Indian security forces kill 3 in Kashmir

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From wikipedia.........

Before the Partition of India in 1947, Kargil was part of Gilgit-Baltistan, a region of many diverse linguistic, ethnic and religious groups, due in part to the many isolated valleys separated by some of the world's highest mountains. The First Kashmir War (1947–48) resulted in most of the Kargil region remaining an Indian territory;then, after Pakistan's defeat in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, the remaining areas, including strategic military posts, also passed into Indian territory. Notably, Kargil is the only district in the Ladakh subdivision that has a Muslim majority

India does not have any excuse. India has invested lot of money and resources in Kashmir. It cannot let Kashmir go for free if some religious bigoted guys (on either side) decided to take matter into its own hands, even if they are a few million of them. We have a huge 1000 million to counter that.

does this “we” includes you Mercy? :konfused: this is a proven fact that most of those intruders who jumped in Indian Kashmir like rats belonged to legally banned terrorists groups, but sorry to say they were crushed by our brave Indian soldiers who kick from front not from back like losers and sorry Mr. Mercy I forgot he was Prime Minister of Islamic republic of Pakistan who refused to accept your brave intruders dead bodies, it seems your Prime Minister was braver than your intruder fighters :hehe:

and how come so soon you forgot “Siachen” :smokin: or PTV does’nt talk about Siachen anymore

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More from Occupied Kashmir…Media Men being targeted by the Indian security forces.

The International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) is disturbed by reports of the media being directly targeted in an intensifying security crackdown in the Kashmir region in India.

Newspapers in Srinagar, the capital of Jammu and Kashmir, failed to print for two consecutive days on account of severe restrictions on the movement of journalists and other media employees. Security agencies have compelled local cable news channels to suspend broadcasts or to air only entertainment programs.

**Fifteen journalists and media workers were reported injured on August 24 in targeted attacks by personnel of the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF), a paramilitary force controlled by the Indian Union Government and deployed in Srinagar since 2005. **

The injured include journalists from India’s two main news agencies, the Press Trust of India and the United News of India, who had been trying to go to their workplaces.

The IFJ’s inquiries with journalists in Srinagar reveal that security forces are persistently disregarding media accreditation cards and curfew passes, in some instances snatching and destroying them. In some instances, armed CRPF personnel were reportedly heard remarking that they had orders to prevent journalists in particular from proceeding to their workplaces.

“The IFJ condemns the assaults on the press in Kashmir,” IFJ Asia-Pacific said.

“The IFJ is gravely concerned that in an environment of complete paralysis for the media, rumour and disinformation will flourish, aggravating an already bad situation.”

Three English language newspapers from Srinagar – Greater Kashmir, Etalaat and Rising Kashmir – posted notices on their websites regretting their failure to publish for two days because staff were unable to travel to their workplaces. The Urdu language press also has been paralysed.

News websites have been updated sporadically only because some employees have been confined to their offices by a curfew imposed in the entire Kashmir region.

“The IFJ calls upon the authorities and the security agencies in Kashmir to honour the well-established convention that media accreditation cards are considered good for passage through curfew-bound areas,” IFJ Asia-Pacific said.

The IFJ also demands that cable news channels in Kashmir be allowed to air their programs without hindrance, subject only to the condition that they conform to programming codes and guidelines in force in other parts of India.

IFJ.org - IFJ Global - IFJ Deplores Attacks on Media in Kashmir

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Five killed in Jammu gun battle, four hostages rescued - Sify.com

Now you have your freedom seekers killing a Muslim,a Sikh and a Hindu in Jammu.Would you condemn this ?

Do you think poeple of Jammu will silently watch and tolerate this terrorist activities?

I have never been to a Madrassah so I don't know what the hell you are talking about. Your rationale is as good as your Intelligence Agencies which blames everything on Pakistan

Bengalis never wanted to be with Pakistan to begin with. So thank you for getting rid of that problem for us.

