but dont forget sami n shabir ahmad they r on fire
Azhar is also looks in a good nick with both bowl n bat
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yes, but he has to perform really well to find a place in the team coz razzaq is in a good form too.
I don't think anyone can claim to make an educated guess on the fate of the Indo-Pak series, both teams have come through in the last 1 year or so, and India has not played Pakistan in a while.. we will just have to wait and see how it goes..
I think if india come to pakistan i am damn sure, indians batsman will give a srong headache to pakistan side. Pakistani curators will be in two minds, if they make fast pitches there own batsman cannot handle it and if they make slow pitches then indians batsman will have upper hand.
So hope for the best.
^ You must make pitches to suit your batsmen. Surely Pak batsmen can play pace better than spin?
The Indians will handle both easily or badly depending on how well your bowlers bowl. But one things for sure, don't depend on one person to be your savior. Both teams will have to be disciplined and focused, and the one who does it better will win.
Pakistan's looking down the barrel of a whooping of a lifetime if they don't pull their socks really high up.
The Subcontinent teams are famous for batting on slow pitches, and i dont think so that pakistan can handle fast and bouncy pitches.
Hope for the best
*just to confirm that indian cricket chief jagmohan dalmiya has confirmed once again ina press conference today that, ** india will tour pakistan, from the beginning of march to mid april ** for 3 tests and 5 odi’s. yeaaaaaah babayyyyyyyyy :k: :bhangra: 
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Rats.. right in the heart of the second semester. :p
It will be a very tough series.
India doesn't have the bowling potential, Pakistan with the bowling. India will experienced world class batsmen, Pakistan with new guns. Pakistan at home, with probably fast tracks, India better with slow. India maybe winners in Australia, Pakistan victorious at NZ.
Like Tony Greig says it, "It's all happening here today folks!"
^ Oh pls, we may not have Shoaib but we have a good enough bowling attack for Pakistan. What do you think, the Aussies were bowled out by Boycott's mum? Give us a break, I've had enough of Pakistanis saying 'India does not have a bowling attack'. Suffering heavens...
Your only bowling is Kumble, and Khan.
Pathan is emerging, just like the Pakistani Batsmen.
Kartik is useless. Nehra is useless too.
What else do you have? And India is a VERY GOOD TEAM, and will be a challanger for number one if they beat Australia. No one is denying that, but not always can Kumble do the job for you.
If you had watched the game today, he and Pathan were the ONLY ONES doing the job.
Also, when I mean strong bowling I mean, a bowling attack able to end a team at 250.. 300. Not 450.
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^ Oh pls, we may not have Shoaib but we have a good enough bowling attack for Pakistan. What do you think, the Aussies were bowled out by Boycott's mum? Give us a break, I've had enough of Pakistanis saying 'India does not have a bowling attack'. Suffering heavens...
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Like PC says a good bowling attack can finish the opposition off quickly. Your batting is awesome but when you score 705 runs your bowlers do not have enough firepower to finish the opposition off. If your bowling attack was very good than your captain would have enforced the follow on. The same goes for our batting we do not have a good enough batting line up to put up a good score. Probably saying that India does not have a bowling attack is not correct, however it is true to say that you do not have a strong enough attack.
India to tour Pakistan in March
Wisden Cricinfo staff
January 5, 2004
India’s tour to Pakistan will start on March 1, and will include three Tests and five one-day internationals. Jagmohan Dalmiya, president of the Indian board, confirmed this after a working committee meeting of the board in Kolkata. “The detailed itinerary is still in the drawing board,” he said, according to a report by Press Trust of India. “We are talking to Pakistan board officials on this.”
Chalking out the Indian team’s programme for the next few months, Dalmiya informed that the Pakistan series will be followed by a tour to Bangladesh for two Tests and three ODIs. Then, after resting for a couple of months, the players will be off for the Asia Cup in July, before taking part in a one-day triangular series involving Australia and Pakistan in August. “The exact venue of the triseries is yet to be finalised,” said Dalmiya. “It will be either in Scotland, Ireland or Holland.”
India are also scheduled to play three one-dayers in England in September just before the Champions Trophy, which starts on September 10.
© Wisden Cricinfo Ltd
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If you had watched the game today, he and Pathan were the ONLY ONES doing the job.
Also, when I mean strong bowling I mean, a bowling attack able to end a team at 250.. 300. Not 450.
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Yup, there were only 2 bowlers out there today and that is why Ganguly did not enforce the FO. Kumble was dog tired and even Pathan was beginning to look a bit ragged.
However we have managed to bowl out the Aussies for 323 at Brisbane and 197 at Adelaide. Flash in the pan, you will say. Maybe, maybe not. It could be the psychologist's work or sheer adrenalin. Bottom line is I trust our bowlers to not be excessively profligate like they used to be in the past, and once in a while for reasons unknown even bowl out the opposition cheaply.
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^ Oh pls, we may not have Shoaib but we have a good enough bowling attack for Pakistan. What do you think, the Aussies were bowled out by Boycott's mum? Give us a break, I've had enough of Pakistanis saying 'India does not have a bowling attack'. Suffering heavens...
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So far in this series, Indian bowling has been successfull only once against the Australian and that was at Adelaide 2nd inning which India won, other then that, bowling has been below par.
