Indian doctors not given visa to Pakistan

Pakistani government should have given visas for Indian doctors.

Indian doctors not given visa

By Our Staff Reporter

http://www.dawn.com/2005/10/17/nat41.htm

LAHORE, Oct 16: The government has not yet issued visas to several Indian doctors who want to take part in relief activities here. The doctors who have formed their teams for an organized relief work are waiting for the clearance of the Pakistani government, PPP MNA Chaudhry Manzoor says while quoting a message received here from New Delhi.

He says he has also contacted the Foreign Office in Islamabad to resolve the issue as officials there have promised to decide the matter on Monday (today).

He has appealed to President Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz to direct the authorities to take a positive decision in the wake of the misery being faced by the quake victims.

Meanwhile, the Kasur-to-Kashmir caravan being organized by the MNA will leave the border city Kasur at 9am on Tuesday and reach the Qadhafi Stadium, Lahore, by 11am where Indian MPs being led by Nirmala Deshpande, A.R. Shaheen and Hannan Mulla will join it.

The Indian team, carrying a consignment of relief goods, will cross Wagah border earlier Tuesday morning.

Re: Indian doctors not given visa to Pakistan

Better to keep these RAW agents "OUT"
If Pakistan is not willing to accept Indian hekp, I don't understand why Indians are dieing to "help" Pakistan. They have nurtured enmity for the last 58 years and still doing the same, but suddenly they are dieing to "help" Pakistan............

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lol, Indian doctors trying to volunteer for relief effort are RAW agents?

your opinion is totally irrelevant to this matter. it's easy for you to pridefully talk big from behind your keyboard in your intact home with your intact limbs.

but i'm sure the thousands upon thousands of injured victims suffering from all manner of ailment, disease, gangrene, broken bones, etc. just might have a different opinion.

they need doctors. there is an inadequate supply of doctors. it's not that hard to understand. why would you want these victims to suffer more than they need to?

Re: Indian doctors not given visa to Pakistan

^^ There is nothing “raw” about these good doctors from Bharat.

However the situation on the ground is that we have enough doctors. Logistics for Medical supplies and food are the main issues.

This shouldn’t stop Bharati doctors to pay a visit to Jammu Kashmir area. People there are truly suffering. Good thing is that they don’t have to wait for a visa. Here is the latest thanks to BBC.

BBC NEWS
Villagers’ endless wait for relief

	By Soutik Biswas

BBC News, Tangdar, Indian-administered Kashmir

Every morning, Abdul Gafoor buries his grief and treks three hours along a treacherous mountain path to a relief camp in Tangdar in Indian-administered Kashmir, in the hope of getting a roof for his home.

The 8 October earthquake destroyed his house and killed his three-year-old daughter, six-month-old son and 18-year-old sister.

Mr Gafoor has not simply found time to grieve as he sets out from his devastated village of Bahadurkot to the army camp in Chhamkot to search for a roof to protect his wife and parents after spending freezing nights out in the open.

The people here are angry with the local administration - the army is still their only lifeline

Sheikh Shah Nawaz
Relief volunteer
He waits all day in the cold, hoping for a tent - so far there has been no tent in sight, though he’s managed to get four blankets and some tea.

"I haven’t slept for the past week. I’ve lost my house, children and have no utensils, water, fire, nothing at all.

“There’s no hope and dignity left in my life. I am just asking for a tent,” he says.

Angry

Some distance away, civilian volunteers work feverishly to distribute provisions including lanterns, torches, oil, rice, blankets and utensils to a horde of exhausted people from the upper reaches of Tangdar who wait forlornly for help.

There is a minister camping in the area hemmed in by breathtaking snow-capped ridges, but very little government aid is in sight.

“The people here are angry with the local administration. The army is still their only lifeline. Shelter is still a major problem,” says a young relief volunteer Sheikh Shah Nawaz, who trekked to reach affected villages.

More than a week after the quake devastated a cluster of 42 villages nestling in the pine and fur-capped mountains of Tangdar, 45km (28 miles) away from Pakistan-administered Kashmir, the idyllic lives of its 52,000 local residents - mostly farmers and nomads - has been shattered.

A total of 250 villagers perished in the quake in Tangdar, one of the worst affected areas.

The Indian army also lost 22 soldiers. Things were so bad that the army had to run 78 helicopter sorties out of nine improvised helipads to evacuate 272 injured people to the nearest hospitals.

An estimated 30% of the stone-and-mud homes have been ground to dust. Another 35% have become dangerous and uninhabitable.

