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Is India’s outsourcing honeymoon over?

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Surprise! India’s reign as the world’s “Outsourcing King” may be slipping, even with its rock-bottom call center costs. A new report from market research firm Gartner, Inc. warns that a labor crunch and rising wages could erode as much as 45 percent of India’s market share by 2007. Indian industry watchers acknowledge that the country’s outsourcing industry – its golden goose of the moment – is indeed facing a “serious” problem. In an interview with CNN/Money from New Delhi, Kiran Karnick, president of the National Association of Software and Service companies (NASSCOM), said he’s concerned that these challenges could stymie India’s strong double-digit growth in outsourcing services. NASSCOM is the trade body representing India’s information technology (IT) software and services industry. More importantly, the Gartner report cautions that a host of emerging countries such as the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam and Eastern European nations including Hungary and Poland, are also starting to challenge India’s leadership in offshore business process outsourcing (BPO.) Many U.S. and international companies maintain that outsourcing business processes such as customer service call centers, administrative and accounting processes to low-cost and low-wage countries like India helps to keep down their own cost of doing business.

Analysts say India’s “go to” status as a premier outsourcing destination is a function of the country’s vast pool of about 2.5 million mostly English-speaking graduates that are ready to enter the workforce annually. But India can’t afford to rest on its laurels, said Sujay Chohan, one of the authors of the Gartner report and vice president and research director of offshore business process outsourcing with Gartner in New Delhi. Unless India devises a long-term roadmap to improve infrastructure and consistently grow its skilled labor force, he said India will see some of its offshore BPO clients shift business elsewhere. “Although India’s infrastructure is improving, it is not keeping pace with the rapid growth of the industry,” the report said. The Gartner report pointed out that while no single nation yet poses a direct threat to India as a high-quality/low-cost location, over the past two years, more than 50 other countries have emerged that together could pose a viable challenge to India in the months ahead. Gartner estimates that India’s current 85 percent ownership of the BPO market share could dwindle to about 45 percent by 2007. In dollar terms, that would be a significant blow to India, Chohan said. In 2004 India raked in more than $2 billion of an estimated $3 billion global offshore BPO market with more than 250,000 workers. He estimates that the worldwide offshore BPO market will grow to about $24 billion by 2007 of which India will earn about $13.8 billion.

Rising labor costs

Given that India’s been doubling its outsourcing operations every year for the past four years, Chohan said he’s not too surprised by the current imbalance in the labor demand-supply equation as well as the onset of wage inflation and high levels of attrition. “Four years ago, a typical call center employee would have earned between 5,000 to 6,000 rupees ($114- $136) a month. Now it may be up to between 7,000 to 9,000 rupees ($159 - $204) a month,” he said. “The rise in labor costs isn’t significant yet. What’s more important is that these increases so far have not been passed on to clients in the U.S.” But if these costs continue to escalate, he predicts that Indian outsourcing firms will take a hit to their bottom line and eventually start to pass along the increases to their international clients. Chohan said India could learn from Ireland’s mistakes more than a decade earlier. “This is exactly what happened in Ireland in the 1990s,” said Chohan. “As a result, companies that were outsourcing to Ireland began to look elsewhere and discovered India for the lower-level work,” adding that Ireland today still attracts what’s considered to be “high-value” outsourcing such as R&D and software development. Chohan isn’t worried about India losing it lead in IT outsourcing. “India dominates now and will continue to do so in the future because of the sheer scale of skills in the country at low costs. The only exception is China which has become very visible in this space within the last six months.”

Moving beyond call centers

Ashank Desai, chairman of Mumbai-based Mastek, said one way for Indian companies to maintain their competitive advantage and ensure their international clientele is to upgrade their services by offering more sophisticated back office functions in addition to the basic call center services. Mastek is a provider of offshore IT and BPO outsourcing services. The company logged annual sales of $130 million in 2004. "At Mastek we’re already looking into merging BPO and IT services so that our clients get double the advantage,’ Desai said. He gave an example, “We can reconfigure IT used for processing insurance claims to make it more efficient and then process these claims more efficiently for our customers.” In order to emerge as truly global players and undercut the competition, Chohan said Indian outsourcing companies should also think about expanding their brand globally by setting up delivery centers outside of India. Indian vendors depend too much on the U.S. market. India has to make inroads into non-English speaking markets as well, “similar to what Ireland has done to successfully service the European market,” he said.

