.
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After we seperate the men from the boys, we will have lost the India series, and won't see India back in Pakistan after 15 years!
If it's men your after, then I suggest we stick with Waqar, Moin, Saqlain, and anyone else that showed the greatest success against India in 1999.
Do you guys remember 1999? Pakistan on numerous occasions defeated India, in India, in Sharjah, Australia and in other tournaments! That was quite a memorable year.
I'm against the inclusion of Afridi, but considering this is both team's biggest series, India will come to Pakistan with their strongest team! Not any 'bits and pieces' player, who played good for one week. Watch for India to attack us from the beginning. India has changed a lot, and those guys know how to handle pressure!
If a boy isn't selected for the India series, it's not the end of the world. Countries izzat is on the line, and handing it to a 19 year old may be a little risky.
Indian tour schedule ready: PCB
Indian tour schedule ready: PCB
K J M Varma | January 30, 2004 15:55 IST
Brushing aside criticism over the delay in working out the schedule of the India tour next month, Pakistan Cricket Board said it was ready with the itinerary but waiting for approval of the venues by its Indian counterpart.
PCB Chairman Shaharyar Khan said the schedule for the tour had been worked out in consultation with the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) and would be announced after the Indian security officials, scheduled to visit Pakistan next week, finalised the venues for the three Tests and five one-dayers.
“The tentative schedule has been finalised. We are awaiting the visit of Indian security officials to finalise the venues for specific matches,” he said.
Discounting reports that the two countries had not yet worked out a match schedule even though the series was hardly a month away, Khan said it had been tentatively decided that the Indian team would arrive on March 3.
They would play a one-day practice match before the first Test expected to be played on March 11. The remaining two Tests would be played after a three-day break in between, followed by the one day internationals.
Khan conceded that there could be some differences over venues as PCB wanted Karachi and Peshawar to host matches while Indians were wary about these two cities which were also boycotted by two cricket teams that visited Pakistan in recent past due to security concerns.
“Karachi and Peshawar have been deprived of cricket and should get their due. What we would like to absolutely make clear is that Karachi and Peshawar have not had any cricket,” Khan said.
“People there (in India) are rightly concerned. But in our discussions with the Indian security team we will adjust in a spirit of give and take. That is another reason why the schedule has not been announced,” he said.
Once again promising to accord the level of security being provided to US President George Bush and President Gen Pervez Musharraf to the Indian cricketers, Khan said this was one aspect which was being looked into by PCB in all earnest.
"They will be accorded VVIP security. The only flip side to it is that they can not go shopping and sight-seeing. We are going to give the Indian team the security at the level of American president.
“I can understand your boys feeling nervous. Our boys are nervous too. Let your team come here and see I am sure they will relaxed,” he said while recounting how the Pakistan team overcame anxiety when it last visited India in 1999 amid threats of Shiv Sena disrupting the series.
“But the moment we landed in Palam airport, we realised the level of security. The security was so tight that Indian security officials dressed in Pakistani blazers travelled in dummy bus through the normal route while our cricketers were taken through a different route,” said Khan who had accompanied the team as manager.
“After seeing all this our boys felt very relaxed. The Indian team will feel the same way when it arrives here. I can assure you.”
Khan also promised to prevail on the Pakistan government to allow Indian fans to cross over from Wagah border to witness the matches in the same way as India allowed Pakistanis in 1999.
"Over 2000 Pakistani fans were allowed to cross into India by buses to watch the match between India and Pakistan at Mohali.
“The fans were given a warm welcome. They added so much colour and the atmosphere was great. At the end of the match we saw Pakistani crowd shouting slogans like India-Pakistan ‘dosti zindabad’. We will try to allow as many Indian fans we can to witness the matches here,” he said.
The PCB chief also said he had received requests from about 160 Indian journalists to be given accreditation for the historic series.
PCB was also eagerly awaiting the Indian delegation to arrive at Islamabad and Khan said he was in constant touch with BCCI President Jagmohan Dalmiya with whom things were being worked out smoothly.
The Indian delegation, he said, wanted to visit on February 2-3 but their visit was put off by a couple of days owing to Eid holidays.
