Indian tour of Pak

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*Originally posted by funguy: *
So it was never about the Pakistani government's so called "terrorist" activities in Kashmir and all the cross-border crap Indians always talk about. It's about the elections.

Shame on all the Indians who have been supporting their govt's stance to date. At least now you should all openly condemn their policies on sports.
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Well previously...It was Terrorism.But this time it sounds like Election.If this report is to be beleived then it is pathetic.
But then this report didnt quote anyone.Its just an speculation.

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(I had to come back for this one .)

I am glad that the security of the Indian players is now being debated in the Govt, cricket board and the media.
When I first raised this concern in :
http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133200, folks here thought I was crazy.
I still maintain that the Indian players should not be made scapegoats in the momentum of peace overtures between the two countries.

To say that India wants to call off the tour because of fear of losing is a load of crap put forth mostly by Pakis living in denial about their country’s image abroad. To Ganguly’s credit , he first raised the issue (of his players having safety concerns) during the Test series in Australia when the Indians were on a roll. So its not that this has become an issue only after the mauling the Indians received in the one-dayers. Plus I think only a moron will believe that Indians will vote against the BJP, were Indians to lose in Pak.

I say ..call off the tour. India however should propose playing Pak in India or at a neutral venue (other than Sharjah - may be Toronto).

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^ Not Sharjah…:rotfl:
Now who is afraid of losing

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^On second thoughts, Sharjah is fine. Just dont allow the crooks , underworld dons and Jihadi elements into the stadium.

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^ Last time i checked, there was a greater population of indian immigrants in Sharjah than Pakistanis. Hence you should tell ur crooks and underworld brethren to behave....

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Actually truth is, the BJP government wants to win the elections of the Muslim community.
To some extent, the muslim population is still even with Pakistan, and wants to see ties with them, as some of their family lives there.. vice versa. Thus resulting is the bilateral talks, film stars coming over, cricket tour, etc. After BJP wins the elections with the help of the Muslim community, not only will they win the election, but by majority. Then everything will be cancelled, and the government will have more power than they had before.

India will be back to the way they were before. Their playing everyone for fools.

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so wat? the indians r going 2 chicken out once more, brilliant

:rolleyes:

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postponed? WHAT!

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India tour is under threat

The Pakistan-India Test series could be postponed for security reasons. An Indian government junior minister said it has been forced to re-think the tour, which was set to go-ahead next month.

Swamy Chinmayanand told BBC Hindi, that players' safety in Pakistan could not be guaranteed.

He said: "We want relations with Pakistan to improve but cannot endanger players' lives. Our players' security is more important than cricket."

It was set to be the first time India had visited Pakistan for a Test series in 14 years.

Media reports said the Home Ministry was concerned the sensitive nature of the matches could trigger tension near the time of India's general elections as well.

A security delegation from the Board of Control for Cricket in India is currently in Pakistan assessing the situation and was set to announce its findings on Monday.

But Chinmayanand revealed the Indian government has sent its own intelligence staff to Pakistan, too.

He added: "The Indian government will take a final decision only after its intelligence team comes back from Pakistan and submits a report.

"The report by the government's security team will be final but the other report by the BCCI delegation will also be taken into account.

"Until the players' security is ascertained, the Home Ministry will not allow them to travel to Pakistan."

India captain Sourav Ganguly suggested players were concerned about their safety.

But BCCI President Jagmohan Dalmiya played down suggestions the tour could be in doubt.

He said: "We have no comment to make so far as the tour is concerned, but BCCI's stand has been always to abide by the government decision."

The tour, which includes three Tests and five one-dayers, was scheduled to start with the first Test on 11 March.

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wtf? either cancel the damn tour or go ahead. damit :mad2:

I’m tired of all these news…one day they say tour will go ahead as scheduled and the other day they say it might be cancelled.

so what if ind don’t go to Pak, its not end of the world. :rolleyes: :frusty2:

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My Bangladeshi resources are telling me that Indian tour will be replaced by a five test series with BD. Pakistani players need something to take off their anger at.