Neglected

The road link to Tithwal, the closest village to the Line of Control - the de facto border in the disputed region - is still blocked by land slips and its 2,500 villagers are still trudging miles in bone-chilling cold for hours to pick up whatever relief they can lay their hands on.

Tithwal was once a flourishing and bustling town on the old Silk Route - the 1919 census describes it as an ‘urban centre’- and since independence has been virtually next door to Pakistan.

Now it is in danger of being forgotten totally.

Away from much of the media spotlight, Tangdar still remains largely neglected by the relief givers - many are simply loathe to do the seven- to eight-hour back-breaking journey through rain and icy mountain roads to reach it.

For the first few days after the quake, there was no sign of the civil administration and civilian relief volunteers ignored the area in favour of the more accessible Uri where the media had camped in hordes.

The Indian army ran the only relief and rescue operation supplying food, water and airlifting and treating the injured.

When the relief brigade descended on Tangdar, they also brought with them shampoo, lipstick, soap, cotton saris and blouses.

“I need blankets, tents, warm clothes, hot food for the people. That is what we need most,” says a senior local army officer, Brigadier SS Jog.

Waiting for relief

Clearly, there isn’t enough of that yet - relief volunteers are hurling bags of rice from trucks to the angry, shivering survivors and speeding away.

So more than a week after the quake, five-year-old Salma has to trudge over rocks for two hours from Tithwal to Chamankot to pick up some relief. After waiting for two days she has not received any.

All day long, villagers are negotiating the avalanche-prone area - there are an estimated 73 sites prone to avalanche here - and risking lives for relief.

But the supplies are simply not enough and survivors of Tangdar are facing their worst winter ever.
Story from BBC NEWS:

Published: 2005/10/17 09:19:21 GMT

Re: Indian doctors not given visa to Pakistan

Many Pak citizens come to India for treatment…be aware that we turn them into RAW agents.

Re: Indian doctors not given visa to Pakistan

Nothing wrong with completing all formalities in normal course, a few doctors dont make all that much of a difference while slight slackness in visa issues at this turbulent time could cause much greater issues later on.
as emotional as we may get let’s not forget the bumpy relationship there is between India and Pakistan. if our very own pakistanis can act like this, read letter below from dawn today, how can we shun paranoia all at once…?

http://dawn.com/2005/10/17/letted.htm

WE are constantly hearing about how our people have come together during this tragic earthquake. PTV is emphasizing how our police and security personnel have done an excellent job regarding the collapse of the Margalla Towers.

As a resident of Margalla Towers for the last five years, and barely making it out alive with my wife and two small children, I would like to enlighten the readers about certain facts not mentioned so far.

Within one hour of the collapse of the towers, the entrance to the main reception area (which leads to all the apartments) was sealed off by the Islamabad police. Not even the residents were allowed to go inside the building.

We were told that this was being done to protect our belongings from the thousands of potential looters, rescuers and emergency personnel which had gathered outside the collapsed building.

The next evening after a lot of difficulty, a handful of residents were allowed to enter the building to collect a few personal belongings. Much to our horror, our main apartment doors had been smashed in.

Upon entering, it was obvious that our nightmare had become a reality. Our cupboards and drawers had been broken into, and all jewellery and cash had been taken. This was a systematic operation.

Whosoever was behind this had a lot of time since dozens and dozens of apartments were robbed and all valuables gone.

While some residents were buried alive in rubble, systematic looting of sealed apartments was simultaneoushy being carried out upstairs in the remaining half of the building.

It’s too late to play the blame game. But it shows that while we all show solidarity towards the victims and do all to help, we at the same time fall to the level of stealing from the dead during Ramazan.

The only answer for these despicable acts worth mentioning from the police was: “Why do people expect us to be any different from the looters of New Orleans?”.

My answer to the police was that in New Orleans the looters were from within their own community. They were not from the law-enforcement agencies.

RAJA OMAR KAMAL
Islamabad

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If Pak don't want help from Indian doctors so get on with it....many Indian villages can use doctors...

I don't know why God made sick politicians and put them in all countries! people are suffering everywhere for health care ...look at this:

India villages don't have enough doctors
Pakistan eq victims don't have enough doctors
Amreeka ...nobody can afford doctors and doctors cannot afford insurance
Africa...people can't get medicine if UN doesn't air drop them after epidemic after epidemic

...in all this, politicians are sitting there giving speeches and trying this type of headline maneuvres!