But now, Indians are complaining of Bengalis migrating by the millions to India

http://members.tripod.com/israindia/bangla_rai.html

How Bangladesh will Destroy India

By Mr. Baljit Rai (IPS Retd.)

  1. Area - 144000 Sq. Kms.
  2. Population 120 million (12 Crores) - 90% Muslims
  3. Density per square Km. - 750 (Highest in the world)
  4. Religion - Islam
  5. Economic condition - Poorest country in the World. It gets all its petrol and petroleum products free of cost from oil rich Middle East countries. It has to pay only transport charges.
  6. Literacy Male - 25.8% Female - 13.2%
  7. Its density of population per sq. km. is three times that of India which is 267. In area Bangladesh is 1/25th the size of India but in population it is 1/7th.
  8. Rate of growth of population in Bangladesh (all Muslims) is so high and fast that by the year 2017 (according to a report by the Government of Bangladesh) its population would be 240 million (24 crores). Where will they live in the small country? There is not enough land and resources even for the existing population.
  9. Pressure on the population of Bangladesh is so great that at least 20 million ( 2 Crores) Muslims have illegally infiltrated into India. As a result of this massive illegal migration ten districts of Assam (out of 23) have become Muslim majority or near Muslim majority districts. In 56 constituencies of West Bengal Muslims have a decisive voice.
  10. During the next 10 to 15 years at least 10 Crore (100 million) Muslims will infiltrate into India thereby adding tremendously to the population of Muslims in the country.
  11. Since 1947, Hindu population in Bangladesh have been reduced from 30% to less than 10% because of the terrible religious persecutions and atrocities.
  12. Bangladeshi Muslim infiltrators have demanded second partition of India. This new country will be called “Muslim Bango Bhoomi” which will comprise large parts of West Bengal, Bihar and Assam and finally be merged with Bangladesh.
  13. Bangladesh intellectuals have started claiming all the North Eastern States of India ( Assam, Meghalya, Arunachal Pardesh, Manipur, Nagaland, Mizoram and Tripura), as the natural hinterland to accommodate the ever expanding Muslim population of Bangladesh.
  14. In West Bengal Bangladeshi Muslim infiltrators have forcibly grabbed houses and land belonging to Hindus and driven them away. It is not only in Kashmir that the Hindus have become refugees in their own country. It has happened in West Bengal too. This fact is known to the Government of India and yet is doing nothing.
  15. The Congress-I and CPI(M.) Governments are strongly supporting the cause of the Bangladeshi Muslim infiltrators in order to strengthen their vote banks.
  16. Muslim population in West Bengal has increased from 5118269 in 1951 to 11743259 in 1981, as against Hindu population of 20751412 in 1951 to 42007159 in 1981. (1991 census figures have not yet been released by the Census Commission). Thus in 1951 there was 1 Muslim to 4 Hindus, whereas in 1981 the ratio was reduced to 1:3.5. With high natural growth of Muslim population and massive infiltration of Muslims from Bangladesh this ratio will get reduced to 1:1 in the next few decades. The other consequences can easily be imagined.
  17. 1991 census in Assam has been a big fraud. Census figures show that the 6 states of Arunachal Pardesh, Manipur, Meghalya, Mizoram, Nagaland and Tripura have recorded population growth ranging from +27% to +57% during the decade 1981-91. How come Assam recorded a growth of only +23.58%?

If we fail to check massive infiltration of Bangladeshi Muslims, at least 10 Kashmirs will sprout in the next 10 years in the Eastern States of India. Today, no Indian can go to Kashmir. In 10 years time, no one will be able to go to Calcutta and Guwahati. Bangladesh with its massive population will bleed India to death as surely as Pakistan is doing today in Kashmir and Punjab.

Let there be no doubt about the shape of things to come. Mr. Chintamani Panigrahi, former governor of Manipur in an article under the caption “A question of Identity” in the Hindustan Times dated 10.1.93, made the following pertinent observations:
The census report of 1991 observed that when the density of population rose by 51 persons per square kilometer in 1991, West Bengal recorded the quantum increase at 151 persons per square kilometer. In eight West Bengal districts the population growth is very high.

