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There is no such thing as DRDO its DODO.. 
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PM Singh's party was elected by Indian citizens in a free and fair election which rejected the radical BJP. Even then the leader of the Congress is a Roman Catholic.
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Even today if there were anti-muslim or anti-sikh riots in India then those two would not be able to do a thing simple because baniyas are not interested in solving.
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The last anti-Sikh riots in India took place in 1985 by the Congress party, which has PM Singh now, and Montek Singh Ahluwalia as the finance advisor. India also has a Sikh Army Chief of Staff.
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Your missiles by DRDO only Agni is under production the rest are failures.
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Well, even Prithvi and more recently the Brahmos are also successful projects of DRDO.
Well even Pakistan has also had a number of failed test-launches of its ballistic missiles. They were not reported in the media very much.
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Don't they test all these missiles in the labs before making an internation display?
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Yes. Extensive ground-tests are done, and only when they have performed satisfactorily there that they are test-launched.
I guess all criticisms about Agni’s failure are premature :
Centre gives new life to Agni-III
The Government has given the go-ahead to the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) scientists to conduct at least two tests of the Agni-III intermediate range ballistic missile in late August.
The nod for the two tests, likely to be conducted in quick succession at a gap of two or three days, came on Wednesday when the DRDO brass met Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee.
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SIngh cant do jack if the baniyas sitting in the congress order another 1985 on sikhs.He will loose his post before he even gives an order to stop it.The baniyas put gun onto another’s shoulder and shoot.That is why I said brahmindians and baniyas run the Indian economy.
That is very ignorat of you to say.The last anti-sikh riot took place in 2000 in Kashmir.US president Clinton has himself prepared a report on it.If you want I will bring it and post it here.Also check out www.khalistan.net for detailed attrocities and crimes agianst skihs and their massacres at different times.
Brahmos was suposed to be a SUPERSONIC CRUISE MISSILE, but since it was being developed by hindus (enemy of technology and education) it tured out finally as a SUBSONIC MISSILE.It is just a painted Russian missile.
Excuse me but the pakistani media is much less biased than Indian one such as HinduTimes of India.Each of Pakistan’s missile test has been successful and if it werent then Pakistan would not have an edge over Indian missile technology today as you already know.Pakistani missile system is declared to be the best in South Asia.
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TECHNOLOGY-INDIA:
Exposed by Dud Missile, Space Vehicle Crash
Praful Bidwai
**NEW DELHI, Jul 11 (IPS) - The failure in rapid succession, this week, of a satellite launcher and a new ballistic missile have shown up the technological and budgetary difficulties faced by India's space establishment -- civilian and military. **
Hours after the 50 million US dollar Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV) with a communications satellite on board was ordered to self-destruct, as it veered off course soon after lift-off on Monday, authorities at the civilian Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) said one of its four strap-on rocket motors had failed.
Like the GSLV, a new intermediate-range ballistic missile ‘Agni III’ that was launched by the secretive Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO), failed soon after lift-off on Sunday and **crashed into the Bay of Bengal, less than 1,000 km away from the launch site. **
The failure of the Agni III was in some ways more serious because it exposed the political limitations of India’s attempts, despite its ambitions, to pursue a military capability which is truly independent of the United States’ strategic calculations.
The surface-to-surface ballistic missile, designed to have a range of 3,500 km, took off in a “fairly smooth” manner at the designated hour. But “a series of mishaps” occurred in its later flight-path.
The Agni-III was originally meant to be tested in 2003-04. However, the test was postponed owing to technological snags. After their rectification, said reports, the missile’s test-flights were put off twice largely for “political reasons”, so as not to annoy the U.S.
Earlier this year, India decided to postpone the missile test out of fear that a test could hamper U.S. Congressional ratification of the India-U.S. nuclear cooperation deal. Publicly, the Indian defence minister cited “self-imposed restraint” to justify the postponement.
However, last month, Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. military, visited India and declared that “I do not see it (a test) as destabilising” or upsetting the regional “military balance” since “other countries in this region” (read, Pakistan) have also tested missiles.