PCB chief admits India favourites
PCB chief admits India favourites
January 30, 2004 20:21 IST
Last Updated: January 30, 2004 20:22 IST
Observing that it would be a “challenge” to rein in India during the upcoming series, Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Shaharyar Khan has expressed the hope that his team will even out the visitors’ advantage with some inspired cricket.
“There is no doubt that the Indian team is doing extremely well. They are on a high. We have also done well in Test matches in New Zealand. But I think any rational person would make India favourites, purely on cricketing standards,” Khan said.
“However, India and Pakistan matches have their own motivation and enthuse certain spirit which is good and evens out India’s advantage,” he said.
Not one to be “demoralised” by the opposition’s strength, Khan, a former diplomat who also accompanied the Pakistan team to India during its tour in 1999, said his side would bank on its strong bowling to outplay the Indians.
"The Indians are playing with spirit in Australia. They have taken the Aussies to this stage of levelling the Tests series. In fact they should have won the series.
“But we have also returned from New Zealand in high spirit. Also we are playing at home. India’s strength is in batting, we have an edge in bowling. It will be a good contest.”
“Even though the Indian team has come up in cricketing terms, we are not demoralised. In fact, it is a challenge and I think we will rise to meet it,” Khan said.
On the simmering controversy over former all-rounder Wasim Akram’s assistance to Indian bowlers, Khan said the issue had been “blown out of proportion” and Akram would soon be joining the training camp to train the bowlers for the India series.
“All senior cricketers give juniors tips. It does not mean they are preparing the enemy. Wasim, I am sure, will help our bowlers in the camp. I am sure he will come.”
The invitation to Akram as also to the legendary Imran Khan to help out the current crop follows from the belief of PCB that it would be the bowlers who will win matches in the series comprising three Tests and five one-dayers.
While Pakistan would rely heavily on trump card Shoaib Akhtar, Khan was also confident of the other speedster Mohammad Sami coming good in the series beginning in first week of March.
“Shoaib is our main weapon. But when on song, this boy Sami is very good. He took 116 wickets in one county season. He won one match for us in New Zealand while Shoaib won another. Sami is terrific, we should not underestimate him. All he needs is a little fine-tuning.”
Asked to analyse the reasons for the recent success of the Indian team, Khan said “I reckon the capacity of your team not to be complacent and ability to learn professionally how to do better has helped”.
Khan said he considered Sachin Tendulkar a master who had perfected his art while others like Rahul Dravid and Virender Sehwag were also coming of age.
“Tendulkar is a master. There is no room for improvement as far as he is concerned. In bowling, India have young pacemen like Zaheer, Nehra and there is this young kid Pathan who have strengthened the team.”
He also felt that the attitude of the Indian team appeared to have made a big difference. "They have this capacity – to arrive at the international stage and then say we have to move ahead. I think this capacity of giving that just little bit of extra takes India to a higher level.
“Also, there is no cut off. A player like Dravid, even after making so many centuries is not satisfied. Even at this stage he is looking upwards. To me this attitude is because of education. This is born of educated minds. Education allows them to absorb and act upon on the advise of their coach and professions. They are truly turning into professionals,” Khan said.
On the contrary, Pakistan, he said, has suffered due to lack of motivation. “Our batsmen make thirties and forties and get out. We need someone who can occupy the crease and bat for a long innings.”
The country has failed to produce technically sound batsman because of lack of training at the school level. “We do not produce good batsmen because there are no coaching facilities for young cricketers. Players should be coached at an young age. Their techniques need to be corrected at that age. You can only improve slightly later,” he said.
he played only three matches 
its an excellent record :k: but bowling average 
Actually his bowling is OK. The average of 56 is misleading. His bowling figures are 1/38, 1/42 and 0/26. Which is not bad for a sixth bowler…who’s job is to control the flow of runs, not neccessarly take wickets.
Afridi should be on the team. Remember his performance under Miandad last time? That was the best portion of his career. He is a player who can win a game single handedly. If you guys don't want him on the team because of inconsistent batting then you would have to question every player being on the team except for Yasir Hameed and Shoaib Akhter.