As the influx from Bangladesh to West Bengal continues, leaders have now woken up and have brought to the notice of the Union Home Ministry that because of this influx, swift demographic changes have taken place in West Bengal. In their letter to the Union Home Minister they pointed out that in 132 constituencies in West Bengal voters’s strength have gone up by 40 to 50 percent while 34 other constituencies the voters’s list has shown a rise between 52 to 92 percent. The population in the border districts of West Bengal had risen by 30 percent as against 17 percent in South Bengal districts like Bankura.

Over a period of the last many years a substantial number of Bangladeshis were issued ration cards and were enfranchised. Bangladesh took full advantage of these opportunities.
Prime Minister Narshima Rao, during the first visit to Assam, in the first week of July 1992, while referring to this problem in his speech, said the influx was a national problem and was at the root of Assam’s instability. He suggested a meeting of the Chief Ministers of the concerned States to discuss this problem and to find out a national solution.

Had the process of the detection of migration of population been accelerated from the beginning and the laws enacted for the purpose of eliminating the delays, the problem would not have assumed such baffling proportions. How many migrants from outside can India hold, keeping in view its own growing pressure of population?
In this context it is also interesting to note that a group of intellectuals in Dhaka are seeking to legitimise the migration of its people into the adjoining North-Eastern region of India by invoking a theory of lebensraum or living space.

Daily newspapers in Dhaka publish write ups on these lines written by University professors. They write such articles with a view to motivate the people to cross over with a aim that one day India’s North-Eastern region will be added to Bangladesh giving it a natural boundary in place of the present one, as they consider that it “throttles” Bangladesh.
Such write ups and comments not only instigated an anti-India feeling in Bangladesh, it also advocated Bangladeshis right to migrate to India.
Some other reports which were published by the correspondents touring the border areas indicate that 500 to 1000 Bangladeshis cross over to India everyday through different areas. They are coming in small groups across the 2,145 km-long open border since the creation of Bangladesh in 1971. These reports published in the Frontier magazine dated November 6, 1992 highlight the dimension of the problem.

It is estimated that by the year 2000 there would be another five crore Bangladeshis desperate for land and trying to get into India. According to official estimates anything up to 80 lakh may be illegal migrants in India.
Take the case of 55,000 Chakma refugees from the Chittagong Hill tracts of Bangladesh, who have taken shelter in Tripura for the last many years. In Chittagong Hill Tracts, their lands have already been occupied by people from other parts of Bangladesh. The Chakmas demand that they should be first restored their alienated lands and then be given full security. In taking back the Chakma refugees, no positive measures have come from Bangladesh.
On the other hand Bangladesh raised the question of influx of Rohingiya refugees from Myanmar loudly to get international aid and assistance and to send them back to Mayanmar.

There may also be another reason for the migration. According to the prediction of ecologists, because the sea level will rise, many coastal areas in Bangladesh will be submerged in another 40 to 50 years.
It is high time that our country decides once and for all as to how many people from outside it can hold. It has also become urgent that our country should formulate a definite population policy specially relating to our border regions, where mounting social tensions are giving rise to political unrest because of unchecked regular flow of illegal migrants and their enrolment in the electoral rolls of their respective border states on the basis of ration cards issued to them.

New Delhi is blind and deaf.
Calcutta is blind and deaf.
Guwahati is blind and deaf.
Itanagar is blind and deaf.
Kohima is blind and deaf.
Imphal is blind and deaf.
Aizwal is blind and deaf.
Agartala is blind and deaf.
Patna is blind and deaf.
Why?

The only answer is that India is being ruled by traitors who are hell bent on delivering the only Hindu country to Islam on a platter.

**Note **: Everyone must take a serious view of the fact that Begum Khaleda Zia, Prime Minister of Bangladesh cancelled her visit to Cairo to attended the International Conference on Population and Development (5-13 Sept. 1994) under the pressure of Muslim fundamentalists in her country who are dead opposed to family planning. Can an extremely over populated country like Bangladesh afford not to adopt family planning measures. The population bomb of Bangladesh will be much more destructive for India than even an Atomic bomb. The rulers of India whether in Delhi or Calcutta or Guwahati must wake up and take note of this ominous development. India cannot be allowed to be a victim of sexual profligacy of Bangladesh Muslims.