I personally think Indian bowling took a huge blow when they lost Harbajhan for injury for couple months, he will definitly miss the test series against Pak, all will depend on Kumble and Kartik.
I guess Kumble will be tired after this long Aussie tour, so he may not perform to his maximum.
:flower2: Pakistan act to defuse security fears :flower2:](http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2004/JAN/048868_PAK_19JAN2004.html)
- Wisden Cricinfo staff
January 19, 2004
The Pakistan Cricket Board has acted swiftly to ease concerns over safety reported among the Indian players, announcing that “presidential-level security” will be provided throughout the forthcoming series between the two old rivals.
“We are aware of the concerns expressed by some of the Indian players. We are determined to provide presidential kind of security to the team once they land in Pakistan,” said a PCB spokesman. “We are in regular contact with Jagmohan Dalmiya [the Indian board president] over this delicate issue and other related matters.”
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** Jagmohan Dalmiya: has been in regular touch with the Pakistan board © Getty Images **
The spokesman also looked to play down last week’s terrorist bomb attack in Karachi, which left 11 people injured. “It is unfortunate that it happened at a time when we are in the process of finalising details of the tour … but I am sure everything will be okay and trouble-free, and Karachi will host matches against India as planned.”
The importance of adequate security was underlined by Rameez Raja, the PCB’s chief executive. “We are committed to provide the Indian team the best security,” he said, “and for that got the needed clearance and the advice from the interior ministry.”
The Indian board has taken measures of its own, announcing that a special three-man team will travel to Pakistan in the coming weeks to oversee arrangements.
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How will Pakistan fare in India?
Seven steps to heaven
Wisden Comment by Kamran Abbasi
January 19, 2004
Many sins are forgiven in the name of rebuilding. One sin that will not fit into that category, however, is defeat against India. So Javed Miandad and Inzamam-ul-Haq may well look to positives in the one-day defeats to New Zealand and earlier to South Africa, but in a few weeks their pleas of mitigation will not be heard above the deafening roar of public expectation.
For now, they are right to point to success in both Test series as a truer indication of this team’s progress than the uncertain meaning of one-day results. It is easy to forget that Pakistan are less than one year from their most disastrous World Cup and current progress is good, perhaps better than could have been hoped for. However, India are progressing too - and they are building on a successful World Cup.
All this boils down to trouble for Pakistan unless they can play to their traditional strength, which is bowling. One question-mark that hangs over India’s rise in Australia is whether or not their star batsmen were flattered by Australia’s bowlers. But this is also a lesson for Pakistan: go into the India series with a half-baked bowling attack and Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar and VVS Laxman will prevail. The present strategy of two speed merchants followed by an assortment of novices and trundlers is unlikely to bowl India out once, let alone twice, unless Shoaib Akhtar is on fire.
So what do Pakistan need to do to preserve an outstanding home record against India?
Strategy 1: If it ain’t broke don’t fix it
There is a danger in too much experimentation. Reward the current group of players by sticking with them … mostly.
Strategy 2: Unpredictably is a virtue in sensible measure
There’s a danger in too little experimentation, too - it’s equivalent to a lack of creativity. Pakistan’s team formula has been too predictable. Javed and Inzamam tinkered with it only in the final one-day match against New Zealand, almost with spectacular results.
Strategy 3: Support the Colossus
Inzamam’s batting is commanding, his captaincy is not. A change in leader would be madness at this stage, and Inzamam can be successful provided his advisers are astute. Stand up Javed Miandad, Yousuf Youhana and Moin Khan: you can make or break Inzy.
Strategy 4: Play to your strengths
Bowling is the route to success. India will be undone by high speed or high-class spin. Shoaib Akhtar’s fitness is crucial; Mohammad Sami must rediscover his length and patience — which he lost most alarmingly in the New Zealand one-day series. They need to be backed up by two frontline bowlers. Pakistan’s current bowling attack is appetising after the first two, and India’s middle order is prone to feasting. Also India’s bowlers do not need to be countered by more than seven batsmen (including Moin).
Strategy 5: Play to the Razzler’s strengths
Abdul Razzaq’s alarming decline as a pace bowler means that he should be used as a batsman who sometimes bowls. This is balanced by his brilliant one-day batting form. Is he now the world’s most destructive batsman under lights? All this should point to a move up the order and in responsibility.
Strategy 6: Don’t compare apples with oranges
Pakistan should stop thinking that Shoaib Malik is a rival for Saqlain Mushtaq’s place. Malik is competing with Shahid Afridi, Azhar Mahmood and Abdul Razzaq, while Saqlain is in a different bowling league. It is time to accept Malik’s limitations. The India series will also be a time for wise heads.
Strategy 7: Return of the prodigals
Remember Saqlain’s endless spells from one end, combined with high pace from the other? The India series will be a war of attrition, and Saqlain has the armoury. Only Pakistan could treat their only world-class spinner so dismally. Remember too Afridi’s attitude and destructive force? In Pakistan against India — under Javed’s beady eye — he could be a phoenix.
Kamran Abbasi is a London-based cricket writer and deputy editor of the British Medical Journal.
^ wow. nice article, I must say!
I completly agree with him.:k:
When is PCB going to announce the schedule for this series?