Re: Is India’s outsourcing honeymoon over?

You are right Reza. Looks like the honeymoon is over. In fact today on PBS on Wide Angle there is a special on the short lived honeymoon. Catch the show if you can.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/shows/india2/

Finding the Outsource of Life

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4818754

Re: Is India's outsourcing honeymoon over?

who knows, but i'm sure you can hear plenty of expert analysis on CNN's week-long special programming dedicated to all things India called "Eye on India" starting next week.

i'm sure Reza would have already had this marked in his calendar 6 months ago, but i hope this is useful info for others that are interested.

Re: Is India's outsourcing honeymoon over?

They know not and they understand not...read the current McKinsey Quarterly. Entire edition dedicated to India. amazing prognosis...

Re: Is India's outsourcing honeymoon over?

well this is old news, most of those firms have moved to pakistan.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/09/12/DI2005091201361.html

Re: Is India's outsourcing honeymoon over?

wats that for, i can post 200 articles saying that its over and finished.

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May be the pace of outsourcing to India slows down but the actual amount will continue to climb, not regress. Here is a strong statement in proof of that:

Microsoft to double Indian centres staff

In addition to that a number of Indian companies are making significant headway in the ‘products’ business - Oracle buying iFlex last month for example.

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//well this is old news, most of those firms have moved to pakistan.//

Good joke buddy...

I needed that laugh !!!

Re: Is India's outsourcing honeymoon over?

No the honeymoon is not over, coz there never was one.

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“China. We’re not India.”

An insider perspective on the three key reasons software vendors consider China an offshore destination.

David Scott Lewis [IT E-Strategies, Inc.] | POSTED: 02.16.06 @07:00
Since the publication of my last column, I have been in a temp exec position with a leading Beijing-based IT outsourcing firm, arguably the second largest in China focused on the North American market. Being on the “inside” has provided me with a lot of fodder for my AO column, e-newsletter, blog, and Sand Hill Group weekly blog (forthcoming), although it’s important to differentiate what is unique to a particular company versus what can be generalized across the board.

http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=13960_0_4_0_C

For my first insider column, I’m going to take a look at the three key reasons software vendors consider China an offshore destination. But there’s something implicit in this last sentence: Few end users in North America or Europe are willing to consider China unless the China-based firm has a significant footprint in the States. Some do, such as Worksoft, Achievo, Augmentum, Symbio and Freeborders. Most, however, do not. Bleum and I.T. United have bridged this gap with little more than a sales office in the States, but they also have Western founders and top management; Bleum also has been assessed CMM Level 5 (as has Bamboo, another Western-focused firm), a rarity in China. Even the largest IT outsourcing firms in China have had very little success in the States, the notable exception (and the only exception) being Neusoft. However, in Neusoft’s case, the head of its U.S.-facing operations spent over 20 years at IBM in North America, and it’s been the smartest of the bunch at leveraging its capabilities for penetration into the North American market.

Re: Is India's outsourcing honeymoon over?

it's much simpler than that.

China - communists, threat to US economy, protectionist & human rights abusers

India - democracy, big market for US goods & services, open market & people focussed

Result = India wins with US

Jai Hind

PS: If labor availability ever becomes a short supply in India, we can always make a new batch in a hurry. We have over 1billion proofs for that

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This is a very interesting phenomenon indeed.
I think you will find that the very basics that make outsourcing lucrative, also limit its potential for long term growth. Outsourcing was created by the western need to exploit low cost educated labor in developing economies. It’s important to understand the basics that make outsourcing a lucrative move for a company.