As for Waqar Younis i would take out Shabbir Ahmed without even thinking twice. The future of this team is not Shabbir Ahmed, its Umer Gul.
hope he performs better under miandad :k:
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*Originally posted by Peoples Champ: *
After we seperate the men from the boys, we will have lost the India series, and won't see India back in Pakistan after 15 years!
If it's men your after, then I suggest we stick with Waqar, Moin, Saqlain, and anyone else that showed the greatest success against India in 1999.
Do you guys remember 1999? Pakistan on numerous occasions defeated India, in India, in Sharjah, Australia and in other tournaments! That was quite a memorable year.
I'm against the inclusion of Afridi, but considering this is both team's biggest series, India will come to Pakistan with their strongest team! Not any 'bits and pieces' player, who played good for one week. Watch for India to attack us from the beginning. India has changed a lot, and those guys know how to handle pressure!
If a boy isn't selected for the India series, it's not the end of the world. Countries izzat is on the line, and handing it to a 19 year old may be a little risky.
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Edit: A series against India is just another cricket tournament. I am sure ours or India's "izzat" does not depend on it. Nothing changes if we lose to them. Same is the other way. OTOH, its someone's career that is on the line here. You choose. Waqar for one or two more seasons of unguranteed cricket or Shabbir for 6-7 seasons.
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*Originally posted by Zoab_Khan: *
Afridi should be on the team. Remember his performance under Miandad last time? That was the best portion of his career. He is a player who can win a game single handedly. If you guys don't want him on the team because of inconsistent batting then you would have to question every player being on the team except for Yasir Hameed and Shoaib Akhter.
As for Waqar Younis i would take out Shabbir Ahmed without even thinking twice. The future of this team is not Shabbir Ahmed, its Umer Gul.
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Its quite obvious you haven't heard what Afridi himself has to say about his philosophy to learn and adapt his batting. I dont see after hearing his latest interview you'd have the same opinion abt him.
Secondly, howis Shabbir not the future?
Shabbir is one of the best finds of the rebuilding process along with Yasir. The question does arise that if we bring back Waqar than Shabbir will have to sit the series out. On the other hand can he play after being reported for throwing? Also we will have to see how the bowlers shape up after messrs Imran, Wasim and Aaqib have coached them. I feel that coaching should be on a continous basis throughout the series and at least one of these three should be available throughout a match to give tips and advice to the bowlers as the match is being played. We need to and should employ all our resources to the best effect. I agree with Peoples Champ that it will be a very prestigious series and Pakistan should deploy all the available resources to derive maximum advantage for our team. Mind you after todays defeat and if the Aussies can inflict a similar defeat on India during the finals than that will help our cause as it will deflate the Indian team to an extent. If they win the finals, than they will be on a high and rampant and very difficult to control.
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Its quite obvious you haven't heard what Afridi himself has to say about his philosophy to learn and adapt his batting. I dont see after hearing his latest interview you'd have the same opinion abt him.
Secondly, howis Shabbir not the future?
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What did Afridi say in his latest interview?
And I agree with Ehsan bhai on Shabbir and Yasir. They're the best new finds.
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What did Afridi say in his latest interview?
And I agree with Ehsan bhai on Shabbir and Yasir. They're the best new finds.
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On Geo's Match Box, the host asked him about his batting and if he would be more sensible next time, he said no I believe I should play my natural game and be aggressive. Clearly he doesnt get it. Bottom line is you can forget that Afridi will play any different under Javed. He was very vehement in his statement that he ain't changing.
yes, n he said that wen i come back (as if) my aim will be to break the record of the fastest 50 
yup. Further proof that goes against Afridi.
Its always a good thing to play your natural game. Can you imagine Wajahtullah Wasti trying to play like Afridi? He's agressive in every aspect of Cricket and he will remain that way. Only thing he can do is improve his batting technique and shot selection while being aggressive. Last time under Miandad, he played really well...it was his best time of his career. Thats probably the only time he played consistent. lets see what selectors do.