Indian Terrorist Sarabjit Singh attacked in jail by fellow prisoners

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And just recently I was told how Pakistanis have failed to speak out against the terrorists whereas Indians always condemn the terrorists amongst them. Mmm yeah.

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ok ok…we shd stop fighting here…coz Pakistani and indian govts are also helping and supporting each other…**indian govt has thanked Pakistani govt for a speedy cooperation **… it was a sad incidence but we need to move on.

*Foreign Office Foreign Secretary Jalil Abbas Jillani told The News: “My Indian counterpart Ranjan Mathai telephoned me and thanked me for all the help we provided to them ever since the death row Indian prisoner Sarabjit Singh was brutally attacked till the time we facilitated the arrival of a special Indian aircraft to fly back Singh’s body to India.”

Spokesman at the Foreign Office giving more details about the telephone call said: “The telephone call from the Indian foreign secretary was to thank us for a series of prompt actions to facilitate medical treatment, consular access to Indian officials, visa and other facilitation for his family and expeditious processing of permissions for repatriation of the body. He also thanked us for our assistance and facilitation on humanitarian grounds.”*

India thanks Pakistan for help in Sarabjit case - thenews.com.pk

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All of indian media is criticizing soft diplomacy of indian government…

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Dalbir Kaur, sister of Indian prisoner Sarabjit Singh who died in Pakistan, has accused Pakistani human rights activist and former Minister, Ansar Burney, of demanding Rs 25 crore for his release.
Before proceeding to her native village, Bhikhiwind, where her brother is to be cremated on Friday, Ms. Kaur told reporters in Amritsar that Mr. Burney brought down the demand to Rs 2 crore when she told him the family did not have that kind of resource at its command. Mr. Burney, she claimed, assured her that Sarabjit would be released the same evening if she gave him the money.
An emotional Ms. Kaur said had she been in a position to pay Rs. 25 crore, her brother would have been a free man. She alleged that Sarabjit Singh was sacrificed to ensure Asif Ali Zardari’s victory in Pakistan’s elections. India must give Pakistan a “befitting” reply for its betrayal.
I am hurt, says Burney
**Mr. Burney was quoted on various social media portals expressing shock at Ms. Kaur’s allegations. He accused her of attempting to politicise a matter that, to him, was one of defending human rights. He was among the first to demand an investigation into the attack, as he felt bricks could not have been brought in where Sarabjit was being lodged after being convicted. Mr. Burney said he was pained and hurt at the “false and slanderous” allegation, especially because he had only tried to help Sarabjit get justice and assist his family in its struggle.
Burney demanded money, says Sarabjit
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And that is exactly why I said in my first post that why should this be an excuse for a cold war between the two countries? Good thing the two governments aren't as jazbaati as their awaam... well, that can be a bad thing too but in this case they're being sane enough.

This happens in prisons all the time, even in the most developed countries, and I'm saying this only after having watched a bazillion prison documentaries produced from the same countries. When ninja mentioned the murder of rapists in Indian prisons, I immediately thought of Jeffrey Dahmer. He was an American serial killer who was attacked twice in prison. The first time, a fellow inmate tried to slash his throat with a razor blade but he escaped. The second time he wasn't so lucky and he was beaten to death with a metal rod. Now did anyone blame the entire nation of America for the disgraceful misconduct of a criminal inside a prison? Nope. But when it happens in Pakistan, apparently the entire nation is at fault for giving others a chance to point fingers at us. Please! Exaggeration much?

Now in case someone twists this around and says I'm defending whatever happened... please go back and read my first post where I said that there needs to be a proper inquiry into this, they need to investigate the jail staff and they need to implement the necessary corrective and preventive measures to make sure this doesn't happen again. If there is a high profile inmate, especially a foreign national, he must be granted more security than other inmates. It's a no-brainer.

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I don't understand the big hoo-rah that is going on. At the end of the day he was convicted for spying and was handed the death sentence. Where was the Indian government then? They didn't utter a word! Now, they're trying to take the moral high ground.

Naturally, its very sad to see the way he died which was completely wrong and clearly shocking. I hope those culprits are punished for their actions.

But is it really less humane if he died by hanging which would have been sanctioned through official channels? I don't know! Death is still death one way or another.

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Would you still say the same if a mob lynched a murderer on the streets?

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this is the mentality that prevails in today's Pakistan and always bothers me.

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Point is he was sentenced to die. A murderer on the street is not necessarily facing the death penalty.

This happens all the time within prisons. India, making a big fuss is irrational and idiotic...