Unlike the developments in the Chinese economy outsourcing is not a fundamental economic shift, it provides low cost services and intellectual property not manufactured goods. Chinese economic growth is powered by massive capital cost intensive manufacturing processes, this manufacturing is not easily portable and is fixed for the foreseeable future. Contrary to this, the minute Western companies see labor market inflation in India they will move work to other developing economies with large quantities of English speaking, educated workers. It may be Malaysia, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Eastern Europe, Pakistan, South Africa or Indonesia. The list is endless, labor is an infinite resource. The essentials are that outsourcing is and was lucrative because it allowed Western Companies to move low value, non-location specific work to low cost labor markets, the problem for India is the same still holds true. It doesn’t mean that outsourcing can’t yet be very lucrative to India, it just limits the benefits of it.

I've seen the results at my own job. We have low value, time intensive work (i.e. pipeline design for heavy oil upgrading facilities) that we were sending to India for completion. The work was outsourced through a large EPC (engineering procurement and construction) company. Due to work quality, completion time and cost issues in the Indian office, we've decided to shift the work to another office of the same company. I believe it will now be completed in Indonesia or Poland though the details aren’t finalized.

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Don't make the mistake of thinking outsourcing is limited to IT or BPO jobs. A number of companies have started employing HUNDREDS of lawyers in India! Microsoft has a huge team of lawyers in India dedicated to patent research. GE has a whole bunch of lawyers too.

With the political climate and cooperation on the up, this trend will only get more intense.

And yes, we'll start seeing American goods flooding India - guess what! American companies will manufacture them in Korea and China to market in India.

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Curmedgeon Man, your "patriotism" reeks of saambur :)

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^ ofcourse but the patriotism is well placed too. Thousands of years of literature, culture, science, arts and were briefly interrupted for a few centuries of slavery but now things are going the right way. And best part of it is that it is led by the people not some sort of dictatorial regime or communistic gang of forty.

Whatever it reeks of, you can ignore, jeer, attack but as Babuji Gandhi said, YOU WILL SURRENDER to the wisodm of it all when you learn from it.

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I dunno abt threat to Outsourcing...
one thing is sure..
indian engineers are getting 2-3 jobs..
makin hell lot of impact..
they r from little colleges from south india.. Not from big IIT's.

Re: Is India's outsourcing honeymoon over?

^ those from 'little' colleges get the 'little' jobs such as software programming, sys.admin and call center stuff. Now a bunch of them are being hired for 'quality assurance' work! The IIT alumni are ofcourse hired into senior level jobs - architecture, management, research etc. The IIM and a few other business school grads (ahem, ahem) are hired straight into management and strategy levels, leading to leadership slots within 10 years!

In other words, you're right - companies in the west are learning a lot about different qualities of education available in India and are finding applicability for all quality levels!

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http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/mar2006/gb20060322_649013.htm?campaign_id=search

Only about 10% of Indian students with generalist degrees in the arts and humanities is suitable, compared with 25% of all Indian engineering graduates. The graduates’ different levels of skill reflect the varying quality among India’s universities. The best are superb, but many of the rest are indifferent, and the best graduates from the top schools often emigrate.

India, on the other hand, needs more graduates with degrees that employers want, like engineering, rather than generalist degrees. Both countries can also call on the skills of former countrymen living around the world with their rich reserves of management talent. None of this should alarm white-collar workers in developed economies. Our study of the emerging global labor market found that only 11% of all service jobs could, in theory, be performed remotely, and that companies plan to offshore only 1.2% of service jobs now performed in high wage countries by 2008.

Though these are significant numbers, offshoring is a relatively small phenomenon in the scheme of total employment in any occupation, likely to have limited impact on average employment and wages in mature economies.

Re: Is India's outsourcing honeymoon over?

not yet but may be soon.all these so called big IT companies have practice of keeping resources on bench untill he gets some client project in some cases as long as 1-2 yrsthereby destroying the ppls carrer