Following this “facilitation” or clearance, and after indications of favourable votes in U.S. Congressional committees on the nuclear deal, India’s stand changed. A week later, the DRDO announced it was ready to launch Agni-III.
This is the ninth missile in the Agni series (named after the Sanskrit word for “fire”) to have been tested. The first was tested in May 1989. The last test (Agni-II) took place in August 2004.
** Unlike major powers like the U.S., Russia or China, which test the same missile 10 to 20 times before announcing that it is fully developed, India considers only three or four test-flights to be enough for both producing and inducting new missiles. (pure hindu baniya style) **
This is not first time that the test of an Agni series missile has failed. I**n the past, some tests of the shorter range Agni-II (range 2000 km-plus) also proved unsuccessful. **
But what makes the Agni-III’s failure significant is that unlike its shorter-range predecessors, it was a wholly new design, developed with the specific purpose of delivering a nuclear warhead.
** The Agni-I (range 700 to 800 km)** and Agni-II, were both products of India’s space programme married to its Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP), itself launched in 1983. Originally, their design used a satellite space-launching rocket (SLV-3) as the first stage, **on top of which was mounted the very-short range (150 to 250 km) liquid fuel-propelled Prithvi missile. **
The Agni-III’s brand new design, in which both stages use solid propellants, was to enable it to carry a payload weighing up to 1.5 tonnes and deliver it to targets as far away as Beijing and Shanghai. At present, India lacks an effective nuclear deterrent vis-à-vis China, based on a delivery vehicle carrying a nuclear warhead. Agni-III was meant to fill the void.
The causes of the failure of the test-flight are not clear. Scientists at the DRDO, which designed and built the missile, have been quoted as saying that many new technologies were tried in the Agni-III, including rocket motors, “fault-tolerant” avionics and launch control and guidance systems. Some of these could have failed. Other reports attribute the mishap to problems with the propellant.
** “The DRDO isn’t the world’s most reliable weapons R&D agency,”**(THI INDOOS WILL DENY THIS) Admiral L. Ramdas, a former chief of staff of the Indian Navy told IPS. “The Indian armed services’ experience with DRDO-made armaments has not been a happy one. **Their reliability is often extremely poor. We often used to joke that one had to pray they would somehow work in the battlefield.” **
The agency has a budget of Rs 30 billion (670 million dollars), which is of the same order as the annual expenditure of the department of atomic energy which is responsible for India’s civilian and military nuclear programmes.
This figure is extremely high "This fh for a poor country like India, with a low rank of 127 among 175 countries of the world in the United Nations Human Development Index," said Anil Chowdhary of the Coalition for Nuclear Disarmament and Peace. “Yet the DRDO has delivered very little.”
None of the three major projects assigned to the DRDO has been completed on time or without huge cost-overruns. These include the development of a Main Battle Tank (MBT), a nuclear power plant for a submarine, and an advanced Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), all involving expenditures of hundreds of millions of dollars.
** The MBT project was launched in 1974. But the tank has failed to meet service requirement tests**. It is reportedly too heavy and undependable to be used in combat operations. The Indian army prefers imported Russian tanks over the indigenous MBTs and says it will use the MBTs for training, not operations.
** The nuclear submarine project, launched 31 years ago, is not yet finished despite the almost one billion dollars spent on it. The LCA project, launched in 1983, is still in the doldrums: the DRDO has failed to develop the right engine for it. Even with an imported engine, the plane is unlikely to enter service anytime soon. (CLASSIC DRDO STUFF)**
“The primary reason for these shocking instances of underperformance and inability is lack of public accountability and oversight of the DRDO,” says M.V. Ramana, an independent technical expert attached to Centre for Interdisciplinary Studies in Environment and Development, Bangalore. “The DRDO, like all of India’s defence and nuclear service establishments, is not subject to normal processes of audit. It has used ‘security’ as a smokescreen or shield and refused to be held to account,” he adds.
