Indian Muslims Apprehensive

AHMEDABAD, India - The 10-foot-high wall separating Muslims from Hindus in Juhapura, a suburb of Ahmedabad, is likely to be raised next week. Each time religious tensions threaten to boil over, a Muslim builder shores it up and adds another couple of feet.

Anxiety is rippling through the Muslim community in the western state of Gujarat, after a recent election landslide for hard-line nationalists of the Bharatiya Janata Party. Muslims bore the brunt when religious violence erupted last spring, killing more than 1,000 people.

‘‘What will stop them now? Now they can get away with anything,’’ Aziz Gandhi, a Muslim political activist, referring to Hindu militants.

** Muslims here have reason to be nervous. The election campaign masterminded by Gujarat’s chief minister, Narendra Modi, was fought over an aggressive call for Hindutava - or chauvinistic Hindu supremacy. **

On the surface, Modi’s campaign focused on Islamic terrorism, especially in Pakistan, but it covertly targeted Muslims living in Gujarat. BJP officials suggested that the state’s Muslim minority of 5 million, or 10 percent of the state’s population, should consider leaving India for Pakistan.

The strategy worked: The BJP, which also controls India’s national governing coalition, captured 126 of a total of 182 seats in the state assembly of Gujarat.

The results have heightened a sense of insecurity among Muslims in Gujarat, the birthplace of Mahatma Gandhi, seen as the father of modern India.

Six months after the riots, in which Hindu mobs went on a rampage, killing, looting, raping, and burning, the election verdict was yet another trauma. In one way or another, the state’s entire Muslim population was affected by the violence, which was sparked in February when a Muslim mob burned to death 59 Hindus traveling on a train in Godhra, 200 miles from Ahmedabad.

Picking up the threads has not been easy. Positions in both communities have hardened and the political, social, and economic polarization is complete.

The schism between the two groups is so severe that in some areas, Muslims and Hindus stood in separate lines on Election Day.

‘‘There is no collective cross-communal thinking any more. It’s us' versus them’ now,’’ said Achyut Yagnik, a political analyst who runs a think tank called Setu. ‘‘That is why Modi’s populist right-wing strategy was as brilliant as it was diabolical.’’

**It’s not unusual here to find Muslim men and women who resort to hiding their identities while working in or traveling to Hindu localities. **

Parvin Iqbal Bano, a computer operator, says that outside of her neighborhood she adopts the more Hindu-sounding name of Pravin. She says she starts her day by listening to the radio and watching local television for alerts about any communal tension the previous night.

When she ventures out, she wears a bindi, the distinctive mark worn by Hindu married women, on her forehead and she dresses in a sari. Although her immediate acquaintances know of her religion, she hides it from everybody else.

‘‘There is just too much of a risk,’’ Bano said. ‘‘I know all Hindus are not alike just as all Muslims are not alike. But my mother really worries about me when I leave the house so I take precautions.’’

In another area, a driver for a transport company who did not want to be fully identified said he uses the name Raj rather than his own Muslim name, Siraj. And Akhil Paul, a Christian, insists that his wife wear a cross around her neck while working ‘‘out there.’’

Like other Muslim parents after the spring riots, Mallik Mohammed Ghazni moved his 3-year-old daughter from a ‘‘mixed’’ nursery school in Ravinagar to one run by a Muslim volunteer organization in Juhapura.

He said that during the clashes, teachers had been asked by Hindu protesters to give a list of Muslim children studying there. The request was refused.

‘‘Things are better now, but I am happier that my daughter continues to learn among Muslims,’’ Ghazni said. ‘‘There is safety in being with your own. Had a mob attacked her old school, they wouldn’t have been able to protect her.’’

Of particular concern now is what the election results mean for the future of India’s declared secular status. Liberal commentators are debating whether the BJP will follow Modi’s strategy of Hindu revivalism in the 10 states that go to the polls next year and in general elections scheduled for 2004.

** ‘‘This is only the beginning,’’ said Haresh Bhatt, the BJP candidate from Godhra and a former member of the World Hindu Council, whose aim is to make India a Hindu state.

‘‘Don’t forget Gujarat is the laboratory of Hindutava,’’ he said. ‘‘The experiment will be done in phases - the first phase has been successful and now we move onto the next phase.’’ **

this is so sad and un-Indianthat this girl has to do that to feel safe. you stupid religious fundos! look at what you've done! remember Mahathma Ghandhi said "eye for an eye ends up making both blind" and we have to learn this the hard way? again?

Between this and the Iraq and N.Korea news, this is one heavy heart today.

May Allah(SWT) gives strength to Muslims of Gujarat and in India, above all. Ameen.

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and to us Hindus too. we'll take strength from whichever God.