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oh really... this happens all the time?..

we are getting maligned all over the world becasue of our incompetency but for you this is this just another case

and a highly sensitive indian terrorist gets killed in a jail all the time in pakistan? really

we have thousands of indians criminals in pakistani jails in last 50 years...how many have we killed? ZERO

so why now sarbjeet? it cant be as simple as we want the world to believe

and if it is that simple..then i am sorry but is that our how jail system is being run?

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This unfortunate incident should not have happened (even though the victim was a convicted criminal) but we must not overreact!

According to another self-confessed (@05:54) indian spy Surjeet Singh, things in Pakistani jails are not as bad as they seem

Surjeet Singh: I was looked after well in Pakistan jail

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Lol okay then someone please show that world a mirror.

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Yes, it does happen often. There are numerous cases of prisoners being killed by other inmates. That is nothing new.

Is Sarbjeet better than other prisoners who have languished in jails and died in them too? if so, Why?

You're putting words in my mouth with that...Nor did I mention it was ok to kill anyone like this..

Thousands? News, to me. Either way a good ratio I suppose, 1 death in the last 50 years.

Nobody said or is saying it was okay to kill this man like this... Personally, I would have liked to see him freed as a good will gesture. HOWEVER, spying is a capital offence and if a spy is caught and killed in any circumstance you shouldn't blame the the whole country. He knew the risks so did the Indian government. In the past Pakistan has released these kind of criminals and they've openly admitted to being spies. Therefore, I can understand Pakistan's position in not releasing him.
As for the prisoners who killed him I see it as a exogenous incident.

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if you dont want to understand the basic premise of a debate then that is not my problem..all the examples that you cited before are not applicable to this case....can you show me an example where two enemy countries were involved in such an incidence? e.g. in American jail, a Russian spy being killed by american criminals in a jail? or an american spy being killed in an Iranian jail by Iranian inmates? or in cuba or in Venezuela...

in such cases extra security is always provided to avoid such incidences and international backlash....please understand the context of issue and then comment. thx

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so lives of human beings have different values?

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Pakistan is not responsible to provide VVVIP security protocol to every spy that is caught and convicted. Our neighbor would flood our jails, and tie up the entire police force if this procedure was initiated. It is simply not feasible.

A convicted terrorist with all denied appeals should be hung asap to bring about a closure for the country of jurisdiction, as well as the country of origin. It's just simpler that way, and families of the affectees can move forward with their lives.

Have you guys considered how much capital would be drained to keep death-row inmates "safe"? It's like watering your plants while it's raining outside. He was convicted!....why is that a difficult to grasp?

Yes, he should not have been attacked, and his attackers should be hung now on priority, but that does not discount the fact that he is/was/and will always remain a convicted terrorist as far as Pakistan is concerned. India can cry us all a river, it will not change the facts.

Unfortunate thing about Pakistan is, it's full of Ansar Burneys who are only too happy to get convicted spies released only to have them openly boast about them being spies once they cross the border. Enough!

How soon people forget that Pakistan has shown many good-will gestures in the recent past. Lets not make a habit of expecting this every time.

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Would it have been better if he was kept in a hole? a la Isolation cell for his own safety? I suspect then we would cry Human Right violations because he doesn't get to mingle with other human beings. Where does it stop?

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You are all missing PD's point.

However bad this man was, this incident should not have happened and could have been avoided with better security or by puting him in solitary confinement

But at the same time one must not generalize that things in Pakistan jails are bad

Watch Surjeet's video that I have posted above and the one posted by Shamraz. He says himself that indian prisoners in Pakistani jails are treated much better than Pakistani prisoners in indian jails (post #76 bottom video @ 02:51) and that he was very well looked after in jail, food was excellent, meat served 5 times a week!!! Although he was tortured by Pakistan army after being arrested in 1982 (for 4 years from 1982-85), Surjeet was never tortured in jail.

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i saw him on tv while crossing from wagha border....
PD's point is about treatment of inmates from enemy nation right?

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International backlash? Where? Crap on twitter doesn't count as international backlash. The bottom line is that there was a violent encounter between prisoners which fatally wounded one prisoner who happened to be a convicted Indian terrorist and the jail staff failed to prevent this from happening. Why should it be any more complicated than that? Please do tell me who are these moral authorities of the world that have the audacity to point fingers at the entire nation of Pakistan when this happens in their own prisons all the time except it doesn't get as much media coverage because no one gives a damn about those prisoners, it's only a big deal when it's a high profile inmate who gets killed and then apparently we all have to be super hyper.