Indian air force 'lacks planes'

Indian air force ‘lacks planes’
By Nagendar Sharma
BBC News, Delhi

Only half the fleet is available at any given time
Nearly 20% of Indian Air Force (IAF) pilots are doing desk jobs because of a shortage of planes, the BBC has learnt.

Classified documents seen by the BBC show that in all about a third of the IAF’s 2,500 pilots have been assigned ground and administrative duties.

Of these, 450 fit and trained pilots simply lack planes, the documents say.

Growing numbers of IAF pilots have been refused permission to quit in recent months. The Indian Air Force had “no comment” on the BBC’s findings.

The IAF has about 790 aircraft in total, including 340 fighter planes.

Only half the fleet is available at any given time while the rest are being serviced, the documents show.

By 2010 the air forces’ transport fleet will be reduced by nearly 40%.

The IAF, which currently has 34 squadrons, plans to reduce that number to 28 by 2013.

Poor utilisation

Some of the pilots put on ground and administrative jobs by the force spoke to the BBC.

They said the jobs they had been given contradicted claims by senior officials that pilots who wanted to leave the IAF could not do so as it would create a shortage of pilots.

“Whatever the authorities might say, the fact is that the air force is overstaffed in terms of pilots,” one of the pilots, who has served in the IAF for 15 years, told the BBC.

This was despite the IAF spending millions of rupees on pilot training, he said.

Another serving pilot with more than a decade of service said: "In every air force station, you would find fully competent and medically fit pilots posted to various ground administrative jobs.

“The average utilisation rate of pilots in terms of flying hours per month is very low, as much as five to six hours a month,” he added.

Earlier this year, the chief of the Indian Air Force told the BBC he was aware that some pilots wanted to leave his force, although he said the numbers were much lower than reported.

Air Chief Marshal SP Tyagi put it down to India’s booming civil aviation industry and the lucrative salaries being offered by commercial airlines.

The air chief marshal said he did not begrudge the high salaries being offered to his pilots by private airlines. But he said he could not release pilots unless they were not required by the IAF.

sad state of IAF, they have no more planes to keep pilots busy, but atleast they are safe on ground instead flying migs that has habbit of going down.

wanna be super power need to address this I guess.

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India has the typical 3rd world mentality…

that in order to be strong militarily you need to have lots of weapons…

that means having over 800-900 planes, 3000-4000 tanks, etc…

but what they fail to realize is that having such a massive number of tanks and planes means that the quality of these machines degrade…

Sun Tzu said, “If you protect everything, you protect nothing”

And if you make an analogy to India, having such a massive number of tanks and planes means you are degrading your fighting quality…

There is no way that India has the skill or the capability to maintain all these planes and tanks to 100% full efficency…

Pakistan has gone on a different approach

It has a Tank force of 2,500 and a Air Force that probably wont cross the 350-400 threshold

This means that pakistan can concentrate its man power on maintaining a small number of equipement rather than stretching it…

So overall, Pakistan has Quality while India has quantity.

While Quantity may be useful in asymmetric warfare, but in symmetric warfare, quality always win over quantity

Just ask the arabs in their wars with Israel

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The Indian mentality is to get license to the technology to build it as well.

http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=298139&sid=NAT

Moscow, May 26: India will sign a defence deal with Russia within a fortnight under which 18 Sukhoi-30K fighter jets it had purchased earlier from Moscow will be exchanged for the latest su-30 MKI multi-role war planes.
A spokesperson of Irkut Corporation, the manufacturer of Sukhoi jets, said the trade-in contract would be signed within a fortnight. However, she declined to reveal the value of the deal.
As per the deal 18 su-30k jets with limited capabilities, supplied in late 1990s to the Indian Air Force (IAF) would be bought back by Russia and the similar number of latest fighters would be shipped into India.
Russian defence expert Konstantin Makiyenko said Irkut will supply 18 Su-30MKI jets specially tailored for the IAF, while older jets received from it will be upgraded for deployment in Belarus along the border with NATO.
**In 2004 Russia had completed the supply of 40 Su-30 fighters and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited has already launched the assembling of its latest version under licence for the production of 140 jets. **
The Sukhoi license deal provides the full transfer of technology to HAL, including indigenous production of thrust-vectoring engines, a privilege denied to China under a similar deal.

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what different approach???...if your country's economy or size was as much as that of india, i am sure you guys would have invested to acquire more number of weapons. If you take the ratio of no: of war planes to GDP(economy) of both the countries, then i think it's your own country that will be more than that of india. So different approach thing(and also quality) is irrelevant.

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Indians are pathetic... The PAF could over run them with a single jet!

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:rotfl: :rotfl:

Just think about it, you will know who is pathetic.

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guys, leave it scoring high points, stick to the topic.

why indian pilots are doing deskwork instead of flying?? and many want to leave for commercial air lines.

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it was just symbolic, though Pakistan lost last war in 1971, but IAF didnt manage to match the PAF.

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Quiz for ya all.... Which Airforce has the highest attrition rate in the world?

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India..

Besides just wait for domestic aviation sector of pakistan to grow. According to me it hasn't yet. Then you will higher attrition rates in your air force also.

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our military is a powerful institution and a respected institution....

pilots are not gonna run to fly commercial jets...

there is much prestige in the PAF

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Because India is filled with beurocrats who couldnt tell a pencil from a cruise missle?

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Well, Im guessing most of your pilots will crash before they even take off :slight_smile:

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I thought we were talking about Air force? What does your domestic crap have to do with anything? Your Air force is still garbage. 'Pak pilots have been trained to fly jets and to fight the enemy… They werent made to sit behind a desk and pray that some domestic airline will pity them enough to hire them. Our pilots are killers not pencil pushers… :wink:
Besides, Pakistan doesnt need as large a domestic market as India. India is huge, it needs a fleet of domestic airlines to ferry people around.

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^ yes my dear pakistan military is mighty, otherwise how would they enslave 140million people.:)

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Pen is mightier than the sword. Did u ever hear that. Take a look at how many planes pakistan have and how many India have. I mean military planes. India have employed more fighter pilots than required, but still have almost the double the no. of pilots than pakistan have.

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India don’t have domestic aviation blah blah blah, every nut and bolt is imported.

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Go and read some comparitive data. Don’t just beat around the bush.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1735912.stm
Abstract below:
**In straight numerical terms of population, economic might, military manpower and equipment it is almost meaningless to speak about an India-Pakistan balance. **
**“Imbalance” would be a more appropriate term since India dominates in every respect.


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and going by your logic Indian military is mightier , cos they have enslaved a greater no. of people about 1100 million. :cb:

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ok who told u that..:naraz:. yar.. indian military is running the show.even if they, then they would have done much better job that pakistan military junta.