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New twist: Pak offers to play India in Lanka
AYAZ MEMON

TIMES NEWS NETWORK FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2004 12:15:44 AM ]

MUMBAI: The cash-strapped Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is willing to offer India the option of playing the Test and one-day international series even in Sri Lanka if all other avenues — including president Pervez Musharraf talking to Prime Minister Vajpayee one-on-one to salvage the tour fails — according to a source close to PCB chairman Shahryar Khan and Riaz Mahmood, special adviser to the PCB.

This twist to the India-Pakistan cricket saga comes just as India’s home ministry suggested to the Board of Control for Cricket in India to consider postponing the tour to some time after the Lok Sabha elections, likely to be held in the latter fortnight of April.

The reluctance of the Indian home ministry to clear the tour has obviously precipitated radical thinking in the PCB administration which stands to lose between $20 and $25 million (including title sponsorship worth $4 million to Samsung and $1.5 million of co-sponsorship and in-stadia advertisement revenue) if the tour is cancelled.

But the PCB is hopeful that the security clearance provided by the three-member committee of the BCCI plus the nature of the recent Indo-Pakistan relationship will prevail over the Indian government that the Indian cricket team should tour Pakistan.

To this end it is reliably learnt that the PCB has also requested Musharraf to speak to Vajpayee and clear the path to the tour. This is likely to happen in the next couple of days.

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idiots. stick to your guns. play 'em in Pakistan and if they can't do that, then scrap the tour.

goddamnit, these idiots. please, don't be so stupid. money is not worth self respect.

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*Originally posted by fair_&_balance: *

The mauling that Ganguly & Co took in the just-concluded Australian tour has also contributed to the diffidence about team's prospects in Pakistan.

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My oh My.

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Sri Lanka?

Of all the places in the world... they want to play in Sri Lanka?! Sheesh..

Kyon bhai... Is Tamil bombing is less painful then Al-Kayda bombing?

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My oh My.
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I know saby. I noticed that too but I let that one go 'cause if the peace pipe that everyone's smoking.

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Er, everyone calm down. It's not a good time to be an Indian on this board right now. But I must stick up for the team.security concerns the players were having leaked out after the Adelaide test which India won, and when they were on a high. Seriously, it's not the team losing which is worrying the bjp, but the team being blown up. If that happens polls suggest the bjp will get 17 votes.
Look, the bjp has worked very hard to get re-elected and they think it's a grand idea to send the cricket team to Pakistan as a peace offering, just as long as it happens post facto.

I wish the tour goes through by hook or croock, lets play in sharjah or lanka but lets play.

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I wouldn't mind Pakistan going to India and play the series out. Slap them in the face.

And this nation prides itself on Mahatma Gandhi?. SHame on them. They should set an example for peace and visit.

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*Originally posted by karina: *
Er, everyone calm down. It's not a good time to be an Indian on this board right now. But I must stick up for the team.security concerns the players were having leaked out after the Adelaide test which India won, and when they were on a high. Seriously, it's not the team losing which is worrying the bjp, but the team being blown up. If that happens polls suggest the bjp will get 17 votes.
Look, the bjp has worked very hard to get re-elected and they think it's a grand idea to send the cricket team to Pakistan as a peace offering, just as long as it happens post facto.

I wish the tour goes through by hook or croock, lets play in sharjah or lanka but lets play.
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there was an open threat to our team when we toured in 99. In fact, a pitch was dug, wasn't it? now, name the group that has issued an open threat to your team.

and don't give me none of that terrorism crap 'cause your side of the border has just as many nuts as our side.

As far as your last comment is concerned, I'm going to be sending out as many protesting emails to the PCB as I can to oppose a Pak tour anywhere outside of Pakistan though fg's idea is slightly more acceptable.

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there was an open threat to our team when we toured in 99. In fact, a pitch was dug, wasn't it? now, name the group that has issued an open threat to your team.

and don't give me none of that terrorism crap 'cause your side of the border has just as many nuts as our side.

As far as your last comment is concerned, I'm going to be sending out as many protesting emails to the PCB as I can to oppose a Pak tour anywhere outside of Pakistan though fg's idea is slightly more acceptable.
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Sure do that. Don't play. Cricket will be the loser. I wont talk about so called terrorism in India. Right now no team wants to visit Pak, but none have a problem visiting India. Why?

As far as Fg's comments go, if Pakistan had slapped it's jehadi elemants around a long time back this wouldn't have happened.