Yes terrorizing and killing in the name of religion is a heinous crime that needs the severest of punishment, which stated a few months before the partition in 1947 and hasn't stopped ever since. It is a shame that a Gandhi's multicultural and tolerant India is still a far dream and there are frequent set backs. India indeed has seen a lot of agony in the form of continuing communal riots since independence, the killing of over 3000 Sikh's mostly in Delhi after Indira's murder, the exodus of lacs of Kashmiri pandits after hundreds of killings and daily terrorizing , the destruction of Barbari Masjid and the riots after that in places like Mumbai that never had before, the continuing killings of Sikh's, hindus and Muslims in the valley, the killing of Hindu's and Muslims in Gujarat and the terror that stalks Kashmir and Gujarat to date. Well as the two largest communities of India, Muslims and Hindu's we ought to ask our religious leaders and politicians as to where do they intend to take us for their wretched aims and does this need human sacrifice to succeed. Seems like the African man eating tribes of yore were more honest about their intentions than these guys. I am deliberately omitting commenting on the contribution of our neighbors to this and their own sorry situation that seems no better. They ought to figure out their future for themselves. All that is needed is a sense of what's right and what's wrong.

Truth is like Science, it is universally applicable and in the same situation it gives the same answers.

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Yes terrorizing and killing in the name of religion is a heinous crime that needs the severest of punishment, which stated a few months before the partition in 1947 and hasn't stopped ever since. It is a shame that a Gandhi's multicultural and tolerant India is still a far dream and there are frequent set backs. India indeed has seen a lot of agony in the form of continuing communal riots since independence, the killing of over 3000 Sikh's mostly in Delhi after Indira's murder, the exodus of lacs of Kashmiri pandits after hundreds of killings and daily terrorizing , the destruction of Barbari Masjid and the riots after that in places like Mumbai that never had before, the continuing killings of Sikh's, hindus and Muslims in the valley, the killing of Hindu's and Muslims in Gujarat and the terror that stalks Kashmir and Gujarat to date. Well as the two largest communities of India, Muslims and Hindu's we ought to ask our religious leaders and politicians as to where do they intend to take us for their wretched aims and does this need human sacrifice to succeed. Seems like the African man eating tribes of yore were more honest about their intentions than these guys. *
I am deliberately omitting commenting on the contribution of our neighbors to this and their own sorry situation that seems no better. **They ought to figure out their future for themselves. All that is needed is a sense of what's right and what's wrong.

Truth is like Science, it is universally applicable and in the same situation it gives the same answers.
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HAHAHA...the ISI keera seems to always lurk around indian arse....

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and to us Hindus too. we'll take strength from whichever God.
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God? I thought your strength came from 'Desai Cola' :)

The ISI excuse can be brought up for anything hapening in india. But most of the problems in india are self-created of the indian gov. Yes ISI used to be a part of it earlier, in the zia regime. But it is weakened since a long time now, and recent governments have made a sincere effort to curb the terror they produced, esp. the musharraf gov. Its the hindu nationalist gov. It shd be replaced by a moderate gov - which posseses a Gandhi-like attitude rather then that of a hindu fanatic.

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God? I thought your strength came from 'Desai Cola' :)
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b2b you live down river .

We should ask all the Indian Muslims to come to Pakistan since we care about them so much.

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We should ask all the Indian Muslims to come to Pakistan since we care about them so much.
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Welcome to the great democracy and secular state of India.... LOL...

indian muslims have nothing to do with pakistan they just share the faith
not the land. they have been living there thousands year they will be
living there side by side forever it their soil .

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Welcome to the great democracy and secular state of India.... LOL...
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so you finally gave up empty arguements and took refuge in India? good for you! now may be you can start 'e' and proceed gradually thru getting d u c a t e d!

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so you finally gave up empty arguements and took refuge in India? good for you! now may be you can start 'e' and proceed gradually thru getting d u c a t e d!
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What's wrong with the world's "largest" illiterate democracy?

you lost that one even before you started. what's wrong with your statement is that it is wrong.

largest democracy - yes. illiterate - no. you've been madaraasawed, haven't you?

heheheh democracy.. LOL....... yeah sure....... what version...... LOL

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If having tens of thousands of madrassas producing lacs of social misfits every year is education than India is better illiterate
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Where isn't religious extremism? Is it not in India, or Europe, or North America? You have the hindu fanatics, you had the nazis, and you still have the christian funadamentalists and the zionsists. In the Gujarat riots, 2000 Muslims were slaughtered and laks displaced and injured. Dont preach the pakistanis on madrassas. Terrorism, wherever it hapens or whoever does it, is wrong. Its a shame but we have to live with it, and play our part in doing as much as we can do to curb it.

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While I sympathize with the legal visa holders' inconvenience with the registration, I am very disappointed that there is a such a loud hue and cry from the illegals. The very fact that the pakistani offical will acknowledge 50% of pakistanis are illegal is enough reason to make the registration requirement justified.
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Its not just the registration system, but moreso the way in which it is being carried out. Some are just directly being deported. Even in such a process, the gov. should atleast be humane while carrying out the process. PLUS there are illegal immigrants in US from almost every country in the world, but the list contains mostly Muslim countries. There is no consistency in the law. They remove these flaws and there wont be any hue and cry.

may be you should look at the map

http://www.freedomhouse.org/pdf_docs/research/freeworld/2001/map2001.pdf

hahah..the irony is that the majority of people in india would not be able to construe this map…hail the world’s “largest” illiterate democracy…hahaha