Indian textbook draws flak for describing Pakistan as "den of terrorism"

Indian textbook draws flak for describing Pakistan as “den of terrorism”

AHMEDABAD, India (AFP) - Indian parents slammed a social science book being used in schools in the western state of Gujarat which describes Pakistan as a “den of terrorism.”

Agitated parents told a press conference in the state’s commercial capital Ahmedabad (news - web sites) that they did not want their children learning “distorted facts” from the book, ‘Social Sciences: Standard 8.’

“As a parent, I am very concerned that my child will grow up learning distorted facts. Even the language in the book is stilted,” said Kalpana Kamdar, who has demanded school authorities investigate the matter.

The new social science textbook with references to India’s neighbour Pakistan was introduced by Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist government at the start of the academic year in June. It is being taught to students aged around 13.

In a chapter titled ‘Remedies against terrorism,’ the book states: “Gujarat is a border state. Its land and sea boundaries touch the boundaries of Pakistan, which is like a den of terrorism.”

“Under such circumstances, it is absolutely necessary for us to understand the effects of terrorism… If citizens join the defense forces and receive training, it will be helpful in the fight against terrorism. The fight against terrorism is a holy war being fought in the interest of people,” it added.

Social activist Cederic Prakash, who has researched the textbook says it is replete with “factual errors.”

“Our research study shows that this new textbook is replete with factual inaccuracies, historical distortions, manipulative, unscientific and above all highly discriminatory statements,” said Prakash.

Some 2,000 people died in anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat that broke out in February 2002 when an allegedly Muslim mob torched a train carrying Hindu activists, killing 59 people.

Human rights groups say Gujarat’s Hindu nationalist government turned a blind eye and at times encouraged the bloodshed.

Pakistan should do the same, and they just might since they copy Indians in everything.

Something interesting:

In Pakistan it is thought to kids that when you see a red ant, it is a kafir ant, you must kill it, when you see black ants, those are good ants, but when you see the large black ants amongst the regular black ants, those are Hindu ants, you must kill them and you get sawaab doing so.

In Pakistani schools India is always refereed to “Hindustan”, a constant reminder that it is a nation of “Hindus”. Majority of Pakistanis don’t know that there are more Muslims in India then Pakistan, let alone that those Muslim of India are more practicing then the one you will find from Pakistan.

In fact, majority of Pakistan don't want to admit that Pakistan was ever a part of India.

BUT! BUT! All of the sudden, majority of Pakistanis dont mind the new ties and well wishes between the two nations.

^ Your observations are too shallow to comment on...

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^ Your observations are too shallow to comment on...
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Observations? If you call 8 years in a Pakistani school "observations", fine with me.

Me talk from first hand experiance child, first hand experiance.

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Pakistan should do the same, and they just might since they copy Indians in everything.

Something interesting:

In Pakistan it is thought to kids that when you see a red ant, it is a kafir ant, you must kill it, when you see black ants, those are good ants, but when you see the large black ants amongst the regular black ants, those are Hindu ants, you must kill them and you get sawaab doing so.

In Pakistani schools India is always refereed to “Hindustan”, a constant reminder that it is a nation of “Hindus”. Majority of Pakistanis don’t know that there are more Muslims in India then Pakistan, let alone that those Muslim of India are more practicing then the one you will find from Pakistan.

In fact, majority of Pakistan don't want to admit that Pakistan was ever a part of India.

BUT! BUT! All of the sudden, majority of Pakistanis dont mind the new ties and well wishes between the two nations.
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Nice to see you back
I don't think there are as many muslims in India as there are in Pakistan.
"Hindustan" is the historical name for India. Most would say it is the correct name.
As for the idea that Pakistan was a "part" of India, well considering the modern concept of an Indian megastate state has rairly existed, I don't think this was ever really true.
India has always existed as divided states usually under different kings and rulers, modern day Pakistan was only ever part of India in a general sense similarly to how one could say Turkey is a part of Europe.

Sher Khan Suri please ease down on your allegations. My family has lived all over pakistan and me including my bros and sis's have went to plenty school in every province of the country and i could assure you we have never heard the story of red ants and black ants and hindu ants etc. Could you please site the source of this information?

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Me talk from first hand experiance child, first hand experiance.
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Dude youve obviously had a very violated childhood then. I'm sorry to hear that.

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*Originally posted by Sher Khan Suri: *
Pakistan should do the same, and they just might since they copy Indians in everything.

Something interesting:

In Pakistan it is thought to kids that when you see a red ant, it is a kafir ant, you must kill it, when you see black ants, those are good ants, but when you see the large black ants amongst the regular black ants, those are Hindu ants, you must kill them and you get sawaab doing so.

In Pakistani schools India is always refereed to “Hindustan”, a constant reminder that it is a nation of “Hindus”. Majority of Pakistanis don’t know that there are more Muslims in India then Pakistan, let alone that those Muslim of India are more practicing then the one you will find from Pakistan.

In fact, majority of Pakistan don't want to admit that Pakistan was ever a part of India.

BUT! BUT! All of the sudden, majority of Pakistanis dont mind the new ties and well wishes between the two nations.
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errrrr the big back ants?

Are you sure you arent confused with the little bhramin ones? :)

sher, not only have you been lamentably cruel to ants you're also wrong.

and MS debunked the idea that India has more Muslims than Pakistan.. we're leading by 50 odd million. Search option use karo.

Text books in english in Pakistan always use India, whereas books in Urdu use Hindustan/Bharat. Which is the correct thing to do.