Excerpted from Author’s book “Is India going Islamic?” which was published privately in 1991.

In what Universe are you living in?

Our brave fighters took over Kargil and even when India massed 30,000 troops they could not dislodge a bunch of rag tag fighters who held out against your troops.

We inflicted a shocking defeats on your Army. It was only when your PM got down on his knees and begged his American masters for help that USA exerted pressure on Pakistan to withdraw.

Look I know you get your Kargil facts from bollywood movies in which action Hero Sunny Deol is dodging Missiles, killing Pakistanis by the millions, but the sorry to break it to you buddy, thats not reality.

The reality is you guys got caught with your pants down.

I dare India to try to do anything similar in Pakistan.

They won’t because they don’t have the guts.

^which dhakkan fighters you are talking about Mercy? :hehe: at that time according to your own president of Pakistan there was no Paki soldier was involved in Kargil war because they can’t fight openly with Indian Army coz they know what they have achieved from Indian army in past 60 years ie:Bangladesh, Siachen, Kargil etc., they can just fight proxy war and that is also coz of militant’s meharbani, now you know they are fully depended on militants?, whole world knows how your army surrendered to few talibanis without firing a single bullet just few months back.

There should be brave soldiers to fight from chest Mercy Maharaj and that bravery comes only after joining Indian Army :smokin2: so I suggest if you are interested you can be a part of Indian Army and fight like a man to terrorists.

](http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008/08/26/asia/OUKWD-UK-KASHMIR-PROTESTS.php)“More than a dozen ambulance drivers were beaten up by CRPF and equal number of ambulances were damaged by them (CRPF),” a senior official of Kashmir’s Medical Department, who did not want to be identified, told Reuters.
India extends curfew in Kashmir to quell protests - International Herald Tribune

Of course it goes without saying that you Indians support such war crimes.
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Bengalis never wanted to be with Pakistan to begin with. So thank you for getting rid of that problem for us.

It is absolutely pathetic to see that after having failed a war miserably,having butchered millions of Muslims (forget abt Hindus,though sadly),after having been there for nearly 25 years as rulers,having a territory in the label of your country,now you are thanking us for getting rid of that problem!!! I think there is some problem somewhere.

Then why did your army and rulers remain there for more than two decades?Why did you ask for a partition?

Are you serious???

Now after sometimes will you thank somebody' for getting rid of the land of no water’ ? :confused:

You had a nice dream last night.Right? :hehe:

Kindly ask your Pak Army comrades how they ran away from each position after their caps were blown off :stuck_out_tongue:

Idiot terrorists even deplored India of using flame bombs :hehe:

            We know that when  hearing   abt  Indian Army,our across the border friends will start shivering .

We do not want to indulge in Pakistan because we know that Pakistan always gets a taste of it’s own recipe all the time :hehe:

BTW:I heared that BLA sardars are daring to do something.Pls ask your army to go and fight them if they can,without wetting pants :slight_smile:

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Please stay on topic. Create a different thread for discussing issues irrelevant to the topic/title.

Thanks

Oh my ! My mistake , going by your statements which were like madarsa logic like I assumed you are madarsa graduate.

BTW, I wasn’t interested your madarsa education clarification but your reply to the facts I posted in response to post #31, which you conveniently ignored. I am reposting them below.

" In 1971 , India captured 5,500 square miles (14,000 km2) of Pakistan territory (land gained by India in Pakistani Kashmir, Pakistani Punjab and Sindh sectors was later ceded in the Simla Agreement of 1972, as a gesture of goodwill , which I believe was a mistake).

This links mentions Kashmir posts held by India in 1965 and 1971 wars. This also includes Kargil."
India: Easy Victory, Uneasy Peace - TIME