Indian hijacking of Pakistan's heritage

Indian hijacking of Pakistan’s history

Although both India and Pakistan were created at the same time out
of British Raj, Indians desperately try to steal Pakistan’s heritage,
particularly the Indus Valley Civilization! This Indian hegemonic
agenda is based on myths and false propaganda for religious and
nationalistic imperialism. Also, there are a few Pakistanis,
particularly Islamists, who narrow-mindedly deny/ignore Pakistan’s
glorious pre-Islamic past. Harappans were certainly the ancestors of
most Pakistanis, who absorbed or adopted the many waves of
invaders/migrants through out the centuries.

Indus Valley Civilization was mostly based in the region of Pakistan.
The names used for the Civilization are “Indus Valley” or “Harappan”,
both in Pakistan. The most largest and important cities are Harappa
and Mohenjodaro, both in Pakistan. Even in the case of Hakra/Ghaggar
river (extinct), a tributary of Indus itself, it has far more mature
Harappan sites on the Pakistani side than on the Indian side. The
proto-Indus site is also located at Mehrgarh in Pakistan. Indus Valley
Civilization, at its peak, had colonies stretching from Turkmenistan
to northern Maharashta, and from southeast Iran to western UP. About
85% of Indians (i.e. outside of northwest India) have nothing to do
with Indus Valley Civilization, where their ancestors were nomadic
forest-dwelling hunters and gatherers at a time period when the
sophisticated Indus Valley Civilization was flourishing.

Indus/Harappan religion was not Hinduism. Not a single Hindu temple,
idol or statue has been found at excavated Indus sites. Harappans
buried their dead, ate beef, and were not Vedic/Aryan. “Great Bath”
was common in many civilizations (Graeco-Roman, Mesopotamian, etc.).
The “deity” of horned head-dress looks nothing like Hinduism’s Shiva
and similar deities were common in other civilizations (like the
Celtic Cernunnos). Bull seemed to be sacred among Harappans (like
Mesopotamians, Minoans, etc.) but not the cow.

A people may evolve by adopting new ideas/beliefs, change with
political environment, and racially get mixed with other peoples, but
that does not erase their history. Pakistan – the land and people of
Indus directly inherits one of the greatest ancient civilizations of
the world, just the same way present-day Iraq, Greece, and Egypt (all
three countries also recently created) inherits their own great
ancient civilizations. It is irrelevant that the descendents of
Harappans are now mostly Muslims (Pakistanis)! Descendents of ancient
Mesopotamians and Egyptians are also now mostly Muslims, descendents
of ancients Greeks and Romans are now mostly Christians. It is time
that all Pakistanis take pride in their past, and protect it from
thievery of other countries like India.

Is this what they taught you at your madrasssah ?

Pakistan4ever,

Thanks for sharing information..

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Is this what they taught you at your madrasssah ?
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maybe the madraassas done some research with the UNESCO to discover upon the realities. hou can a country which was born on the premise on a younger religion claim the spoils of a much broader civilization?.

do pakistanis accept that mohejodaro and the taxilas buddhas are part of its history?
or they have to be blown up like the bamiyan buddhas?

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do pakistanis accept that mohejodaro and the taxilas buddhas are part of its history?
or they have to be blown up like the bamiyan buddhas?

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Yes of course we do, but we also point out the differences between that existed between the Indus valley and Gangetic plains and how these lands existed as separate entities. Read Aitzaz Ahsan or Dr. Safdar Mehmood's works on the subject.

^Are you talking about Aitzaz Ahsan's "The Indua Saga And The Making Of Pakistan". I've read this book and it's highly recommendable for all Pakistanis...

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^Are you talking about Aitzaz Ahsan's "The Indua Saga And The Making Of Pakistan". I've read this book and it's highly recommendable for all Pakistanis...

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The very same. Although he illustrates his point of view almost entirely with Punjabi poetry, I've heard that he has spent time learning about Pashto, Sindhi and Balochi poetry and will use verses from all the lagnuages of Pakistan to illustrate his point in the coming editions.

Again, we need to make up our minds, as to who stole whose heritage. The cyber-mollahs are saying we stole India's hertiage (basant and all), some people are saying India stole ours? India thinks we stole theirs? Whats going on?

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I've heard that he has spent time learning about Pashto, Sindhi and Balochi poetry and will use verses from all the lagnuages of Pakistan to illustrate his point in the coming editions.
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I'm all agog now. When is the next edition coming out?

Because Hindoos and Muslims used to live together b4 partition, basant is common across two religions. However how can you account for Hindoo Rajputs or Hindoo Jats? I thought all Rajputs and Jats are muslims.

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Because Hindoos and Muslims used to live together b4 partition, basant is common across two religions. However how can you account for Hindoo Rajputs or Hindoo Jats? I thought all Rajputs and Jats are muslims.
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AND I THOUGHT that rajputs and jatts were only hindu sub castes

One problem is perhaps that historians in general may consider the whole south asian landmass to be India before 1947. Another is that non-Muslim history may not be considered Pakistani history by some Pakistanis. Also even though a small portion of Indians may have lived in the Indus Civilization, that is not grounds for the Indus civ not to be part of Indian history. One justification for history that took place in Pakistan being Indian also is that migrants came from Pakistan to India. I don't think that's a good reason but maybe someone else in this discussion will.

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AND I THOUGHT that rajputs and jatts were only hindu sub castes
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I assume u r joking. Dont forget the sikh jatts and rajputs. Jatts r generally from northwest india and east pakistan. This is not counting Kashmirl Rajputs r probaby spread throughout northern India though more towards the northwest and eastern pak again not countin Kashmir and perhaps another state. Though I have heard of one Rajput sub-caste in south India.

Re: Indian hijacking of Pakistan's heritage

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Indus/Harappan religion was not Hinduism.
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1 - I think you need to find out what the definition of Hindiusm is - it's not a homogenous religion like Islam
2 - the Harappan religion was not Islam either.

i dont know why u people even care about such matters, i thought this was a culture thing bout sharin out culture, not arguing about it. I seriously dont understand why people make such a fuss about what happend a gzillion years back, not that its gonna get u anywhere today or on judgement day. in conclusion: GET A LIFE, AND STOP WORRY ABOUT HINDUISM, unless ur wanna learn about it with an openmind.

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Calling Indus valley civilizations Pakistani is like saying that Prophet Mohammad was a Saudi. Jazakallah.
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are you on crack?

Last time I checked India has been around way before the British ever took over.

India got split into 3 countries ..Pakistan, Bangladesh and India.

We're all Indian ..get over it already!

India was created by the British colonialists who after invading/annexing the various nations/kingdoms of South Asia consolidated them into a single administrative unit naming it India. No country with such name or size existed prior to the advent of British.