Pakistan would be such a great nation if only people started to accept the truth and realize their wrongs.

Majority of you didn't go to the schools I went to, in our areas the schools that were funded by Pakistan were used as recruiting ground for "Mujahideens" for Kashmir and Afghanistan.

Go ahead; call me a Hindu Indian agent if it makes you feel any better.

It is in the nature of a Pakistani to be in denial. This is why this nation is going to be doomed if it doesn't realize it flaws and faults. In its 50 years of existence 5 different times the military had to come and take control of things, that shows you how great it truly is.

Pakistan Zindabaaddd – Mujahideen-e-Kashmir Zindabaaaddd – Holy Jinnah Zindabaaaaddd and of course Bush-e-dulaat Zindabaaddd and yes new friendship – with the nation of Hindus Zindabaaaddd

Honestly, I am a Jew from Israel.

p.s. now guys, that will truly make your day na?

p.s.2 Mattostan zindabaad ;- )

Oh yeah, lets not forget Osamabad zindabaaaddd :jhanda:

Confused,Diffused,Perfused:hehe:

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Majority of you didn't go to the schools I went to, in our areas the schools that were funded by Pakistan were used as recruiting ground for "Mujahideens" for Kashmir and Afghanistan.
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education is schools located in pverty stricken slums is pathetic everywhere. Pakistan is no exception. But this does explain a lot.

waisay its bull****, because I know ppl who went to school in areas liek malir, landhi, korangi, shah faisal colony, jet lines, ranchorr lines, bhains colony... and they have never told me this type of crap was taught in their school. u must have been is some real wacko school, maybe the ones dominated by the afghan refugees, those were something else.

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waisay its bull
***, because I know ppl who went to school in areas liek malir, landhi, korangi, shah faisal colony, jet lines, ranchorr lines, bhains colony... and they have never told me this type of crap was taught in their school. u must have been is some real wacko school, maybe the ones dominated by the afghan refugees, those were something else.
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Blame it on the Afghans, blame it on the Hindus, blame it on the Jews, but never say I.

Have you ever asked a Pakistani how they feel about a Hindu or a Jew?

Okay lets forget that, I met a kid who was born in the states, never been to Pakistan, who believes that on the day of judgment Pakistan is going to save the entire muslim "UmmaH" from the evil Jew, evil Hindu, and evil American.

The sad part about this Pakistani nationalist was, he don't even know how to speak his national language.

So where did this kid get these ideas from......I found out that his father is a big shot Pakistani nationalist, he is also a poet and a proffessor.

Pakistan was built and created on the hate for Hindus and Kafirs. You can't change its nature, maybe you can change it, but you can't be in denial.

btw, those Afghan refugees I found to be more sane then the average educated Pakistani. We all saw on this very forum, how educated Pakistani Mods dumpped this site over a single "HINDU" "KAFIR".

Now tell me, where they trained by the Afghan refugees?

*Originally posted by Sher Khan Suri: *

Blame it on the Afghans, blame it on the Hindus, blame it on the Jews, but never say I.

sorry, not in the habit of taking responsibility for something I did not do :)

*Have you ever asked a Pakistani how they feel about a Hindu or a Jew? *

Last time I checked, ai along with my siblings, cousins and freinds was Pakistani. The answer varies from person to person. Kinda like when u ask an israeili boy what they think of an arab.

Okay lets forget that, I met a kid who was born in the states, never been to Pakistan, who believes that on the day of judgment Pakistan is going to save the entire muslim "UmmaH" from the evil Jew, evil Hindu, and evil American.

Nice statistical sampling.. I met a pakistani who is in the gay and lesbian hall of fame..now go extrapolate that to the entire nation.

*Pakistan was built and created on the hate for Hindus and Kafirs. You can't change its nature, maybe you can change it, but you can't be in denial. *

Sorry, dont know what other garbage was stuffed in your head in your slum school, but pakistan was not based on the hate for hindus, rather to provide muslims a state where they could be free.

*btw, those Afghan refugees I found to be more sane then the average educated Pakistani. *

Yes, and the great center of civilization that afghanistan has always been indicates that :)

Anyways, the post is about Indian textbooks and how they are inaccurate and inflammatory, whether or not the textbooks in burundi, burkina faso or lesotho are inflammatory is a diff issue, and mixing it to somehow make this right is a lame attempt to dodge the issue.

who is pakistan's number #1 friend and #1 enemy ?

you know the thousands of muslims and hindus killed during the separation was just a show of love and brotherhood.

yes fraudia, i am wrong you are right. Pakistan Pakk zarr zamiin zindabaadddd!

jay hind as well.

shaloom to all the jews.

Gujarat Govt to remove remarks glorifying Hitler from textbook

Stung by all-round criticism, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on Thursday decided to remove remarks glorifying Adolf Hitler from school textbooks in Gujarat.

In a swift decision following reports that school textbooks in Gujarat glorified Nazi Germany, the party's central leadership has asked the BJP-ruled government in the state to remove any reference praising Hitler.

"The truth is that the syllabus has been in force since 1986 when the Congress was in power (in Gujarat), it is not as though we have introduced it," BJP vice president Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi said in New Delhi.

"Anyway we are removing the positive references to Hitler's Nazi Germany," he said.

The Class 10 social studies textbooks published by the state-run Gujarat State Textbook Board carry chapters like "Hitler, the Supremo" and "Internal Achievements of Nazism".

While lauding Hitler as a great commander and inspiring leader, the textbook underplays the human misery caused by him during World War II.