The DRDO says it will try to rectify the faults in Agni-III. Whether or not and whenever that happens, India’s missile development programme, with future plans to develop an intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of 5,000 km or more, has suffered a major setback.
The underlined text is to take your words back, what more is that it is by an Indian source.You Indian’s do not share a common opinion therefore you run into copmlications.Make up your mind, I do not know if Praful Badawi is lying or YOU are about the tests:)
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Well, even Prithvi and more recently the Brahmos are also successful projects of DRDO.
More like a successful repaint of the Russian Moskit. Hence the name, Brah*Mos*.
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Well, if he gives the order to stop it, he cant be impeached by both the houses of Parliament.
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That is very ignorat of you to say.The last anti-sikh riot took place in 2000 in Kashmir.US president Clinton has himself prepared a report on it.If you want I will bring it and post it here.
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Actually, there is a thread on this forum, in which I have posted the report of Clinton's publishers withdrawing those stamements from his book.
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Brahmos was suposed to be a SUPERSONIC CRUISE MISSILE, but since it was being developed by hindus (enemy of technology and education) it tured out finally as a SUBSONIC MISSILE.It is just a painted Russian missile.
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Brahmos is the world's only supersonic cruise missile. It has Russian propulsion and Indian guidance mechanism.
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Each of Pakistan's missile test has been successful and if it werent then Pakistan would not have an edge over Indian missile technology today as you already know.Pakistani missile system is declared to be the best in South Asia.
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Well the GSLV sat launch and failure was shown on live TV. Indian media reported on the Agni and GSLV failure. Pakistan's missiles are largely based on tested Chinese and some North Korean missiles so like even if they fail, their media is unlikely to be told.
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Unlike major powers like the U.S., Russia or China, which test the same missile 10 to 20 times before announcing that it is fully developed, India considers only three or four test-flights to be enough for both producing and inducting new missiles.
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The Agni-III missile has 12 scheduled tests (Its next 2 tests will be next month).
Actually, P5 members were "allowed" to test missiles upto the late 90s. When India tested its Prithvi, Agni-I and Agni-II during the 90s and even early 2000s the whole world used to condemn it.
USA has conducted 1250 nuclear tests and Russia (USSR) has conducted 700 tests. India has conducted only 6. And I guess you very well know how the world reacted when India and Pakiatan made a handful of tests.
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Brahmindian Abhiman you have missed my post by a mile.
I will not stress it further since you are a hindu and it is in your nature to deny reality.However let me restate a few things.
Sikhs, shudras, muslims and christians are massacred everyday in India, parts like kashmir and bihar it is a routine.It is just that the Indian media does not like to report on such incidents because it is run by brahmindians.The incidents never get the attention of the biased indian media in other words.
Secondly what pot did you smoke when you said brahmos is the only cruise missile in the world?Are you saying that dirty india that is the home to AIDS infested maggots and 1/4 of the world's poorest living under $1 a day is the inventor of world's first supersonic cruise missile?Seriously when did you get ahead of developed first world countries like USA, Germany, Japan, France and England in terms of missile tech?
Let me tell you something that hindutimes will never tell you indians stole nuclear reactors from Canada, then you took body of a missile called "Moskit" from Russia, then you painted it with basanti hindu colours and put israeli avionis on it and you call it indigenoues?
The only weapon that India has noteworthy is the 10000000million AIDS infested parasites of your coming into pakistan via trains, cars and airplanes and they are the noteworthy biologicalweapons of mass destruction by India THOSE are indigenous.
Indian terrorist it is your hate for Pakistan that has brought you to this PAKISTANI forum not your love.Now go crawl back under the rock you came from:D
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Secondly what pot did you smoke when you said brahmos is the only cruise missile in the world?Are you saying that dirty india that is the home to AIDS infested maggots and 1/4 of the world's poorest living under $1 a day is the inventor of world's first supersonic cruise missile?
Well I have already stated that Brahmos has Russian propulsion and Indian guidance mechanisms, and it is the world's only supersonic cruise missile (I think you missed the word 'supersonic'). You may search google if you dont believe me.
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